I have a potential deal on the table that I am considering. I can get a 2011 370Z Touring, Automatic, GPS, Sport Package for $43,499 full mspr, deal price of $38,948. Should I get it?

 

yes

 

no

 

perhaps

 

auto? no

 

That's where I stopped reading.

I know there are a lot of good reasons not to get a manual (traffic, combined with injury, or the wife) but a 370Z is the quintessential mid-range sports car. Your opportunity would be squandered if you were to get an auto 370Z

 

What are your alternatives?

 

Given it is the end of the year, and it is a relatively low volume car. I would expect a better deal.

 

no~!

 

I drove an Infiniti G37 with the same 7 AT and I thought it was terrific

 

They're not saying that the 7AT is a bad transmission, just that it doesn't suit the nature of the car at all. If you need an automatic for commuting reasons, frankly, you're looking at the wrong car.

 

i think you can get it much cheaper than that. This car should sit for a good portion of the winter. I would think an extra 3-5k off since it's a leftover.

 

Doesn't look like dealers are getting trunk money just yet but at $38k they've gone into their holdback. Invoice on that car is right around $40k.

Unless you feel like you're going to be able to find that exact car three months from now, I say do what makes you happy.

 

no auto

 

Well Nissan made the AT vs MT argument more difficult with the 370Z in that the AT is faster (from what I understand anyway). If the OP is in NYC proper then there's even MORE reason for an AT. (Nothing more miserable than an MT while stuck in Holland Tunnel traffic on Varick Street during rush hour.)

But , the essence of a sports car is a FULLY manual tranny.

 

This is the thing I dont get, do people realize that opting for an auto to be 0.3 seconds faster to 60 is useless unelss you are competitively racing around a track. A manual is more engaging and fun.

I hate ferrari for deciding that because their auto can shift faster than a human, they shouldn't even offer a manual! Not everyone drives around a track racing against lambos!

 

auto? for a 370z? eww

 

I considered a manual trans, but it is not that important to me. Considering this would be a sunny weather treat, my intent is for the car to only get wet when I wash it. I understand that an auto is not a purist approach, but I don't need it to enjoy the car. I am also looking at a 2011 Porsche Cayman S with the PDK trans, with lots of extras. It is about $72,000 which is much more expensive than the Z, but there is nothing like a Porsche. What I am trying to figure out is if the Z is a close substitute and is about 50% of the price. I'm on the fence. I can easily afford the Porsche, but the value mizer in me is speaking loudly.

What do all of you think? Am I nuts?

 

Porsche purists would likely take offense to that inference.

If you get a nicely equipped Z Touring, you'll take some comfort that you have a very nice and capable Z. Not to mention having the additional $30k+ available for other use.

On the P-Car side, you'll have a Porsche: A car specifically designed from the ground up to provide the ultimate motoring pleasure for its driver.

That said, throw another $20k into the pot and get a Nissan GT-R.

 

Actually the GTR would only be another $15k and I had not thought of that. Great reco!

 

How about Bugatti Veyron?

 

That is rediculous. Not in any budget of anyone I know.

 

Yeah, that's why you have to let us know what your budget is, so we can give you better answers to your question.

You get what I'm saying?

 

$100k or less, preferrably a lot less as a car is a bad investment.

 

M5

Price of this was $97k.

You should sell your 4G TL and get this, if you are really loaded.

 

Personal taste. I'm not a fan of the BMW line.

 

I don't think of myself as being loaded. I do well and play hard, but I'm not loaded by New York Wall Street standards.

 

cool man

someone else will chime in for you

good luck

 

I appreciate it buddy. Good ideas though.

 

Are you opposed to going with used or CPO?

 

What is CPO? I would prefer new.

 

Certified Pre-Owned.

CTS-V coupe would be my choice with that budget.

 

Sorry for the dumb Q on the CPO. Thanks for the info.

I drove an 11 CTSv sedan and it felt too much like the old GM quality control issues. I prefer Jap or German quality. I considered an R8, but it seemed like too much $ for the car. I can justify the Z easily and make a case for the Cayman S at about 50% more, but a GTR would be the limit. The GTR would be an animal by any measure of reason, but it is a lot for a Nissan no matter how good it is. For that money I would rather get a Porsche.

 

Get the Cayman S. It's in your budget. Get a true drivers car and satisfy your needs for quality and prestige.

 

Believe it or not I like both cars as they each have unique qualities. I really like my TL better than my buddy's 535X that cost him $60k+. I bought it because it was destinctive and I thought it was cool. I could easily see myself enjoying either the Z or the Cayman S for years to come. My intent is to keep the car for 10 years or more as I might only put 7,500 miles on it per year.

The Z is a remarkable car even when compared to the Porsche which is a real compliment to Nissan.

 

2011+ Mercedes SLK? Only comes in auto trans.

BTW, IDK about the 370Z's cargo space, but the Cayman has very little storage space behind the seats or in the 2 tiny front and rear "trunks."

 

I don't give a rats ass how much faster an Auto shifts compared to a manual. I don't race on a track, I don't time my trips from work to home in tenths of a second. I do care about how fun a car is to drive and weigh that to be more important if it's a sport car. Manual shifting is where it's at when it comes to enjoying any sports car regardless of any tenths of a second increase in shifting. It takes more skill, knowledge and appreciation to be able to drive a manual. Something auto manufacturers are willing to give up just to play the numbers game which leads me to believe that they really don't care about what it means for enthusiasts who enjoy cruising around in their cars.

 

I don't see why someone can't enjoy an auto sports car as much as someone else would enjoy a manual sports car. It's personal preference. As long as they're happy, it doesn't matter that someone else doesn't understand or wouldn't be happy in the same situation.

 

That's fine, but when an auto manufacturer begins replacing their lineup of sports cars to only include auto transmissions because they want to increase sales and then claim it's because it's 0.2 second faster than a manual is a bunch of

If they continue to offer both I wouldn't have as much of a gripe, but manual transmissions seem to have been on the decline, esp in the states. This doesn't seem to be that much of an issue in Europe I think where even a grandmother doesn't mind driving a manual.

Honestly, I think most American's are just lazy and opt for the auto. IMHO it takes a lot more discipline and patience to drive a manual. That may sound elitist in a way, but with more american's wishing to watch tv, be on the telephone, or doing god knows what while they drive, i'm not surprised that manual transmissions are on the decline in the states.

 

The porsche has soul and character. It's obviously more expensive but it is just so much more.
The z is real nice but after a test drive it wa not the same.