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Old 08-28-2009, 01:35 PM
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Canon 7D - Confirmed? (YES)

There is quite a bit of talk about a 7D being released on September 1st. Many of the specs have been "confirmed" but pricing and sensor size are still being debated.

Summary of specs:
1 – 18mpix
2 – dual digic 4
3 – 8 fps
4 – 19 af points (cross type)
5 – iso 6400 max
6 – 63 metering zones
7 – 100% viewfinder
8 – "Smart" viewfinder ??
9 – electronic level
10 – 3 inch OLED
11 – video
12 – Live View

Link to image of box (Chinese box on Korean language page):
http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?i...c=asc&no=32110

Some people are saying it will be ~1900 and some say ~2700. Most are predicting 1.6 crop, but that's a lot of MP for such a small sensor. Some are thinking maybe 1.3 crop.

This may be my next camera.

Thread on POTN discussing:
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=744517
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Well if it is a cropped camera and it's called the 7D, it would certainly continue Canon's fine tradition of having randomly changing the logic behind their model numbering.

BTW, 63 metering zones? Do we really need that many for evaluative or center weighted metering to get a good read on what's in the frame?
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From looking at that, it's a 1.6 sensor at 18mp and that's not good... sorry
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It's not a box but a poster.
Canon will announce it sept 1st.

Also don't forget about the new efs lenses 15-85 3.5-5.6 is usm and 18-135 3.5-5.6


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It has an EF-S lens attached on the poster. The EF-S line do not work on the FF sensors correct?
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I'm very, very curious to see what this actually turns out to be.
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Originally Posted by SaaBaaDoo
It has an EF-S lens attached on the poster. The EF-S line do not work on the FF sensors correct?
Well, there is also talk that maybe, just maybe, Canon has learned something from Nikon and Sony and figured out a way to make it work. All just speculation, of course.

September 1 is only 4 days away, so we'll find out soon.

Edit: The first post should say September 1 announcement. Release date has not been confirmed.
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I MAYBE will replace my 40d with this.
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I wouldve liked it to be FF or at least APS-H
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Originally Posted by wndrlst
I'm very, very curious to see what this actually turns out to be.
Will have to see, but if they just crammed four more mp on to a cropped sensor, just keep your 40D and get a 5D2.
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Sassy -

When I told you that you should post more on POTN, I meant more than just posts like this:
Originally Posted by wndrlst
Amen!
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Originally Posted by moeronn
Sassy -

When I told you that you should post more on POTN, I meant more than just posts like this:


I've been busy, dammit!


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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Will have to see, but if they just crammed four more mp on to a cropped sensor, just keep your 40D and get a 5D2.
Agreed - unless they've made some big technological strides. If the MP/sensor issue is acceptable, I would be very, very interested. The 5D mkII's frame rate isn't great for horses - that's been my biggest hold-up.
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Originally Posted by wndrlst
Agreed - unless they've made some big technological strides. If the MP/sensor issue is acceptable, I would be very, very interested. The 5D mkII's frame rate isn't great for horses - that's been my biggest hold-up.
I think the frame rate would be OK, it's not the idea thing, but it's the AF that I think would hinder you. That's why I said in addition to your 40D.
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18 MP seems way high to me, but if they can make it work and high ISO IQ is good, then they have a winner. The 8 fps is cool, too. Would make handheld HDR that much better

I was crunching some numbers between the 8 mp of my 30D and the 18 mp of the supposed 7D...

If you took a shot on the 7D in landscape, you could take a 10 MP portrait crop out of it - better than I can shoot now. Likewise, you could crop in 33% of the image and still have 10 MP. That's like having a 10 MP camera with a 2.1 crop factor. That is awesome for sports or wildlife.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
I think the frame rate would be OK, it's not the idea thing, but it's the AF that I think would hinder you. That's why I said in addition to your 40D.
19 cross type AF points potentially with a dedicated processor should do the trick as long as the servo mode works.

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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
I think the frame rate would be OK, it's not the idea thing, but it's the AF that I think would hinder you. That's why I said in addition to your 40D.
Yup. With the 5D MkII, the 40D would still have to be my go-to equestrian body. The 40D's servo is also less than spectacular at times. It sacrifices the moving subject to the background far more than it should.
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
Find slower horses.
I'd just have to stick to the retarded horse from Family Guy...







(right, Chris? :P)
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Originally Posted by moeronn
19 cross type AF points potentially with a dedicated processor should do the trick as long as the servo mode works.

:ibwndrlstquotesmeandreplies"amen":
Was talking about the 5D2, the 7D is a bust if it's 18mp on a 1.6 sensor.
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Originally Posted by wndrlst
Yup. With the 5D MkII, the 40D would still have to be my go-to equestrian body. The 40D's servo is also less than spectacular at times. It sacrifices the moving subject to the background far more than it should.
Yes it does, and it can be frustrating to the point where I won't use it. I'd rather take my chances with regular AF and get at least some keepers. Shooting motocross, in particular, reveals servos limitations.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Was talking about the 5D2, the 7D is a bust if it's 18mp on a 1.6 sensor.
I think it's a little early to make that statement.
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Originally Posted by waTSX
I think it's a little early to make that statement.
14 was too much with the 50D, no high ISO was gained from it. BETTER mp not more
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Originally Posted by waTSX
Yes it does, and it can be frustrating to the point where I won't use it. I'd rather take my chances with regular AF and get at least some keepers. Shooting motocross, in particular, reveals servos limitations.
I've never liked the spray and pray anyways and the 1D3 just made me hate it.
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I understand the idea, I've been hanging around here for 5 years, I'm just saying we not only don't know what the specs are for sure yet, but we don't know what the effect of an additional processor, software, technological advances, etc, might have on such a camera. Let's at least wait until it comes out and we see some testing.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
I've never liked the spray and pray anyways and the 1D3 just made me hate it.
When 45 professional dirt bike riders are hammering around a berm on their way towards you, it's nice to have both a good burst rate and a servo mode that actually works consistently. I don't like spray and pray either, but some situations warrant it. The 40D's servo mode lacks.
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Originally Posted by waTSX
When 45 professional dirt bike riders are hammering around a berm on their way towards you, it's nice to have both a good burst rate and a servo mode that actually works consistently. I don't like spray and pray either, but some situations warrant it. The 40D's servo mode lacks.
yeah - you can't really compose a shot in those circumstances.

I don't know what to think about this 7D.... does it have video? :P
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Originally Posted by srika
yeah - you can't really compose a shot in those circumstances.

I don't know what to think about this 7D.... does it have video? :P
Lol.
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Originally Posted by waTSX
I understand the idea, I've been hanging around here for 5 years, I'm just saying we not only don't know what the specs are for sure yet, but we don't know what the effect of an additional processor, software, technological advances, etc, might have on such a camera. Let's at least wait until it comes out and we see some testing.
I know, I did preface my first comment with "we will see". But with what Canon has been doing with MP's, I don't like what I'm reading.
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Originally Posted by srika
yeah - you can't really compose a shot in those circumstances.

I don't know what to think about this 7D.... does it have video? :P
From the stuff that Dan has been posting and what he got published he's doing pretty good!
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
I know, I did preface my first comment with "we will see". But with what Canon has been doing with MP's, I don't like what I'm reading.
I agree. The new G11 is actually encouraging for Canon...they went "back" to 10MP.
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
From the stuff that Dan has been posting and what he got published he's doing pretty good!
the MTB stuff? I agree. but those have mostly been solo shots, no? comparable to 45 dirtbikes going around a track often in bunches? I personally don't think so.
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Originally Posted by waTSX
I agree. The new G11 is actually encouraging for Canon...they went "back" to 10MP.
That was a big surprise for everyone, I think it was the first comment that every made about it's news release.
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Maybe Dan uses single shot mode precisely because the servo mode is inconsistent. I don't know. And shooting cars is different. Motocross tracks typically have cluttered backgrounds with lots of trees, spectators, etc.

Nothing more frustrating than framing James "Bubba" Stewart perfectly in the shot, but with him OOF while the BG is tack sharp.
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Originally Posted by waTSX
Maybe Dan uses single shot mode precisely because the servo mode is inconsistent. I don't know. And shooting cars is different. Motocross tracks typically have cluttered backgrounds with lots of trees, spectators, etc.

Nothing more frustrating than framing James "Bubba" Stewart perfectly in the shot, but with him OOF while the BG is tack sharp.
or a shot of someone you want, except with someone else's head blocking theirs -
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