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Old 08-14-2014, 02:00 PM
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Alignment Specs- Rear camber issue

I just had new tires put on and saw that the rear tires were worn out on the inside with feathering. Wanted to get the alignment done so the issue could be resolved. I wanted to look at the specs for 2009 MDX but other than whats in the user manual wich does not give tolerance range, I cant find anything.
After alignment Rear right side camber is -1.3 and toe -.03 and cannot be adjusted without a kit the left rear is at -0.8 camber and 0.00 toe.
Could not find anything bent or damaged so not sure if that camber is within spec or not.

Toe on both front tires is 0.00 now and left camber is -0.7 and right camber is at -1.0

Does anyone knows the alignment specs. Do I need to get a camber kit for the rear or it should be ok if I keep rotating the tires?

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Here is a link for a rear camber kit for +07 MDX for base/tech models only for $174.98 for 2.

http://iapdirect.com/spc-09-honda-pi...r-arm-kit.html

My camber is out of spec for my 11 MDX Adv. Acura tech said it was common and rotations/cross-rotations will help with spreading out the tire wear. I now rotate every oil change and cross rotate every other oil change. I can't find a rear camber kit for MDX Adv.
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Old 08-14-2014, 02:44 PM
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Thanks. I did see the kit but was wondering if -1.3 is still within specs or not. I think this should be easy enough to replace but the mechanic was saying something that the whole suspension was under load from the spring and the spring needs to come off before you could install the kit. I will have to get under there my self and take a look. Haven't worked on the MDX a whole lot yet.
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Originally Posted by zsameer
Thanks. I did see the kit but was wondering if -1.3 is still within specs or not. I think this should be easy enough to replace but the mechanic was saying something that the whole suspension was under load from the spring and the spring needs to come off before you could install the kit. I will have to get under there my self and take a look. Haven't worked on the MDX a whole lot yet.
I have to track down the spec sheets from the before/after my alignment at Firestone. My final specs on my 11 Adv might be different compared to 07-09 MDX base/tech/sport model? The Firestone tech wasn't too concern about the negative camber. They tried to sell me a base/tech rear camber kit to correct it; but, I had to let them know I had the Advance model (Firestone didn't know how to tell the difference). The Firestone tech said depending on how I drive the MDX, a little negative camber might be a positive thing for handling on the corners.

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Mine is 09 with Tech package.
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Here is my before and after from 7/16/14 when Acura replaced my front endlinks. Not very pretty. It feels good on the hwy.

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Old 08-14-2014, 10:39 PM
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Thanks a lot bro. Looking at yours mine doesn't look that bad. I don't understand why the camber is so messed up on our cars. I guess we gotta live with it. I don't feel like messing with the camber kit. Does your car pull to one side and is your steering straight or tilted a few degrees?
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Originally Posted by zsameer
Thanks a lot bro. Looking at yours mine doesn't look that bad. I don't understand why the camber is so messed up on our cars. I guess we gotta live with it. I don't feel like messing with the camber kit. Does your car pull to one side and is your steering straight or tilted a few degrees?
The MDX feel and drives perfectly fine in the city and hwy. The MDX drives straight and it takes little effort to stay in my lane or steer. I usually set the cruise control to 80-85 mph and the MDX feels good to me. The MDX is very easy on you to drive long distances and it is made to gobble up hwy miles with little effort on your part.

I just purchased my MDX in Jan/14, from Colorado. I've noticed the MDX didn't feel right driving back to NM (5 hr drive). The alignment at Firestone was in the yellow and/or red for most of the settings. New tires and alignment really smoothed out the hwy ride.
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Took the car back to the shop that did the alignment. He was using 2001-2006MDX in the computer. Long story short I got my money back and took the car to the dealership. The toe on the front left was way off. They were able to center the steering and everything was put back to specs. Everything is in green and I am happy
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So everyone understands Camber does not wear tires.

Your negative rear camber is fine.

Toe is what wears tires out.

I would set toe 0.00 front and 0.00 back even tho on print out it shows its in the red zone.
Just tell your align tech to set it all at 0 toe for best wear.
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Originally Posted by ECRD
So everyone understands Camber does not wear tires.

Your negative rear camber is fine.

Toe is what wears tires out.

I would set toe 0.00 front and 0.00 back even tho on print out it shows its in the red zone.
Just tell your align tech to set it all at 0 toe for best wear.
Excessive negative camber does wear the inside tread. I bought a 1974 TR6 brand new with excessive negative camber which could not be adjusted. Rear tires were shot in 10k miles. Unfortunately that was the least of the problems on that junker! Had fun driving it a couple years and sold it.
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Negative camber does wear the inside of the tires. Had the issue with my accord after lowering it and kept going through tires like crazy till I got the camber kit and got the camber adjusted. Having directional tires doesn't help either as you can do cross rotation on those to help with the inside wear on the tire.

As for the MDX I just got non directional tires this time so I can keep rotating them and hopefully the tire wear will be even.
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Originally Posted by zsameer
Negative camber does wear the inside of the tires. Had the issue with my accord after lowering it and kept going through tires like crazy till I got the camber kit and got the camber adjusted. Having directional tires doesn't help either as you can do cross rotation on those to help with the inside wear on the tire.

As for the MDX I just got non directional tires this time so I can keep rotating them and hopefully the tire wear will be even.
My TSX and RDX are lowered and negative camber and tire wear was an issue also. I put on a camber kit for the TSX; but, cannot find camber kits for the RDX or MDX Adv. I only use non-directional tires for all three vehicles and do rotation or cross-rotations every oil change.
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Originally Posted by zsameer
Having directional tires doesn't help either as you can do cross rotation on those to help with the inside wear on the tire.
I meant to say cant cross rotate directional tires.
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Originally Posted by ECRD
So everyone understands Camber does not wear tires.

Your negative rear camber is fine.

Toe is what wears tires out.

I would set toe 0.00 front and 0.00 back even tho on print out it shows its in the red zone.
Just tell your align tech to set it all at 0 toe for best wear.

And there are no camber adjustments on the rear of the mdx, only the front. There is rear toe though.
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