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Alternatively you can try to force the update by clearing the data on Google Services Framework.

Settings --> Apps --> All Tab --> Google Services Framework --> Clear data

Then check for update. Repeat until it downloads. May take a few times.

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Originally Posted by CGFebTSX04
Alternatively you can try to force the update by clearing the data on Google Services Framework.

Settings --> Apps --> All Tab --> Google Services Framework --> Clear data

Then check for update. Repeat until it downloads. May take a few times.
Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
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Got the Nexus 7 update today, I like how the home screen/widgets will do landscape now, what else is new?

Edit: oops, didn't see previous page
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Originally Posted by is300eater
Got the Nexus 7 update today, I like how the home screen/widgets will do landscape now, what else is new?
One finger expansion/collapse of notifications. You have to slide down first. A bunch of bugfixes:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/10...lows-and-more/
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Nexus 7 32 GB supposedly starting to sell on the 29th for the same price as the 16 GB is at now. The 8 GB are being phased out? There are rumors of a $99 8GB in the future though:

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/19/3...oct-29th-leak/

Some people are saying they've already bought the 32 GB versions and people who ordered from the Play Store automatically got upgraded to the 32 GB version since they're holding shipments.
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So I guess Samsung and Google are really pushing to get their higher resolution Tablet out:

Google and Samsung will announce a new 10-inch tablet codenamed "Manta" at its October 29th event, according to The Next Web. If the sites unnamed sources are to be believed the Manta will feature a 10-inch 2560 x 1600 display with an iPad-beating pixel density of around 300ppi. The tablet, which if real will likely be released as the Nexus 10, will reportedly be sold alongside the existing Asus Nexus 7 and new LG Nexus 4 as part of a multi-manufacturer Nexus program. There aren't any further details on the purported Nexus 10; processor and pricing will be key to the tablet's success.

At the same event, Google will announce a slight refresh to its Nexus 7 line, bringing HSPA+ 3G connectivity to the tablet for the first time, as well as the now-confirmed internal storage bump. The Next Web also reports that both the Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 will launch with an updated OS, Android 4.2. It named "content in the center" (a new Play Store Widget), "Tablet Sharing" (multiple user accounts on one device), and horizontal and vertical panoramic photo capture as headline features for the new OS. It's not clear if Google will release 4.2 under a new codename or if it will still be named Jelly Bean. Although, as with any rumor, these details should be taken with a pinch of salt, The Next Web seems pretty certain that its sources are accurate.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/21/3...roid-4-2-rumor
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Great read on why the iPad Mini missed the mark for a portable iPad:

The iPad Mini not only isn't revolutionary in any way, it isn't even an iterative improvement on the iPad series, nor does it challenge opponents to step up their game (at most it challenges opponents to lower their prices further, a challenge they seem capable of meeting).

It was obvious during the launch that Apple was aware of its weaknesses, and like any good magician they practiced the art of misdirection, focusing on red herring issues like how that extra .9-inches of screen real estate mean a better browsing experience (because tapping or pinching to zoom is such an enormous hardship, apparently), or their subtle assertion that the Nexus 7 feels "cheap" and "plasticky" (which, outside the reality distortion field at least, is nowhere near true; sorry, Apple, but even professional fanboi MG Siegler doesn't agree with you on that one).

Even Samsung wouldn't try to make a selling point of having the biggest mini tablet out there... it's a mini for a reason, after all!
If anything even Apple must have known their "mini" wasn't really very mini, how else to explain those ungodly narrow bezels in portrait mode? Those bezels are so narrow that, to borrow a Jobsianism, they make no sense for normal human hands unless it also comes with sandpaper to file down your fingers with.
http://technerdium.blogspot.com/2012...n-decline.html


And a good break down of what went down yesterday (start at 1:50):

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The 32 GB Nexus 7 are starting to hit retailers now. Looks like they'll be available officially on the 29th. One of them is stating that the $25 and free Transformer movie is still included but I thought they already stopped that last month.

http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=242286968

http://www.adorama.com/ASUS1B32.html

Some people were already able to get them at some Staples as well even though they're not supposed to sell them yet.
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I put some rom on my 7 called smooth something and its awesome. best so far.
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Nexus 7 3G passes through FCC

So I guess it really is coming.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/25/n...rough-the-fcc/

Wonder if they'll skip LTE to keep the cost down. I could see them undercutting the iPad Mini greatly if they did. Now that the 16 GB will go for $199 I can see them add the 3G for around $50-100 more of the base price. That would mean the iPad Mini would cost more if you got the LTE version.
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Originally Posted by Whiskers
I put some rom on my 7 called smooth something and its awesome. best so far.
LiquidSmooth? Still using CM10 Nightlies with Franco's kernel and so far so good. I'm thinking of going back to stock this weekend just in case Google decides to drop 4.2 on Monday.
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Nexus 10

Nexus 10 Specifications

Samsung Exynos 5250
Clocked at 1.7 GHz
Dual-core Cortex-A15
Mali-T604 GPU
2GB RAM
16GB internal storage (other options possible)
10.1-inch Super AMOLED display
2560 x 1600 pixel resolution
298.9 pixels-per-inch

5-megapixel rear-facing camera
LED flash
Front-facing camera
NFC
WiFi
Bluetooth 4.0
Dual speakers located on front of device

http://briefmobile.com/google-nexus-...ng-android-4-2

Looks like a bigger Nexus 7 Touchpad hybrid. Not sure I like how they got rid of tablet mode like in Honeycomb. Hitting those software buttons in the middle in landscape mode will be a pain. Maybe they want it to be used in portrait mode primarily.
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Android 4.2 is also featured in the same article. Pretty much everything Android Police uncovered is spot on. There will be multi user support and the new quick settings bar in the notification. Not much left for Google to show off Monday except for the prices. Lol.
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That nexus 10 looks nice on paper
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
That nexus 10 looks nice on paper
Yeah the specs sound good. Samsung's new A15 Dual Core Exynos which is found in this tablet and the $250 Chromebook they just released is supposed to be even faster than the new Quadcore Qualcomm S4 Pros in the upcoming LG Nexus.

Not sure if I'm sold on the design but I guess they had to make it that way so Apple wouldn't sue them again. I remember people complaining about the large bezels on the Nexus 7 and then changing their minds once they got a hold of the device so ill wait and see what they say about this one. The back side is supposedly made of aluminum and coated with rubber on the sides So it should feel good in the hand. The only thing that's bugging me is the placement of the software buttons in the middle in landscape mode. Its already difficult to hit them on the Nexus 7 but on a 10" it'll be even harder. I guess running a custom DPI could fix that but a normal user shouldn't have to tinker with that.

Oh also, the rumor for this tablet was its supposed to be priced to sell like the Nexus 7. Some sites claim it'll sell for $299 which I doubt but some are saying around $350. lets hope they're right. A higher than retina display and fastest processor available now for $350 would be amazing.
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yea there's a lot of bezel there... not so sure if i like the design. Specs look good though.
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Ubuntu on Nexus 7


http://nexus7root.com/nexus-7-ubuntu...exus-7-native/

Hopefully, they figure out how to dual boot with this in the future.
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Flashed back to stock 4.1.2. Just rooted it using the Toolkit method:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1809195

I was gonna keep it unrooted until 4.2 dropped but since the event got cancelled, I realized I needed root more than I remembered most especially for GestureControl which I use a lot on this tablet. I guess I might as well flash a new kernel as well. Lol.

Also, I've noticed that stock is slightly more fluid than CM10. It could be due to a fresh install or something though but I've noticed everything to be a lot smoother. I've been meaning to do a clean CM10 install but thought I'd just go back to stock for the 4.2 drop so it could just be my tablet needed a fresh install.
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So I never noticed until now how bad NVIDIA's battery saving tech makes the color on the Nexus 7 look all washed out. If you have root, you can disable it using the following command in any terminal:

Code:
echo "0" > /sys/devices/tegradc.0/smartdimmer/enable
Or for the noobs, there's an app out there that you just click:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...bS50b2dnbGUiXQ..
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interesting, what is it doing that actually saves battery?
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interesting, what is it doing that actually saves battery?
To save battery while playing video Tegra intelligently decreases the backlight while increasing color brightness and contrast. Because it monitors on a frame by frame basis the changes are often unnoticable. You basically end up with the same displayed image using less backlight.

Unfortunately it seems to get stuck even after you leave the video and the changes are very noticeable as the changes were specific to the video frame you just left and not your homescreen.

This also may be the cause of some ghosting issues and for some it seems to eliminate any ghosting problems for them.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1815414

I've never noticed it because I was running a custom kernel that disabled the feature so going back to stock with root made my colors all washed out. I don't think its limited to just videos either because anything that causes the tablet to go full screen seems to trigger it like in viewing your photos.
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Nexus 10:


http://briefmobile.com/googles-nexus-10-caught-on-video

It really does look like a TouchPad and not as bad as the pictures from earlier.
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I gotta say, i'm not liking the home screen... i've had a complaint with the ipad as it being just a bigger phone with the same UI. And i kinda have that same complaint with this. I guess on the 7" its passable. But on a 10" theres so much room to do more then just have three buttons on the bottom, which you cant even access with your thumbs
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Event got cancelled?
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2030779.html

Ah..
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yea two years in a row now
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i'm pretty against pulling out a tablet to take pics

but the N10 seems to do a pretty good job regardless


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Originally Posted by speedemon90
I gotta say, i'm not liking the home screen... i've had a complaint with the ipad as it being just a bigger phone with the same UI. And i kinda have that same complaint with this. I guess on the 7" its passable. But on a 10" theres so much room to do more then just have three buttons on the bottom, which you cant even access with your thumbs
Yeah I hope they don't get rid of the Honeycomb layout. I do see why they would want to do it this way (to unify all of their platforms) but its really difficult to hit those buttons in landscape mode. Its already difficult on the Nexus 7 which is why I use Gesture Control to do a 3 pinch Back and 4 pinch Home gesture amongst other gestures.

There's some speculation that the reason its running a phone UI is because the DPI is way too high. To get the Honeycomb tablet UI I believe you have to have Android running a DPI below 160 or somewhere around there. So maybe because the resolution is so high, the DPI is high as well which is forcing it to stay in Phone UI mode. Another theory is that this is an early build of 4.2. I believe BriefMobile said it was about a month old and you know how a month old is in Android terms. Lol.
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yea haha

I was reading some argument how the phone ui was better and now i'm in between haha.
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Microsoft released their XBox SmartGlass app the other day for all platforms (Android, iOS and WP7):


Link to get it for the tablets (Microsoft probably forgot to change the manifest):

http://www.mediafire.com/?panj8yo9aj40ojt

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1957648

^Install the above like any other apk. No root required. Don't have an XBox to try this on but it looks pretty cool.

For everyone else that can install it from the Play Store:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...1hcnRnbGFzcyJd

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Nexus 10 priced at $399 for the 16gb. Thats really cheap. I hope lots of people take to this, as this will bring more developers and better apps for tablets on google play.

If it does, and its a very big if. This will destroy the ipad... but its an if that probably wont be resolved for a year or two, my guess.

Still this thing is the same price as an ipad 2....
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pretty aggressive pricing by google.
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seems to be the only way they can possibly get developers attention.

No way they can compete with the same pricing as the ipad... even if it could solve world peace.
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Definitely has some great specs. Can't wait for them to be in stores so I can go play with one.
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Definitely great prices. Like I said in the other thread, you're getting the same retina resolution in the new Macbook 13" in a 10" form factor coupled with the fastest A15 chip set currently in the market all for $399. If you want to know why Apple released the iPad 4 so quickly it was because of this tablet. The iPad 3 didn't have enough horsepower to run the retina resolution and mainly the reason why so many games had to use lower surface textures to compensate for the higher res. So you had higher res gaming with shitty textures. With the iPad 4 they've matched the specs of the Nexus 10 so Google wouldn't have any advantage until the next time the new iPad was supposed to be released.

Also, if the figures that came out saying that Android took 41% of the tablet market compared to last year then Apple needed to release the 4 to stop the hemorrhaging. Yes technically the Kindle isn't Android but their apps work in the Play Store and that's all that Google cares about because it attracts more developers. A lot of people were hoping the Mini would've done it but they completely missed the mark and will probably suffer in the holiday season unless they cut the price a little more. I mean you can get a 32 GB Nexus 7 with 3G/HSPA+ for $299. That's cheaper than the mini which doesn't even have GPS yet.
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Matias Duarte answers some questions about 4.2 on Google+

Why did you make the system buttons and status bar consistent across all devices in Jelly Bean?

Consistency and usability are really important to us, and that’s something we strive to improve in every new version of Android. With Honeycomb we first introduced the idea of a completely onscreen navigation UI which gave us unprecedented flexibility in how that UI adapts and transforms - both when you turn the device in your hands and when the software changes and has different control needs. Now in Jelly Bean we’ve made the universal software navigation buttons and system bar consistent across all screen sizes.

This new configuration is based on usability research we did on all of the different form factors and screen sizes that Android runs on. What mattered most of all was muscle memory - keeping the buttons where you expect them, no matter how you hold the device.

Phones are almost always used in portrait mode, flip sideways occasionally, and never go upside down. As screen sizes get larger though, any which way goes. Imagine the frustration you’d feel if every time you picked up a tablet off the table ‘the wrong way up’ you found yourself reaching for a home button that wasn’t where you expect it to be? That irritation adds up and over time like a tiny grain of sand in your shoe and undermines the rest of your experience.

The Jelly Bean system bar always keeps the same 3 buttons where you expect them. This happens dynamically for every screen size, up until you get to small handheld screens where stacking the bars in landscape mode would leave too little vertical space.

The second thing we discovered was that there are almost as many different ways of holding our devices as there are people. In fact people love to use their Nexus so much that they use them for such long periods of time that having a single ‘correct grip’ is actually counter productive and increases hand strain. The Jelly Bean navigation buttons work equally well for left handers and right handers, one handed use, or two handed use, and for devices you’re carrying, resting on your knee, or putting on the table.

Last but not least, by unifying the design we are now able to put Notifications and Quick Settings right where you’d expect them, and only one swipe away.


Why don’t Nexus devices have SD cards?

Everybody likes the idea of having an SD card, but in reality it's just confusing for users.

If you’re saving photos, videos or music, where does it go? Is it on your phone? Or on your card? Should there be a setting? Prompt everytime? What happens to the experience when you swap out the card? It’s just too complicated.

We take a different approach. Your Nexus has a fixed amount of space and your apps just seamlessly use it for you without you ever having to worry about files or volumes or any of that techy nonsense left over from the paleolithic era of computing.

With a Nexus you know exactly how much storage you get upfront and you can decide what’s the right size for you. That’s simple and good for users.
https://plus.google.com/114892667463...ts/JAAMUzx1PFX

tl;dr Honeycomb layout is gone to unify the Phone and tablet experience. SD card not available because it ruins user experience of maintaining the internal and sd card which confuses regular consumers.
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After getting full Ubuntu on the Nexus 7, Chrome OS has been ported to the Nexus 7:


More info:

http://hexxeh.net/?p=328117891


Staples is also clearing out their 8 GB Nexus 7 shipments at $159.90 right now. Stock may vary by location. Check Slickdeals for info:

http://slickdeals.net/f/5415930-Goog...Staples-159-90

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ASUS and Google giving credit refund for 16 GB Nexus 7 in US and UK

Only good if you bought your Nexus 7 from the Play Store and it looks like Google's policy is good up to within 15 days of the price drop.

Anyone who purchased the Nexus 7 before October 29 when the price dropped and more memory suddenly meant less money certainly has a reason to be a little upset. Up to this point we haven’t heard anything from either ASUS or Google on the subject, but the situation seems to have changed today. Depending on where you live in Europe, you can receive a €30 or €25 voucher to the ASUS store if you purchased it before the price drop.

Better get your receipt ready though, ASUS does want you to register your tablet through their website to get your voucher. It’s worth noting as well that the Nexus 7 must have come directly from ASUS or Google to cash in on this voucher. No word on a plan like this for the US, but we’ll keep our ear to the ground since more than a few of you might be interested.

Update: Reader Thom pointed out that Google offers a similar “Price Protection” for devices whose prices have been reduced. The 16GB Nexus 7 is singled out in their Help section as being eligible. It reads:

Nexus 7 (16GB version only) purchases from Devices on Google Play are currently eligible for Price Protection if the purchase was made on or after October 14, 2012. If your purchase is eligible, we’ll refund the difference in price within 14 days of your request.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/09...re-price-drop/

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Nexus 7 32GB for $229.99

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...m=310502050925

This is the 32GB version and no tax except in New Jersey and shipping is free! Such a good price. I think this will be the lowest it'll get on Black Friday and that's gonna have tax at Office Depot.
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Originally Posted by CGFebTSX04
Only good if you bought your Nexus 7 from the Play Store and it looks like Google's policy is good up to within 15 days of the price drop.



http://www.droid-life.com/2012/11/09...re-price-drop/

http://support.google.com/googleplay...3057&ctx=topic
damn, that sucks... I guess this wouldn't include Canadian purchases from Staples(?)


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