MoneyPit

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Ay yo.
Since I spun my turbo 180 degrees, down, and back in my engine bay, the exhaust side had pretty considerable heat radiation on the cold-side of my intake tubing, so my intercooler efforts were being thwarted. With inspiration from the Supra guys, I built a stainless steel turbo heat shield to re-direct the heat.
Without futher ado, on to the pizorz. Comments/critiques whalecum, as always.
1. I started with a stainless steel pot. I chose the brushed look to match my brushed strut bar, brushed aluminum coolant overflow tank, and brushed P2R plenums.


2. To start, I traced the circumference of the pot onto a cardboard box, then used a razor blade to cut the circle.


3. Since the purpose of the shield is to direct heat AWAY from the intake piping, the closed end of the shield will be facing the firewall. This end of the shield will rest on the vband flange on my downpipe. In order to get the size correct, I just grabbed a piece of 3" exhaust scrap and centered it up. Trace, then cut. Bada-bing.



4. Once the end-cap template was cut, I placed it on the turbo to ensure that the tolerances were where I wanted them. During this step, I did some trimming to ensure that the top and sides of the shield would meet perfectly flush with the compressor side of the turbo. Measure ten times, cut once.


5. With the end-cap template complete, I trimmed a bonnet comparable in depth to the actual pot. Once the correct size, I taped it up.





6. Test fit. Trim here, there, and everywhere for the perfect fitment.



7. Once I was happy with the template, I layed it over the $28 pot and traced it. With blue masking tape as my cut line (as well as to protect the pot from damage),I went ahead and cut it with a cutoff disc/jigsaw. This was tough though, because I didn't want to heat the stainless to a point where it would have heat penetration marks and or/warpage. I used an ice water soaked rag to cool every cut I made.







8. Test fit. Trim here, there, and everywhere for the perfect fitment. In this case, I had to torque the oil-feed fitting on my turbo to move it out of the way of the shield.


9. Once the shield fit to my liking, I went back and hand-sanded the edges to give it a perfect, finished look.




10. At this point, the shield itself was done. To mount it, I built two brackets from bolts on the exhaust side of the turbo. Once these were perfect, I tacked them from behind (again, with ice water soaked rags on the opposite side of the shield to prevent heat penetration damage in the finish).



11. Bada-bing. A turbo heat shield that fits/looks better than most/all of the aftermarket units available. Nobody will ever know this thing was once intended to cook spagetti.





12. Total cost: ~$30 and two hours of labor. It works beautifully as well, the intake piping is ice-cold again! Nom nom. Nom. I have a peice of the unused pot being engraved at a local trophy shop so that I can tack a "brand" on the topside. Should be dope!

e30cabrio

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That is a great use of pot! lol

friesm2000

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time to cook some eggs
but as said for using a pot


for me i would have just used one of those turbo heatshield blankets that you can buy, and been done with it



also for the brand tacking, i think it would look better if you got your actual heatshield engraved, and not a little add on piece

fsttyms1

NIce work!

SuperTrooper169

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Very creative. Nice work!

civicdrivr

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That is friggin awesome. Kudos good sir

OLD_HATCH

lol good work.

if i would have had more room around my turbo, I would have gone with a heat shield as well.

1StGenCL

that is badass. Nice work

Majofo

Nice build!

teh CL

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sick..

love this damn car..

phee

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dyno yet?

MoneyPit

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sng35

sick build...buy my wheels...that's if you're looking for light and baller wheels...i have Black Chrome Volk TE37's if you're interested...wud go great with the car..

MoneyPit

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My Leon Hardiritt Kloster 3pc forged > your volk TE37's.

HBaJ

Sick, idk if you went over this but..do you not have reverse lights? haha

Moose Muscles

your car is fvcking gay.... and i hate your soul

i heard envy is the greatest compliment and you can only measure success by how much your hated...

with that being said, sick build and when your ready to sell i have a 1 way plane ticket to Washington and i'll drive back


ps....what do u think the whole transition has run you? ball park number of course

subinf

I really like the work you have done. Looks great

Doom878

The engine is I'm not a fan of some of the exterior stuff you've done but this car should be the fastest 6th gen Accord ever.

civicdrivr

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Im not impressed

MoneyPit

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No reverse lights as of now. I'm working on integrating some into each side of my license plate in the bumper recess. My goal is to make it look OEM using e46 side markers.
Wat? lol. You'd be sick if you knew how much I didn't spend on this swap. The full powertrain, including built engine/trans/turbo, has probably only set me back ~$4k.
Thanks bud
Thanks We'll see BTW I hate my CF hood

civicdrivr

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When are we going to see some vids?

Costco

that heat shield is sick

MoneyPit

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When you post yours :P

I just broke another axle last night That's the second cl-s axle in three weeks, and I don't even have traction. I'm concerned about what will happen when I hook up It looks like custom axles will be needed sooner than I expected

friesm2000

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with getting some axles already, i want to see what it can do already with a set of slicks mounted on there (BTW: some soft wall slicks will help prevent breaking axles, due to it being not as large of a shock when they do hook up)


otherwise

MoneyPit

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^All it takes is $$ man, I'm leaving for medical school in May so shelling out big for custom axles isn't exactly justifiable right now.

But yeah, you and me both.

OLD_HATCH

you braking axles cause of tourque or wheelhop?

If its wheelhop and you adress that first might not have to shell out for axles.

civicdrivr

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Axles were one of the contributing factors as to why Im not turboing mine. The other was traction.

I just hit 2500 miles today. Im going to be doing some more work to it before I post videos. I also want to wait until it gets nicer out, this snow sucks.

MoneyPit

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Torque. The wheelhop is virtually gone with the poly-filled beam and innovatives. The reason I had the wheelhop initially was because my side-mount was mashed, but I've since replaced it with the innovative unit.

What's stressy though is that, like I said, I can't even come close to getting traction, and on both occasions, axles have broken in first gear when boost hit, NOT from a launch.

On that note, anyone looking for mounts, just get the new innovative units. They're a different design that addresses the sagging and damage that was previously a problem.

Old design/destruction:


New design, after lowered to clear hood:

MoneyPit

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The lack of traction is fun, the broken axles aren't. Both can be fixed though. I already have slicks, and I know I'll end up shelling the $$ out for custom axles eventually, but I just can't do it right this minute.

So you decided against turbo? Bummer

civicdrivr

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Yep. Theres no point if I cant put the power down. The CL isnt even my "fun" car sadly.

friesm2000

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that mount looks to be more deformed, then every else has shown

MoneyPit

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Who talked you out of it? Paul? Are you going SC?

For me, the effort put forth into this motor/trans/turbo is massive compared to the effort it will take to correct the traction/axle issue. Easy shit.

Now if the trans turns out not to hold the power, that's a different story...

civicdrivr

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Paul made mention to the traction issues, but I was thinking about it before I even had the motor built. Its really pointless to have over 400whp if you cant put any of it down. Sure it gets fun after 80mph, but I dont spend alot of time at those speeds. I used to, but thats the reason why I no longer do that.

The CL is still a daily, so Id like to keep it as reliable as I possibly can. I have another vehicle to keep the fun factor up, and Ive also got the bike.

Im not trying to take anything away from your car though. Its a friggin beast and I wouldnt mind owning it, but I just dont think it's a smart idea for me to boost a daily when its already got plenty of power for now. If I end up getting bored, then I may revisit this idea, but for now its not going to happen.

Inaccurate

MoneyPit,

Can you clarify for me... Did you break the second axle after you had eliminated the wheelhop problem?

If there was no wheelhop when the second axle broke, it may had been because the second axle was severely fractured(stress crack) from the previous hopping before you eliminated the hopping. It is entirely possible for an axle to have catastrophic stress cracks for a period of time, and then for it to actually completely break later.

The normal everyday street tires (not drag radials) should act as a "blow-off" valve (as a figure of speaking). The street tires will not allow enough traction for the axles to see sufficient torque to cause the axle to snap.

Just to be thorough with my previous thought, I might add that popping the clutch could snap an axle, even with street tires.

On a brighter note, congratulations on your project. You have great craftsmanship. The heat shield looks fantastic.

I hate cars

First off I would like to say nice build! I saw the link to this from the 3g turbo thread.

Inaccurate, I have to agree. With the tires as the fuse, even if this thing made 700hp it's not putting any more stress on the axles than a stock car assuming the stock car can spin the tires. It is putting the max stress for a longer period of time though.

I had to lol at the heatshield. That looks almost identical to the factory GN headshields. I would've given you a chrome one nearly free.

Now I've got some reading to do, I skipped to the end so I have no idea of the hp of this car and I don't want to be like those in the 3g thread asking for dynos when it was already posted 10 pages ago.

Majofo

^ no dynos.. fyi.. check out the new motor mounts though! I'm not sure the TL guys know about it yet..

Inaccurate

But to make it clear for other readers, these are not the new secret mounts that we are waiting to see from Excelerate. At least, I think these are not the ones

The 2G guys, mainly RUF87, have been working with Innovative for some time now to improve Innovative's design. This "sideways" mount is one of the beta's that RUF87 has tested for Innovative.

Majofo

hmm.. well they seem to work from the OP's testimony..

MoneyPit

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My accord is a DD. Well, it used to be, and once it's dyno tuned, it will be again. No excuses bish.

Sure bud. Both broken axles were on the passenger side. The first broke during an episode of wheelhop at 4k RPM in second gear. The second (a used replacement, I understand it may have been previously damaged) broke in first at ~5k RPM, no wheelhop. I remedied the wheelhop by adding the third innovative mount and two torque dampers. I have been taking it somewhat easy with launches/harsh shifts to break the clutch in as well.

I agree that the street tires should be the weakest link in the system, BUT, I'd also like to point out that on both occasions, the axles did not break on a launch. They broke at a decent rolling speed, where a full burnout is less likely to happen.

Like I said, although I knew the axles were going to be an issue, I didn't expect to be dealing with them this early. I'm going to be replacing the axle with a new OEM unit, and then monitoring my driving very carefully. Seeing as the other turbo cl-s guys haven't had this much of an issue, it's definitely something I'll be paying attention to. As always, I'll update you guys.
Haha, thanks bud. To answer your dyno question, it hasn't happened yet. I live in southern Oregon, and the only tuner I'll allow to come within ten feet of my car is located in southern Washington (English Racing). Until I can break away for that long-haul, I'm getting the afr/timing safe and acceptable for DD via wideband and e-manage. I plan to get some dyno time no longer than one month from now.
I was told by Innovative that they are the "2nd gen" j-series mounts. I didn't get my replacement for about 4mos while they were being R&D'd, but one look at them compared to the old design makes me wonder what they were thinking in the first place.
Yessir.
Well they've only got a few thousand miles on them at this point, but so far so good.

pass427

I had to check out thread after seeing the link from 3g turbo thread awesome build ,I see you've got everything pretty much completed , but if you ever need any help or just questions feel free to pm or email , we are here to learn help and expand our knowledge .....