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Oh, hi. Im not sure if you're the same person they were talking about before or not, but that's a good story you shared.
Well, I would agree that if you're in a salt coastal environment then oxidation will always be a bit worse for you. We fight the same thing with external parts in Houston.
In that pic you posted, will the oxidation wipe off the rotor hat? From that image, it looks like the oxidation is forming a witness mark from where the wheel is installed. To me, that seems like there was some superficial oxidation that got wicked into the contact patch and dried. I'd be surprised if it didn't clean off.
Mainly because the alternate is that the pattern was caused by a minute slippage between the wheel and the rotor face, indicative of a loose wheel. But I wouldn't expect that on all four corners unless the wheels were wrong/not seating right.
Seems strange.
What did you end up doing?
Your right on the hat that is the mark of my wheels. Those wheels had been on for about 5 months. The brakes are about a year old. I did clean them but did not get a picture. The dusty looking spots cleaned up you can't really see that with the wheels on the part you can see is the ring on the disk itself that the caliper does not hit. Those did not clean up. I only tried soap and water. Brake cleaner was suggested I have not tried it. The wheels were off when I installed my new springs so I was not really focused on the brakes. I only replaced the front since at the time the stock rears were still good. The front left and right look identical. I just purchased ebc brakes for the rear and have not gotten them on yet.
That rotor looks totally normal to me. The pad doesn't touch that inner part which is why there is rust obviously. Which is why before I installed my rotors i painted those parts with hi-temp black spray. Still looks like new.
Again I agree read the description of those brakes on there site. They coated that area with a black coating to prevent rust so by there advertising the step you did was done.
Yeah the hat IS black but they didn't take into the account the area that doesn't get touched by the pad. That's how it is on most cars. Even the stock rotors were like that.
No matter what brake package you go with that area won't get touched by the pad, and most of them aren't even painted on that area either.
I guess I just look at that sort or situation and don't even process that it's anything but normal. I know what you mean now about that little circle area of no-mans land where the pads doesn't touch but isn't treated either.
I guess I've just gotten used to seeing that since there really isn't much to do, and because almost every rotor looks like that unless you do a spot touchup like robpp said.
Oh, and about the other part about the vendor and manufacturer denying a warranty claim... If what you showed above is what you showed them, then I can understand them saying "no". Because that's pretty much expected and normal condition.
Now, whether or not they handled it in a constructive manner? I have no idea. But their response seems normal.
My intention was to purchase better than stock. Which I thought I did. Clearly not. I'm not comparing these to stock equipment. No one is or why not buy stock. Like I said I've looked most upgraded brakes I have seen do not rust like this. My friend has stoptech brakes without the black coating and they are silver even where the caliper does not hit. Same environment as me.
It will be very interesting to see how the new rear brakes look in time.
I guess I'm the only one that does not want upgraded brakes that rust. As for not seeing a set of brakes that don't rust. Here is a few pics just walking from my car to my office door. First pic are stoptech brakes 1 year old same environment as my car. No black e coating.
Hey bro enjoy your rusty brakes. Ask for advise then don't like the answer.
I asked how the rust issue is, you responded, you showed your situation, others chimed in and stated it was normal. Done. I don't see the need for 10 posts on the same thing. Don't keep ranting over and over.
Speaking of "enjoying" my brakes... Something arrived at my front door today quality was actually pretty good. Buddy and I will be installing it tomorrow morning. Wish us luck. I even have my impact wrenches and drivers ready.
How did my thread devolve to............ evaluating if someone's rotors are defective based on rust and how the warranty was denied?
I understand it's the same brakes I purchased (and will be installing tomorrow), but I think we all get the issue.
How? Easy; It's the natural ebb and flow of this site! This thread actually stayed uncharacteristically on topic, in retrospect... There has been no mention of self-fornication, no maternal insults, and Canada hasn't once been mentioned in vain. All in all, this has been a good thread!
Congrats on the purchase. It sounds like you know what you're in for and what to expect. Post back with some photos and your impressions when you get a chance.
I purchased a set of the EBC USR series with Green Stuff Pads. The USR's are fully coated in black and only the areas the pad contacts wear down to bare metal. Unfortunately the bedding procedure is longer as you have to wear away the black coating evenly first before bedding but I think it will be well worth it.
I am happy with them so far but still haven't bedded the pads fully yet.
10-08-2015, 07:10 PM
quality was actually pretty good. Buddy and I will be installing it tomorrow morning. Wish us luck. I even have my impact wrenches and drivers ready.
