top competitors to 03 CL type S 6MT
top competitors to 03 CL type S 6MT
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02-05-2015, 03:34 PM
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'08 MX5 GT 6spd.
The Accord coupe is very close. Other close competitors, though both RWD, IMO would be the RX8 and G35 Coupe. Both are extremely similarly equipped.
The G is quite a bit smaller than the CL, and the 8 isn't as efficient but 7000x more fun to drive. Would have to go do 04 to do either of the other two.
The G is quite a bit smaller than the CL, and the 8 isn't as efficient but 7000x more fun to drive. Would have to go do 04 to do either of the other two.
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02-06-2015, 07:02 AM
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I have beaten a Cl 6 in my auto in the highway until I switched into 4th gear.
Man the look on his face one I told him it was auto!
Then he told me he had headers and intake!
I dunno how but I beat him to 100 mph from 40 mph so you 6 speeds arnt unbeatable. But my car is pretty much maxed out with mods.
Man the look on his face one I told him it was auto!
Then he told me he had headers and intake!
I dunno how but I beat him to 100 mph from 40 mph so you 6 speeds arnt unbeatable. But my car is pretty much maxed out with mods.
02-06-2015, 10:33 AM
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6mt swapped..smart
When you limit your target group to just coupes in the CL price range, not much. I'd say a good head to head would be an 02 6mt maxima se. But again, that's a sedan. I guess as car and driver saw it way back then and Starter already stated, the bmw 330ci is a good coupe comparo.
And justnspace, as for the TL being faster..simply nope-sorry. And the gap lengthens with bolt ons for the cl since tl's are far more limited by their exhaust setups. And no cl or tl is trapping 101-103 stock at sea level. I have pretty much every bolt on possible and trap 103 in my 6mt cl. Stock should be right around 98mph for both cars. I'll agree with you on the TL interior though aside from the most important part for me which is the CL's seats>>>
And justnspace, as for the TL being faster..simply nope-sorry. And the gap lengthens with bolt ons for the cl since tl's are far more limited by their exhaust setups. And no cl or tl is trapping 101-103 stock at sea level. I have pretty much every bolt on possible and trap 103 in my 6mt cl. Stock should be right around 98mph for both cars. I'll agree with you on the TL interior though aside from the most important part for me which is the CL's seats>>>
02-06-2015, 12:56 PM
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Perhaps in a straight line. If you include braking and cornering, the combination of all three being the real test of both car and driver, I think your auto tranny will be looking at tail lights.
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02-06-2015, 08:03 PM
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How exactly is your suspension better? Only difference is the TL front compliance bushings which has proven to fail prematurely. CL suspension is same design as CRX which is a proven design in track and autocross driving. CL can just swap on RL calipers or stoptech BBK and be just as good or better. The 3rd gen TL has the electronic braking that is not ideal for real performance driving. I don't really see the 3rd gen interior as better, unless you like a cracked dash. Acura quality has gone down every year since the late 90's.
CL has better head design with true headers.
No point saying one is better than the other except for building your EGO.
CL is also much cheaper to buy than a 07-08 TL Type S.
CL does not really have any competitors. Can't really think of any other fwd, big, 2 door coupes besides Accord. There are sedans like 3rd gen TL, Maxima, and Altima.
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02-09-2015, 06:35 PM
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Own both an '03 CL and an '08 TL. The front seats in the CL are much more comfortable than the TLs. My TL is just a base (no type-S). "Seat of the pants" feel definitely favors the stock CLS-6. The "drive by wire" throttle control on the TL makes it feel less responsive. I'm sure performance wise, both of these cars are rather close. But for my money I prefer the feel of the CL.
02-09-2015, 10:58 PM
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The G35 was my only other serious consideration but I had wanted a CLS6 for a long time. I wanted a backseat and winter drive ability. Ultimately it came down to price and the limited production. In hindsight I don't regret my choice but I have ended up parking it the winter and discovered the fun of track days so a G would not have been a bad choice.
I also have an auto 2005 TL and agree with Oldsman. They are different cars for sure. One much more fun to drive but the other a little more practical for my wife and the car seats if needed.
I also have an auto 2005 TL and agree with Oldsman. They are different cars for sure. One much more fun to drive but the other a little more practical for my wife and the car seats if needed.
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02-10-2015, 11:12 PM
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Top competitor under just those three criteria? I bought mine for $2800. There is no $2800 car I can think of that competes. I'm not crazy about the FWD aspect but I fucking love this car and I've had some pretty cool cars.
03-08-2015, 03:39 PM
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Lol I have a pocket full of cash I would use to bet otherwise. I have twin pot nissen calipers with ebc pads and rotors that stop better than your stock brembos AND Teins that laugh at stock suspension. Is a CLS the fastest car out there? Not by any means. But I guarantee I would whip a stock 3rd gen tl.
03-08-2015, 08:55 PM
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Lol I have a pocket full of cash I would use to bet otherwise. I have twin pot nissen calipers with ebc pads and rotors that stop better than your stock brembos AND Teins that laugh at stock suspension. Is a CLS the fastest car out there? Not by any means. But I guarantee I would whip a stock 3rd gen tl.
stock for stock they are very similar, even modded similarly it would be very close.
03-09-2015, 12:10 PM
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Also the cls 6mt is a unicorn. It was close when I bought mine between a 3rd gen tl a 95 legend coupe and the CLS. I went with the cl because its the rarest. But the legend is still on my list of cars I want to own.
03-09-2015, 02:41 PM
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GTO. Gonna cost more than a CL-s but its gonna be a hell of a lot faster and cheaper to mod.
03-09-2015, 03:02 PM
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When I was looking at cars I began w/ Cobras then extended that to z32TTs, M3s, and M5s. There was an M5 in the area that went down to $4g. It looked good but was a formerly totaled out rebuild and it was a future money pit. Also found an e46 M3 for $6G but it was too far away.
Twice the money but was it twice the car? Maybe.
A 400whp z32TT conversion in good shape for $5G but it came at the wrong time. I don't need 400whp anyway.
I'm satisfied with the CLs. I have to admit the power isn't as impressive now as it was at first. I hadn't driven a fast car since I sold the 240z several years ago. I had been driving a 3/4 ton 4.3 Chevy pickup for the previous 3 years and the CLs was like a rocket compared to that
Twice the money but was it twice the car? Maybe.
A 400whp z32TT conversion in good shape for $5G but it came at the wrong time. I don't need 400whp anyway.
I'm satisfied with the CLs. I have to admit the power isn't as impressive now as it was at first. I hadn't driven a fast car since I sold the 240z several years ago. I had been driving a 3/4 ton 4.3 Chevy pickup for the previous 3 years and the CLs was like a rocket compared to that
03-09-2015, 11:43 PM
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The m3 is a tail happy beast. I actually learnt how to drive stick on my friends dads m3. Soooo bad I kno i kno, but what's done is done.... I would love to buy one, but I am sure I'd get quite a few speeding tickets in that bad boy.
Extremely fun car to drive tho. In that mustard yellow color too... I loved it.. Most hate it tho
Extremely fun car to drive tho. In that mustard yellow color too... I loved it.. Most hate it tho
03-10-2015, 07:46 PM
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IMO i think the CL's interior was pretty sweet for it's time, almost clasic. With an interior angled towards the driver almost Supra/m3 like. And lets not forget about those seats!
I've sat in my fair share of seats working for car dealers and let me tell you something, the CL's are up there for comfort and support....Favorite feature of the car by far
I've sat in my fair share of seats working for car dealers and let me tell you something, the CL's are up there for comfort and support....Favorite feature of the car by far
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