difference between tire series? (40/45/50) - AcuraZine Community

Go Back   AcuraZine Community > AcuraZine CL Community > Second Generation CL Discussion
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Search

Reply
 
 
 
submit to reddit
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-07-2002, 3:21 PM   #1
Registered Member
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 266
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
difference between tire series? (40/45/50)

Hi,

This may sound like a dumb question, but how much would my wheel gap INCREASE between a:


225/45/18 and 225/40/18 ???


and also, how much difference between

215/50/17 and 225/4-/18

and also if you can..

205/55/16 and 215/50/17

and 205/55/16 and 225/40/18


the car is at STOCK height.

thanks
This ad is not displayed to registered or logged-in members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Acurazine!
__________________
-------------
Acura 2001 CL Type S, (black on black)
Acura 1996 CL (bronze on stove)http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=580221638&r=0&t=0
deadlyCL-S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 3:23 PM   #2
Cajun Gumbo Man
 
Fabvsix's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: California
Posts: 3,124
Thanked 27 Times in 20 Posts
Points: 15,189, Level: 79
Points: 15,189, Level: 79 Points: 15,189, Level: 79 Points: 15,189, Level: 79
Activity: 4.4%
Activity: 4.4% Activity: 4.4% Activity: 4.4%
calling EricL............
__________________
Current vehicles NOT previous ones!
2007 RDX TECH/PearlWhite/Ebony
2007 MDX SPORT ENTERTAINMENT BLack on Black baby!
2004 RL Navi/Black/Ebony (this one is a keeper for sure)
Traded:
*2001 CL Type S Black/Ebony w/NAVI,DOM: 01-2000 - number 187th off production line, 225/45/17ZR Bridgestone Pole Position S-03"s

** Converted to Z on 06-12-2002 **
Fabvsix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 3:28 PM   #3
Registered Member
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Lafayette, CO USA
Age: 70
Posts: 2,268
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
22.5 mm (almost one inch). for 225 (45 to 40 series).
215/50-17 is pretty close to 225/40-18
205/60-16 is close to 215/50-17 so 205/55 would be app 20mm less diameter (or more wheel gap).
__________________
Eat Safe, Use Condiments
CL - S
non-Nav, 35% tint, M5 driving lights, M4 map and door lights
ser. #09506. DOM 05/2000
Fox 5 wheels with Blizzak MZ-02 205/60-16 (Winter); SP5000 235/45-17 summer tires.
My other car is a '78 TA
CO-CL-S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 3:32 PM   #4
Banned
 
Pull_T's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: मुंबई, भारत
Posts: 5,830
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
225/45/18

225mm*.45*2+18"
8.85 inch*.45*2+18

25.97 inch tall total

225/40/18

225mm*.40*2+18"
8.85 inch*.40*2+18

25.08 inch tall total


(this is all based on whether the tiers specs are accurate
Pull_T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 3:32 PM   #5
Registered Member
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 266
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Threadstarter
Quote:
Originally posted by CO-CL-S
22.5 mm (almost one inch). for 225 (45 to 40 series).
215/50-17 is pretty close to 225/40-18
205/60-16 is close to 215/50-17 so 205/55 would be app 20mm less diameter (or more wheel gap).

how did you get those numbers?

how close would 225/40/18 be to stock?
__________________
-------------
Acura 2001 CL Type S, (black on black)
Acura 1996 CL (bronze on stove)http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=580221638&r=0&t=0
deadlyCL-S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 3:33 PM   #6
Registered Member
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Seattle
Age: 39
Posts: 1,750
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
225/50 -17

the mm in width/ the % of the width in height - the wheel diameter in inches.

width = 225 mm.
side wall height = 112.5 mm.
__________________

TLS
Song of the day
Car Stats
Closer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 3:36 PM   #7
Registered Member
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 266
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Threadstarter
THANKYOU!!

thats all i need to know
__________________
-------------
Acura 2001 CL Type S, (black on black)
Acura 1996 CL (bronze on stove)http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=580221638&r=0&t=0
deadlyCL-S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 3:42 PM   #8
Registered Member
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 266
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Threadstarter
ok so all these are correct sidewall numbers?

225/40/18=90
225/45/18=101.25
215/45/18=96.75
215/50/17=107.5
205/55/16=112.75
__________________
-------------
Acura 2001 CL Type S, (black on black)
Acura 1996 CL (bronze on stove)http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=580221638&r=0&t=0
deadlyCL-S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 3:44 PM   #9
Banned
 
Pull_T's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: मुंबई, भारत
Posts: 5,830
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally posted by deadlyCL-S
ok so all these are correct sidewall numbers?

225/40/18=90
225/45/18=101.25
215/45/18=96.75
215/50/17=107.5
205/55/16=112.75
Theoretically, yes. All manufacturers vary a bit on their measurments, though
Pull_T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 4:04 PM   #10
Registered Member
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Coppell, Texas, USA
Posts: 1,543
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 11,001, Level: 69
Points: 11,001, Level: 69 Points: 11,001, Level: 69 Points: 11,001, Level: 69
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
use this site http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
fender4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 4:14 PM   #11
Powered By HONDA
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Somewhere
Age: 39
Posts: 2,622
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
that is low profile.the lower the profile the tire is.the better handling u are going to get at conering..and the wider tire u get.the better handing u will get too..it is physic principle...if u want an object to be stable..first increase the base area.and second.lower the center the gravity..hope this might help u
__________________

2003 Honda Element E 4WD
(*)Fog Light (*) Splash Guard (*) Keyless Entry (*) Cargo Tray (*) Wheel Lock

2001 Acura CL Type S (Canada Model)
(*)Stock (*) Winter Floor mats (*) Wheel Locks (*) Full Bra

1992 Jeep Cherokee Sport Edition . 4 Doors . 4 Liter High Output Inline 6 Engine . 4X4 .
(*)190 HP@4600RPM & 225 LBS-F@3000RPM
(*)Auto Transmission (4 Speed) (*) Command Trac 4X4 (NP 231 Transfer Case)
(*)ABS Brake & LSD (*) AIWA MP3 Player

It's a Jeep thing , you wouldn't understand
Type S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 4:22 PM   #12
Registered Member
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 266
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Threadstarter
okay i cant decide...

I have 18x7 rims with 42 offset,

I wanna do a comptech Drop and...


225/40/18
or
235/40/18


my main concern is RUBBING...dont forget, I'm on a SEVEN inch wheel, not 7.5
__________________
-------------
Acura 2001 CL Type S, (black on black)
Acura 1996 CL (bronze on stove)http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=580221638&r=0&t=0
deadlyCL-S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 4:51 PM   #13
Fuct in the hed!
 
Nicky Pass's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Chicagoland-ish
Age: 35
Posts: 14,193
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Points: 36,520, Level: 100
Points: 36,520, Level: 100 Points: 36,520, Level: 100 Points: 36,520, Level: 100
Activity: 0%
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
If you change the wheels, you have to keep the stock diameter,

17" = 50 series

18" = 40 series

19" = 35 series

.................I THINK?????????
__________________
2003 Cobra Convertible (White with Tan Top)
2010 TSX (Polished Metal)
Nicky Pass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 5:02 PM   #14
My other car is a 350Z
 
H@mmerm@n's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: SacTown
Age: 53
Posts: 1,143
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally posted by deadlyCL-S
okay i cant decide...

I have 18x7 rims with 42 offset,

I wanna do a comptech Drop and...


225/40/18
or
235/40/18


my main concern is RUBBING...dont forget, I'm on a SEVEN inch wheel, not 7.5
I would defintely go 225-40/18 if you are planning on lowering, especially with the +42 offset. I just swapped out my 235-45/17 Toyo Proxes for 225-45/17 on my 17x8 wheels because of minor rubbing on the inside top of both front wheel wells (I am Comptech-lowered also).
__________________
2003 Chrome Silver 350Z Track
GRIP: NISMO S-Tune Suspension; NISMO sway bars; Michelin Pilot Sport 225/45R18 front, 245/45R18 rear; Stainless steel braided brake lines
GRUNT: JTW Clutch and Flywheel; Nismo Exhaust; Grounding kit
GLITTER: 3M clear bra; Llumar tint 20% rear / 50% sides; shorty antenna; various carbon fiber goodies
GO: Valentine1 hardwired
H@mmerm@n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 5:05 PM   #15
Registered Member
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 266
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Threadstarter
Quote:
Originally posted by H@mmerm@n


I would defintely go 225-40/18 if you are planning on lowering, especially with the +42 offset. I just swapped out my 235-45/17 Toyo Proxes for 225-45/17 on my 17x8 wheels because of minor rubbing on the inside top of both front wheel wells (I am Comptech-lowered also).

but i dont understand, doesnt the fact that your on a 8" wheel make any difference?

I am going on a 7" wheel...

does the width of the rim not matter?
__________________
-------------
Acura 2001 CL Type S, (black on black)
Acura 1996 CL (bronze on stove)http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=580221638&r=0&t=0
deadlyCL-S is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 5:27 PM   #16
My other car is a 350Z
 
H@mmerm@n's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: SacTown
Age: 53
Posts: 1,143
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally posted by deadlyCL-S



but i dont understand, doesnt the fact that your on a 8" wheel make any difference?

I am going on a 7" wheel...

does the width of the rim not matter?
I am no expert at this, but I think wheel width certainly does matter. However, with any given wheel width you have some lattitude to select tires of different width.

I believe most all tire sizes have an "optimal" and "acceptable" wheel width specified by the manufacturer. For the 235-45/17 Toyos I first bought, the "optimal" width is shown as 8", but a wheel width as low as 7.5 inches and as high as 9.0 inches is shown as acceptable. For the 225-45/17 Toyos I recently bought, the "optimal" width is 7.5", the minimum width is 7", and the maximum is 8.5.

Check out the Toyo website reference below, that is what I based my information above on (would expect it may be different for each tire manufacturer).

http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_specsheet.cfm?id=2
__________________
2003 Chrome Silver 350Z Track
GRIP: NISMO S-Tune Suspension; NISMO sway bars; Michelin Pilot Sport 225/45R18 front, 245/45R18 rear; Stainless steel braided brake lines
GRUNT: JTW Clutch and Flywheel; Nismo Exhaust; Grounding kit
GLITTER: 3M clear bra; Llumar tint 20% rear / 50% sides; shorty antenna; various carbon fiber goodies
GO: Valentine1 hardwired
H@mmerm@n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 5:33 PM   #17
337
 
CLUofI's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Iowa City/Des Moines
Posts: 3,253
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
go to www.tirerack.com they have info on everying you want.
__________________
02 VW GTI 337

Sold: 97 CL 2.2 5sp CL
CLUofI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 5:45 PM   #18
My other car is a 350Z
 
H@mmerm@n's Avatar
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: SacTown
Age: 53
Posts: 1,143
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally posted by CLUofI
go to www.tirerack.com they have info on everying you want.
Tirerack has some good info, mostly on wheel/tire combinations that THEY deem are acceptable for your car (which happens to exclude a lot of choices that would otherwise work fine). And try to get any specifics about wheel offset from their site or their telephone representatives...it's impossible.
__________________
2003 Chrome Silver 350Z Track
GRIP: NISMO S-Tune Suspension; NISMO sway bars; Michelin Pilot Sport 225/45R18 front, 245/45R18 rear; Stainless steel braided brake lines
GRUNT: JTW Clutch and Flywheel; Nismo Exhaust; Grounding kit
GLITTER: 3M clear bra; Llumar tint 20% rear / 50% sides; shorty antenna; various carbon fiber goodies
GO: Valentine1 hardwired
H@mmerm@n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 6:34 PM   #19
Registered Member
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Ninth Gate & So Cal
Posts: 7,397
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally posted by H@mmerm@n


I am no expert at this, but I think wheel width certainly does matter. However, with any given wheel width you have some lattitude to select tires of different width.

I believe most all tire sizes have an "optimal" and "acceptable" wheel width specified by the manufacturer. For the 235-45/17 Toyos I first bought, the "optimal" width is shown as 8", but a wheel width as low as 7.5 inches and as high as 9.0 inches is shown as acceptable. For the 225-45/17 Toyos I recently bought, the "optimal" width is 7.5", the minimum width is 7", and the maximum is 8.5.

Check out the Toyo website reference below, that is what I based my information above on (would expect it may be different for each tire manufacturer).

http://www.toyo.com/tires/tire_specsheet.cfm?id=2

There is a TON of confusion about what is the "optimal" rim size for a tire. Unfortunately, there are times when the measuring rim size (the number usually in the center and/or highlighted) is not the same as the optimal rim size.

The “Measuring Rim Size” denotes the rim width used by the manufacturer to test and provide all of the "data" for a given tire size/make (there are always going to be some exceptions). People assume that the measuring rim is the "optimal" rim size for the tire; in a number of cases, that is probably true. However, there are times when people who race for a living will use slightly wider or narrower rims for improved performance based on track times, etc…

For example, when I had my 235/45-17 Toyos on the 7" wide stock rims, they seemed to grip the road just as well as they do on the 8" wide SSR wheels (I bought the wheels for lower unsprung weight/lower rotational inertia). The tires have a measuring rim size of 8 inches (with minimum at 7.5" and max at 9")
__________________

Resident Devil's Advocate and Ex-Mega Moderator
Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
EricL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 6:53 PM   #20
Registered Member
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Ninth Gate & So Cal
Posts: 7,397
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally posted by H@mmerm@n


I would defintely go 225-40/18 if you are planning on lowering, especially with the +42 offset. I just swapped out my 235-45/17 Toyo Proxes for 225-45/17 on my 17x8 wheels because of minor rubbing on the inside top of both front wheel wells (I am Comptech-lowered also).

Caveat:


The 225-40/18s not produced by Toyo, Nitto, and a few others only have a load rating of 88. IMO, that is too low.

The Toyo and Nittos have a 92 load rating in the 225-40/18 (and a few other tire makers have a 92 rating -- check first).

A 225/45-18 might be a better choice when the 225/40-18's load rating (for that particular make and brand of tire) is only 88). (I am assuming that the tire is available in both sizes and that is not always the case.)
__________________

Resident Devil's Advocate and Ex-Mega Moderator
Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
EricL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 6:58 PM   #21
Registered Member
 
Trader Rating: (0)
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Ninth Gate & So Cal
Posts: 7,397
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Quote:
Originally posted by Nicky Pass
If you change the wheels, you have to keep the stock diameter,

17" = 50 series

18" = 40 series

19" = 35 series

.................I THINK?????????

17" --> 215/50-17 & 225/45-17 & 235/45-17 & 245/40-17 (depending)
18" --> 225/40-18 & 225/45-18 & 235/40-18 (225/40-18 - watch the load rating)
19" --> 235/35-19


(There are other sizes and options that I'm probably missing, but these represent the bulk of the sizes that have been used and work for members here. Some sizes will only work with non-lowered cars, certain offset, wheel widths, etc)
__________________

Resident Devil's Advocate and Ex-Mega Moderator
Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
EricL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 6:58 PM
AcuraZine
Acura Integra




Paid Advertisement


 
 
 
submit to reddit
Reply

Tags
225, 2254517, 2255017, 40, 45, 4550, 50, diference, difference, inches, low, miata, nitto, profile, series, ther, tires, weight

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 8:28 AM.



Honda and the Honda marquee are registered trademarks of the American Honda Motor Company, Inc. Neither American Honda Motor Company nor its subsidiaries or affiliates shall bear any responsibility for Acurazine.com content, comments, or advertising. Acurazine.com is not affiliated with American Honda Motor Company in any way. American Honda Motor Company does not sponsor, support, or endorse Acurazine.com in any way. Copyright/trademark/sales mark infringements are not intended or implied.
Passwords Backup