Formula One: 2014 Season News and Discussion Thread
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I'm not surprised by the outcome, but I was surprised by how it happened. I really didn't expect Nico to have those issues.
I was hoping Massa could steal first though. Hopefully McLaren and Williams are even more competitive next season.
I was hoping Massa could steal first though. Hopefully McLaren and Williams are even more competitive next season.
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Interesting fact made in the race, this is the first time since 1967 that Ferrari, Williams or a McLaren have not won a GP in the season.
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I think Nico was spot on when he said he can't blame the car for losing the WC. Lewis had him beat at the first corner and it looked like he would've been able to fend off any charge by Nico and if he couldn't, Lewis still would've finished 2nd and still won the WC. Great race, changes my perspective about the crown being passed at it
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Arrivabene replaces Mattiacci as Ferrari team principal
Maurizio Arrivabene replaces Marco Mattiacci as Ferrari team principal | Ferrari | Formula 1 news, live F1 | ESPN F1
Wow Mattiacci didn't last long
Wow Mattiacci didn't last long
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Maurizio Arrivabene replaces Marco Mattiacci as Ferrari team principal | Ferrari | Formula 1 news, live F1 | ESPN F1
Wow Mattiacci didn't last long
Wow Mattiacci didn't last long
EDIT: upon further thought, Marchione must've wanted Montezemolo out so bad he would put a guy like Mattiacci in for the interim. That is incredible given Montezemolo's results with Ferrari. At least Mattiacci's replacement is on the F1 Commission and has a long-standing history of working in F1. Mattiacci on the other hand, goes from hero to zero as the Scuderia wishes him "success in his future endeavors" obviously meaning he has no future with Ferrari. Ciao!
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Schumacher used to test 15-20Km a year at Ferrari, where they converted Enzo's old office into living quarters so he could walk back there and get a nights rest before starting up the next morning.
Vettel at Ferrari will be a interesting challenge for both parties. Ferrari has had so many come to Jesus events this year, they have to start looking inward to realize they F'ed up the great organization that Todt/Brawn/Bryne/Schumacher created and was very successful from 1997-2008.
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Check this out! hahaha, leave it to Top Gear. A Lotus F1 transporter jumps over an F1 car
Watch a truck jump over an F1 car - BBC Top Gear
Watch a truck jump over an F1 car - BBC Top Gear
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Saw that Friday afternoon & during a commercial during either the race or qualifying.
My wife thought it was fake at first.
My wife thought it was fake at first.
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Jenson Button Has A Chat With McLaren Head Ron Dennis
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Drivers and bosses tend to do that.
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^ oh yeah, that is typical but with Button's current circumstance it could be something then again just might be nothing....
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More Ferrari/Mattiacci thoughts
1. Did Alonso lose his seat because of Mattiacci?
2. Vettel signed to drive for Ferrari under Mattiacci and will answer to Arrivabene.
3. Arrivabene knows a lot of the F1 politicos but he knows very little about F1.
4. Ferrari has 1 new driver; new team principal and a car that was a minute behind P1 at the last 2 race finishes.
5. Vettel coming to Ferrari isn't going to change a thing IMO until the Scuderia gets a chassis that works and an engine that gains 40+ hp without any development, i.e.-ain't gonna happen in 2015
I've been following Ferrari for a very long time and this is the worst I've seen it in my memory.
2. Vettel signed to drive for Ferrari under Mattiacci and will answer to Arrivabene.
3. Arrivabene knows a lot of the F1 politicos but he knows very little about F1.
4. Ferrari has 1 new driver; new team principal and a car that was a minute behind P1 at the last 2 race finishes.
5. Vettel coming to Ferrari isn't going to change a thing IMO until the Scuderia gets a chassis that works and an engine that gains 40+ hp without any development, i.e.-ain't gonna happen in 2015
I've been following Ferrari for a very long time and this is the worst I've seen it in my memory.
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1. Did Alonso lose his seat because of Mattiacci?
Probably not, I think it was mutual for Alonso and Luca both.
2. Vettel signed to drive for Ferrari under Mattiacci and will answer to Arrivabene.
Shouldn't matter much
3. Arrivabene knows a lot of the F1 politicos but he knows very little about F1.
Very true, Briatore is a classic example of succeeding without F1 knowledge by being a type-A brutish manager but leaving all technical stuff to Brawn/Bryne at Benneton.
4. Ferrari has 1 new driver; new team principal and a car that was a minute behind P1 at the last 2 race finishes.
Bryne is back at Ferrari, but perhaps he needs more time. He probably also needs a Brawn type to isolate him and his team from meddling Ferrari management and Italian press.
5. Vettel coming to Ferrari isn't going to change a thing IMO until the Scuderia gets a chassis that works and an engine that gains 40+ hp without any development, i.e.-ain't gonna happen in 2015
I was surprised how bad the Ferrari motor performance was, especially with a long legacy of successful motors. The chassis is also a surprise since I woulda thought with more mechanical grip that the new Bryne assisted chassis would have been better. Kimi complained that the chassis never felt comfortable to him not matter what settings he changed.
I've been following Ferrari for a very long time and this is the worst I've seen it in my memory.
Probably not, I think it was mutual for Alonso and Luca both.
2. Vettel signed to drive for Ferrari under Mattiacci and will answer to Arrivabene.
Shouldn't matter much
3. Arrivabene knows a lot of the F1 politicos but he knows very little about F1.
Very true, Briatore is a classic example of succeeding without F1 knowledge by being a type-A brutish manager but leaving all technical stuff to Brawn/Bryne at Benneton.
4. Ferrari has 1 new driver; new team principal and a car that was a minute behind P1 at the last 2 race finishes.
Bryne is back at Ferrari, but perhaps he needs more time. He probably also needs a Brawn type to isolate him and his team from meddling Ferrari management and Italian press.
5. Vettel coming to Ferrari isn't going to change a thing IMO until the Scuderia gets a chassis that works and an engine that gains 40+ hp without any development, i.e.-ain't gonna happen in 2015
I was surprised how bad the Ferrari motor performance was, especially with a long legacy of successful motors. The chassis is also a surprise since I woulda thought with more mechanical grip that the new Bryne assisted chassis would have been better. Kimi complained that the chassis never felt comfortable to him not matter what settings he changed.
I've been following Ferrari for a very long time and this is the worst I've seen it in my memory.
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BTW, MBZ did a special S/W program for Lewis's steering wheel multi-function display. When he won the race and championship, they triggered a message that caused this on his display.
Mercedes surprised Hamilton with this steering wheel message - Autoblog
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Hamilton's tat:
Bernie's (back when he was a younger man):
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No matter what happens at McLaren next year, I'll be disappointed. It would be great to see Button have one more year racing, especially with Alonso as his teammate, but Magnussen really earned his seat this year IMO. He deserves a career with McLaren, not just one year at F1.
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No matter what happens at McLaren next year, I'll be disappointed. It would be great to see Button have one more year racing, especially with Alonso as his teammate, but Magnussen really earned his seat this year IMO. He deserves a career with McLaren, not just one year at F1.
Here's another way to think about it;
2013 2014
JB 73 126
Perez 49 59
Kmag - 55
If anything Kmag is in a worse position then Perez was in 2013, he's way behind his team mate. I get that Jense is getting old and doesn't have a lot of years left, but Kmag sure isn't ready to be the #2 in a Mclaren.
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Button's car set-up prowess and experience cannot be matched by a rookie and that is what McLaren need to succeed. He beat his team mate handily over the course of this year and should be given at least another year.
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https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014...iver-rankings/
Interesting analysis of drivers performance in 2014 and how they would rank excluding mechanical dnfs.
Interesting analysis of drivers performance in 2014 and how they would rank excluding mechanical dnfs.
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Mathematical Model of Drivers' Rankings 1-20
This is pretty cool and offers a lot of insight into driver's styles and ability to get points vs. their team mates.
Good read, salut! https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014...iver-rankings/
Good read, salut! https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014...iver-rankings/
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This is pretty cool and offers a lot of insight into driver's styles and ability to get points vs. their team mates.
Good read, salut! https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014...iver-rankings/
Good read, salut! https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014...iver-rankings/
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Double points system set to be ditched
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The Most Interesting Things For Sale At The Marussia F1 Team Auction
The Most Interesting Things For Sale At The Marussia F1 Team Auction
Hey, Xmas and Hanukkah are coming up
Hey, Xmas and Hanukkah are coming up
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Britain's Financial Times reports that Paul Walsh, former CEO of consumer goods conglomerate Diageo, is being lined up to become chairman of the Formula 1 board, which the newspaper says "could signal the beginning of the end of Bernie Ecclestone's control of the sport."
A board meeting is being scheduled for early next week to discuss Walsh replacing Nestlé chairman Peter Brabeck, who is undergoing medical treatment for an undisclosed illness, as F1 board chairman for two years, the FT reports.
Although Ecclestone's position as F1's chief executive would not necessarily change, the FT report says that CVC Capital Partners, the private equity group which owns 35.5 percent of F1, "is thought to want Mr. Walsh to take on some executive duties in addition to chairing the board."
The 84-year-old Ecclestone's grip on F1 was shaken earlier this year when he stood trial in Germany on bribery charges. The charges were dropped when Ecclestone agreed to settle the case for $100m, but it is believed that advisors to CVC regard Ecclestone as an obstacle to the equity group's long-delayed plans to float F1 on the stock market.
A board meeting is being scheduled for early next week to discuss Walsh replacing Nestlé chairman Peter Brabeck, who is undergoing medical treatment for an undisclosed illness, as F1 board chairman for two years, the FT reports.
Although Ecclestone's position as F1's chief executive would not necessarily change, the FT report says that CVC Capital Partners, the private equity group which owns 35.5 percent of F1, "is thought to want Mr. Walsh to take on some executive duties in addition to chairing the board."
The 84-year-old Ecclestone's grip on F1 was shaken earlier this year when he stood trial in Germany on bribery charges. The charges were dropped when Ecclestone agreed to settle the case for $100m, but it is believed that advisors to CVC regard Ecclestone as an obstacle to the equity group's long-delayed plans to float F1 on the stock market.
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No VAG in F1 unless . . .
Bernie goes or Ferdinand Piech goes.
BBC Sport - Volkswagen Group considering future Formula 1 entry
"VAG"
BBC Sport - Volkswagen Group considering future Formula 1 entry
"VAG"
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Ferrari's "Fire Everybody" Strategy Just Sacked Their Aerodynamicist
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Vettel and Raikkonen are sure to have a stellar 2015 I predict!
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Let's see....
Ferrari CEO - Fired
Ferrari Team Director - Fired Twice!
Ferrari Engine Designer - Fired
Ferrari #1 driver - Fired or Quit (take your pick)
Ferrari Aerodynamics Head - Fired
Rory Bryne must be nervous but I doubt he needs the money (supposedly pulling in $2M/year from Ferrari a decade ago when they were winning WDC and WCC like it was a formality)
Sebastian, it's gonna be a looooooooooooong 2015
Ferrari CEO - Fired
Ferrari Team Director - Fired Twice!
Ferrari Engine Designer - Fired
Ferrari #1 driver - Fired or Quit (take your pick)
Ferrari Aerodynamics Head - Fired
Rory Bryne must be nervous but I doubt he needs the money (supposedly pulling in $2M/year from Ferrari a decade ago when they were winning WDC and WCC like it was a formality)
Sebastian, it's gonna be a looooooooooooong 2015
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Good luck, Sebastian.
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Eh, it's a red car with a horse on it. That's worth 15hp right there.
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Bernie goes or Ferdinand Piech goes.
BBC Sport - Volkswagen Group considering future Formula 1 entry
"VAG"
BBC Sport - Volkswagen Group considering future Formula 1 entry
"VAG"
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Let's see....
Ferrari CEO - Fired
Ferrari Team Director - Fired Twice!
Ferrari Engine Designer - Fired
Ferrari #1 driver - Fired or Quit (take your pick)
Ferrari Aerodynamics Head - Fired
Rory Bryne must be nervous but I doubt he needs the money (supposedly pulling in $2M/year from Ferrari a decade ago when they were winning WDC and WCC like it was a formality)
Sebastian, it's gonna be a looooooooooooong 2015
Ferrari CEO - Fired
Ferrari Team Director - Fired Twice!
Ferrari Engine Designer - Fired
Ferrari #1 driver - Fired or Quit (take your pick)
Ferrari Aerodynamics Head - Fired
Rory Bryne must be nervous but I doubt he needs the money (supposedly pulling in $2M/year from Ferrari a decade ago when they were winning WDC and WCC like it was a formality)
Sebastian, it's gonna be a looooooooooooong 2015