Saintor

BMW kept the 3-series with no important change from 2012 to 2015 (4 years) and nobody whined. Audi and Mercedes did as bad or worse.

Definitely double standards (whatever the one convenient to your agenda).

TacoBello

The difference being that BMW, Audi and Mercedes built cars that targeted their key demographic seemingly well and also built cars that made their owners happy.

Acura seemingly fails on both of those fronts. Argue it all you want, but the amount of disgruntled owners and horrendous press isn't just a figment of our imaginations.

mk5

Acura is well-aware of what's going on with the TLX. Whether they act on the major issues (not cosmetic) or not is another story, but they for sure know. No telling how many Acura corp. employees read these forums.

I did a little project on the TLX Forums where we pooled a bunch of questions and sent them to Mat Hargett, who was then the TLX team lead engineer in Marysville. He couldn't "officially" answer
any of the questions (many of them were aimed at future design choices and transmission issues, etc.), but he did make it clear, in a general sense, that they are very aware of all the chatter about
the TLX.

Any update that is not cosmetic for the next year's model would [hopefully] be a welcome change, but they do like to drag their feet, don't they?

weather

^^ I am sure hoping they read these forums and they get how pathetic their attempt to bring Acura back to life after their failed design cues from the 2009-2014 era. At least, when the sheet metal was the major problem, that is relatively fixable, at least they gave us fun and reliable cars with manual. In 2014, they brought a decent looking TLX and robbed it of its juice....That is like giving us a good looking person with no sexual organs - You may be great looking but not enjoyable to ride of you get my drift

Saintor

So does Acura. According to 2016 data and despite your delusions, 78% of them would buy again. Count me in.

weather

^^ There is no denying that TLX had everything on paper to be a great car and offered lots of potential. We can all agree that the ZF 9 speed unit has been nothing but a thorn in Acura's management and dealers alike. I doubt that anyone from Acura would say that they are proud of the decision they made (at least in a situation where it would be kept confidential).

All the TLX needed was:

1. Better wheels
2. Better tires
3. A manual optional
4. A better auto tranny
5. More robust electronics

So as you can tell, the TLX isn't far off the mark but #3 & #4 have been enough to push people away from the brand - It is one thing to have a poorly designed/implemented tranny but then to play the buyers as if the car is working as designed, that is where they lost and pissed off lots of people.

...and some of the outsourcing has been a bit questionable too....not sure why but they seem to have gone to the lowest bidder.

BTW - I know I may come across as a whiner but I am not - I appreciate your contribution to Acurazine and while people were bashing Acura in 2009 for their TLX and TL, I was driving both and defending them too. I appreciate and respect your approach to the criticism and that you are always polite and contribute in a very positive way - that is what we need here Keep up the great and don't forget that we ALL (myself included) to see Acura pull it off, I want to have a TLX, I really do but we need to shake the top executives to wake up before its too late.....

KeithL

Actually Audi usually tweaks features almost every year, moving things from higher packages into either lower packages or standard equipment.

pyrodan007

If Acura would have done the same thing from 2015, people wouldn't be as upset and disappointed. Where they failed massively is to touch things that people didn't really care for and leave major disappointments untouched, even for MMC. Audi and BMW don't do major changes, but they do add features to trims yearly.

pyrodan007

Would love to see data for 2015 users, especially Canadians that don't have access to TSBs. Pretty sure a high % would have walked away / picked another car. I used to be happy to cross other TLXs on the road months after getting it. Now I think "which year does the poor bastard have?".

TheAcAvenger

Actually, for the 2013 year, the 3 series added an entirely updated nav interface with google. (They've done this several times between MMCs in the last decade actually). They introduced the awd versions in 2013, they introduced the activehybrid in 2013 as well. New optional wheels this year as well.

For 2014 they introduced the 328 diesel in rwd and awd variants, updated the nav again to include a new idrive controller with the touchpad.

Changes in 2015 were pretty minor. Hands free trunk closing on premium pack, different color intieriors and trims, new wheels on the m sport pack

It'll be a snowy day in hell before Acura just pops up with new engines between model years

boe_d

Probably because the BMW 3 series in 2015 was still a good looking car that sold well. I could understand not changing the TLX if it was a good looking car that sold well. I bet if you could double the sales of the TLX to match the 3 series there would be less "whining". Considering BMW has so many other series to compete with their own 3 series you'd think they'd be less than double the sales of the Acura TLX but nope - somehow BMW manages to do it.