question about udm
07-18-2008, 02:01 AM
#1
He who laughs, last didnt
Thread Starter
question about udm
will udm work well with zaino?
which udm pack should i get http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/s...tail&ct=65683?
can i put wax over zaino polish?
thx
which udm pack should i get http://www.prestostore.com/cgi-bin/s...tail&ct=65683?
can i put wax over zaino polish?
thx
07-18-2008, 07:46 AM
#2
i would buy the one with the 5.5" orange/white/red combo, and i would probably add an extra set of pads as well as a few other items that excel offers...
danase wetglaze
optimum polish
optimum poliseal
4 star upp....
i dont know anything about zaino products, so maybe someone else can chime in with info on that....
danase wetglaze
optimum polish
optimum poliseal
4 star upp....
i dont know anything about zaino products, so maybe someone else can chime in with info on that....
07-18-2008, 08:59 AM
#3
Burning Brakes
I've done my research and people say they have excellent results with Zaino stuff. They layer it on and keep layering and it seems like a race to see who has the most layers. Theres a ton of Z-# products and it gets confusing
I belive that with FSUPP and DWG, you get similar results, better durability, for alot less effort.
I belive that with FSUPP and DWG, you get similar results, better durability, for alot less effort.
07-18-2008, 11:44 AM
#4
Former Sponsor
Yeah I dont understand the Zaino hysteria either, but some folks swear by it. And as long as theyre protecting, thats whats important.
Maybe Im missing the boat, maybe I should be selling it also?
I dont believe they make anything for swirls though. Hide em, yeah. Remove em, no.
One other thing I never understood was if a product claims such greatness, why does it demand so many coats?
Like I said though, maybe its something I shoud be looking into............
Maybe Im missing the boat, maybe I should be selling it also?
I dont believe they make anything for swirls though. Hide em, yeah. Remove em, no.
One other thing I never understood was if a product claims such greatness, why does it demand so many coats?
Like I said though, maybe its something I shoud be looking into............
07-18-2008, 01:12 PM
#5
FTW
Originally Posted by exceldetail
Yeah I dont understand the Zaino hysteria either, but some folks swear by it. And as long as theyre protecting, thats whats important.
Maybe Im missing the boat, maybe I should be selling it also?
I dont believe they make anything for swirls though. Hide em, yeah. Remove em, no.
One other thing I never understood was if a product claims such greatness, why does it demand so many coats?
Like I said though, maybe its something I shoud be looking into............
Maybe Im missing the boat, maybe I should be selling it also?
I dont believe they make anything for swirls though. Hide em, yeah. Remove em, no.
One other thing I never understood was if a product claims such greatness, why does it demand so many coats?
Like I said though, maybe its something I shoud be looking into............
IMO stick with what you know. Why venture off
UPP / opti / DG are probably all you ever need really.
07-18-2008, 02:57 PM
#6
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by exceldetail
I dont believe they make anything for swirls though. Hide em, yeah. Remove em, no.
If your finish contains fine scratches or swirl marks, Z-5 Show Car Polish will safely fill and level minor imperfections. As you layer Z-5, these imperfections will disappear!
07-18-2008, 03:52 PM
#7
He who laughs, last didnt
Thread Starter
it sounds like udm wont work with zaino? or any of guys havent tried it together?
cause i recently brought there whole line of stuff and does a good job as they claim.. but the swirl is still there, i could see it in the right light angle and thought udm will help with that..
so my guess is, i need to get udm and some other things?
exceldetail: can you help me select the detail products i need with the udm.
cause i recently brought there whole line of stuff and does a good job as they claim.. but the swirl is still there, i could see it in the right light angle and thought udm will help with that..
so my guess is, i need to get udm and some other things?
exceldetail: can you help me select the detail products i need with the udm.
Trending Topics
07-18-2008, 06:39 PM
#9
Former Sponsor
Im not really familiar with Zainos products. It appears they are all just surface products, which you could just apply by hand....
Swirls really need to be attacked by polishes, and machine.
Swirls really need to be attacked by polishes, and machine.
07-18-2008, 09:30 PM
#10
He who laughs, last didnt
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by exceldetail
Swirls really need to be attacked by polishes, and machine.
i have no clue which one is should pick.. thx
07-18-2008, 09:43 PM
#11
Former Sponsor
bAek-sU, Im not sure of your swirls! However, yellow is for medium to heavy swirls, Orange for light to medium, White is for very light.. Find one of those that may suit your needs, then add/find the kit containing the black (for glazes and all in one type polishes/cleaners), and red (for sealant applications).
Optimum polish is for light swirls, Optimum Compound is for light to medium swirls, and the Hyper Compound is medium to heavy swirls......
Optimum polish is for light swirls, Optimum Compound is for light to medium swirls, and the Hyper Compound is medium to heavy swirls......
07-19-2008, 12:07 AM
#12
He who laughs, last didnt
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by exceldetail
bAek-sU, Im not sure of your swirls! However, yellow is for medium to heavy swirls, Orange for light to medium, White is for very light.. Find one of those that may suit your needs, then add/find the kit containing the black (for glazes and all in one type polishes/cleaners), and red (for sealant applications).
Optimum polish is for light swirls, Optimum Compound is for light to medium swirls, and the Hyper Compound is medium to heavy swirls......
Optimum polish is for light swirls, Optimum Compound is for light to medium swirls, and the Hyper Compound is medium to heavy swirls......
07-19-2008, 10:13 AM
#13
Former Sponsor
Sorry I cant be a little more specific, but, well, maybe if you had some pics that would help......I hate telling people what they need, as im not there in person looking at the problem, so its difficult.
einszett also comes to mind. Paint Polish for the more severe, Metallic polish for the lighter.
einszett also comes to mind. Paint Polish for the more severe, Metallic polish for the lighter.
07-21-2008, 03:18 AM
#14
Racer
Join Date: Jul 2008
Age: 37
Posts: 412
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by exceldetail
bAek-sU, Im not sure of your swirls! However, yellow is for medium to heavy swirls, Orange for light to medium, White is for very light.. Find one of those that may suit your needs, then add/find the kit containing the black (for glazes and all in one type polishes/cleaners), and red (for sealant applications).
Optimum polish is for light swirls, Optimum Compound is for light to medium swirls, and the Hyper Compound is medium to heavy swirls......
Optimum polish is for light swirls, Optimum Compound is for light to medium swirls, and the Hyper Compound is medium to heavy swirls......
Would you happen to have any pictures classifying light, medium, and heavy swirls? I'm thinking about picking up a UDM but I'm not sure exactly how bad the swirl marks on my car are. I'll try to take some pictures in a couple days. I have a few questions to:
1. How many polishing pads do you need to polish a car (say a TL)? Would one pad suffice for the whole car?
2. I see you're recommending Optimum polish. What about wax (or synthetic polymer?).
Basically I plan on doing a full detail on this TL I just purchased. Wash + clay, polish, wax/sealant. Would this be pretty much what I need to give it that absolutely clean/shine/wet look?
Or is there another "stage" of polishing I should look into. Thanks!
07-21-2008, 03:58 AM
#15
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by eluzion
Hey exceldetail,
Would you happen to have any pictures classifying light, medium, and heavy swirls? I'm thinking about picking up a UDM but I'm not sure exactly how bad the swirl marks on my car are. I'll try to take some pictures in a couple days. I have a few questions to:
1. How many polishing pads do you need to polish a car (say a TL)? Would one pad suffice for the whole car?
2. I see you're recommending Optimum polish. What about wax (or synthetic polymer?).
Basically I plan on doing a full detail on this TL I just purchased. Wash + clay, polish, wax/sealant. Would this be pretty much what I need to give it that absolutely clean/shine/wet look? Or is there another "stage" of polishing I should look into. Thanks!
Would you happen to have any pictures classifying light, medium, and heavy swirls? I'm thinking about picking up a UDM but I'm not sure exactly how bad the swirl marks on my car are. I'll try to take some pictures in a couple days. I have a few questions to:
1. How many polishing pads do you need to polish a car (say a TL)? Would one pad suffice for the whole car?
2. I see you're recommending Optimum polish. What about wax (or synthetic polymer?).
Basically I plan on doing a full detail on this TL I just purchased. Wash + clay, polish, wax/sealant. Would this be pretty much what I need to give it that absolutely clean/shine/wet look?
Or is there another "stage" of polishing I should look into. Thanks!
07-21-2008, 07:33 AM
#16
Former Sponsor
Great pics csmeance!
The only thing I can think of that may be missing, is the after wash protection (see #2) or midweek mini detail with a quick detailer.
Originally Posted by eluzion
Hey exceldetail,
Would you happen to have any pictures classifying light, medium, and heavy swirls? I'm thinking about picking up a UDM but I'm not sure exactly how bad the swirl marks on my car are. I'll try to take some pictures in a couple days. I have a few questions to:
Swirl severity is very subjective to the owner, also color plays a huge roll. Light swirls on a light color (white, silver) may indeed be medium swirls on another color! Id prefer swirls be graded on a different scale i.e.
Light : "I can live with these", or maybe "when I have time I'll address them".
Med: " I need to take care of these right away", (and then work on my wash and dry technique)
Heavy: "Glad thats not my car!"
1. How many polishing pads do you need to polish a car (say a TL)? Would one pad suffice for the whole car?
If the surface is dirty, you may need a couple. I did a Bimmer over the weekend, washed clayed, and began polishing. I didnt get 1/2 way through befoe having to change pads. There was just too much industrial fallout and the pad was just getting soiled. So I swapped it out. Really depends on the surface cleansliness I reckon.
2. I see you're recommending Optimum polish. What about wax (or synthetic polymer?).
2 different animals, one cleans, one protects. I really like the Four Star Ult Paint Protectant for sealants, followed up by Four Star Spray Wax w/PC or Duragloss Aqua Wax after washes.
Basically I plan on doing a full detail on this TL I just purchased. Wash + clay, polish, wax/sealant. Would this be pretty much what I need to give it that absolutely clean/shine/wet look? Or is there another "stage" of polishing I should look into. Thanks!
Would you happen to have any pictures classifying light, medium, and heavy swirls? I'm thinking about picking up a UDM but I'm not sure exactly how bad the swirl marks on my car are. I'll try to take some pictures in a couple days. I have a few questions to:
Swirl severity is very subjective to the owner, also color plays a huge roll. Light swirls on a light color (white, silver) may indeed be medium swirls on another color! Id prefer swirls be graded on a different scale i.e.
Light : "I can live with these", or maybe "when I have time I'll address them".
Med: " I need to take care of these right away", (and then work on my wash and dry technique)
Heavy: "Glad thats not my car!"
1. How many polishing pads do you need to polish a car (say a TL)? Would one pad suffice for the whole car?
If the surface is dirty, you may need a couple. I did a Bimmer over the weekend, washed clayed, and began polishing. I didnt get 1/2 way through befoe having to change pads. There was just too much industrial fallout and the pad was just getting soiled. So I swapped it out. Really depends on the surface cleansliness I reckon.
2. I see you're recommending Optimum polish. What about wax (or synthetic polymer?).
2 different animals, one cleans, one protects. I really like the Four Star Ult Paint Protectant for sealants, followed up by Four Star Spray Wax w/PC or Duragloss Aqua Wax after washes.
Basically I plan on doing a full detail on this TL I just purchased. Wash + clay, polish, wax/sealant. Would this be pretty much what I need to give it that absolutely clean/shine/wet look?
Or is there another "stage" of polishing I should look into. Thanks!
07-21-2008, 06:19 PM
#18
Former Sponsor
Originally Posted by bo0sty
whats a mid week mini detail?
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
navtool.com
5G TLX Audio, Bluetooth, Electronics & Navigation
31
11-16-2015 08:30 PM
DerrickW
3G TL Performance Parts & Modifications
9
11-15-2015 05:52 PM
