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What are the relative merits of a liquid paint cleaner (e.g. Meguiar's Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner) versus using a clay bar to clean a relatively new finish before polishing and sealing/waxing? Is one a substitute for the other?
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Cleaner removes oxidization etc ... clay bar removes contaminants like rail dust etc.
Cleaner removes oxidization etc ... clay bar removes contaminants like rail dust etc.
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Use both. Clay only takes 15 minutes!
I use Klasse AIO for a chemical cleaner. It's about as bulletproof as they come, although it is a little tough to remove by hand. If you have a PC, throw a MF bonnet over any pad and it's easy, plus the AIO leaves a great protectant on the CC. You can follow up with Klasse SG, another sealant, or your favorite carnuba.
I use Klasse AIO for a chemical cleaner. It's about as bulletproof as they come, although it is a little tough to remove by hand. If you have a PC, throw a MF bonnet over any pad and it's easy, plus the AIO leaves a great protectant on the CC. You can follow up with Klasse SG, another sealant, or your favorite carnuba.
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Paint Surface Cleaning
Vehicle manufacturer studies have shown that failure to remove environmental contaminants, like imbedded rail dust, acid rain, industrial fallout and other environmental contaminants from paint film can cause premature degradation of the paint system.
Schedule: annually, dependent upon environmental conditions and vehicle exposure but more often on light coloured paint. To optimize the reflective properties and appearance of the paint surface, it is best to regularly remove both imbedded and surface contaminants and dirt.
There are three distinct type; Abrasive, Chemical (solvent) and Chemical (neutralised acid)
a) Detailer’s clay is an abrasive the removes surface contaminants such as paint overspray, brake and rail dust (by shearing the particulates that protrude through the clear coat) paint oxidation, water spots that contain minerals, bitumen (tar) resin (sap) and other surface contaminants
b) Paint cleaners contain solvents that remove paint oxidation, bitumen (tar) resin (sap) bird and insect excrement, acid rain and water spots and other surface contaminants
c) Decontamination products remove acid rain, road salt, hydrazine an extremely active acid that is found in jet fuel, industrial fallout, and the imbedded (below paint surface) iron particles from brake and rail dust
As can be seen decontamination is not a replacement for detailer’s clay or a paint cleaner as they all perform different functions, but usually a combination is required for a pristine paint surface
Vehicle manufacturer studies have shown that failure to remove environmental contaminants, like imbedded rail dust, acid rain, industrial fallout and other environmental contaminants from paint film can cause premature degradation of the paint system.
Schedule: annually, dependent upon environmental conditions and vehicle exposure but more often on light coloured paint. To optimize the reflective properties and appearance of the paint surface, it is best to regularly remove both imbedded and surface contaminants and dirt.
There are three distinct type; Abrasive, Chemical (solvent) and Chemical (neutralised acid)
a) Detailer’s clay is an abrasive the removes surface contaminants such as paint overspray, brake and rail dust (by shearing the particulates that protrude through the clear coat) paint oxidation, water spots that contain minerals, bitumen (tar) resin (sap) and other surface contaminants
b) Paint cleaners contain solvents that remove paint oxidation, bitumen (tar) resin (sap) bird and insect excrement, acid rain and water spots and other surface contaminants
c) Decontamination products remove acid rain, road salt, hydrazine an extremely active acid that is found in jet fuel, industrial fallout, and the imbedded (below paint surface) iron particles from brake and rail dust
As can be seen decontamination is not a replacement for detailer’s clay or a paint cleaner as they all perform different functions, but usually a combination is required for a pristine paint surface
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Vehicle manufacturer studies have shown that failure to remove environmental contaminants, like imbedded rail dust, acid rain, industrial fallout and other environmental contaminants from paint film can cause premature degradation of the paint system.
Schedule: annually, dependent upon environmental conditions and vehicle exposure but more often on light coloured paint. To optimize the reflective properties and appearance of the paint surface, it is best to regularly remove both imbedded and surface contaminants and dirt.
There are three distinct type; Abrasive, Chemical (solvent) and Chemical (neutralised acid)
a) Detailer’s clay is an abrasive the removes surface contaminants such as paint overspray, brake and rail dust (by shearing the particulates that protrude through the clear coat) paint oxidation, water spots that contain minerals, bitumen (tar) resin (sap) and other surface contaminants
b) Paint cleaners contain solvents that remove paint oxidation, bitumen (tar) resin (sap) bird and insect excrement, acid rain and water spots and other surface contaminants
c) Decontamination products remove acid rain, road salt, hydrazine an extremely active acid that is found in jet fuel, industrial fallout, and the imbedded (below paint surface) iron particles from brake and rail dust
As can be seen decontamination is not a replacement for detailer’s clay or a paint cleaner as they all perform different functions, but usually a combination is required for a pristine paint surface
Hydrazine is used in Rocket Fuels, not jet fuel.Originally Posted by TOGWT
Paint Surface Cleaning Vehicle manufacturer studies have shown that failure to remove environmental contaminants, like imbedded rail dust, acid rain, industrial fallout and other environmental contaminants from paint film can cause premature degradation of the paint system.
Schedule: annually, dependent upon environmental conditions and vehicle exposure but more often on light coloured paint. To optimize the reflective properties and appearance of the paint surface, it is best to regularly remove both imbedded and surface contaminants and dirt.
There are three distinct type; Abrasive, Chemical (solvent) and Chemical (neutralised acid)
a) Detailer’s clay is an abrasive the removes surface contaminants such as paint overspray, brake and rail dust (by shearing the particulates that protrude through the clear coat) paint oxidation, water spots that contain minerals, bitumen (tar) resin (sap) and other surface contaminants
b) Paint cleaners contain solvents that remove paint oxidation, bitumen (tar) resin (sap) bird and insect excrement, acid rain and water spots and other surface contaminants
c) Decontamination products remove acid rain, road salt, hydrazine an extremely active acid that is found in jet fuel, industrial fallout, and the imbedded (below paint surface) iron particles from brake and rail dust
As can be seen decontamination is not a replacement for detailer’s clay or a paint cleaner as they all perform different functions, but usually a combination is required for a pristine paint surface