exceldetail

Nice Steve, nice !
This place gets new experts every week!! I love it!

flunkadelic

I just ordered some NRWS, mister, and a few other things from Exceldetail.com and I have to said their customer service is unbeatable. The order was flawless they had all of what I needed at a very competitive price. But best of all shipping was very very quick.

Thanks Pat!

steve9207

Not a problem, glad I could help! This product truly is a great find for those of us in rough winter climates. I hate not being able to wash in the cold 0 - 30 degree weather and letting the salt just sit on my car. This has solved that problem. The only negative, if you can even call it that, is the fact that I have to use one extra towel when drying because I can't use the sheeting method to get rid of most of the excess water. I also love driving by the neighbors new black G35x, covered in salt, while I have a freshly cleaned TL almost every day

Well thanks Pat, although I'm far from an expert in comparison to most here Although, I'd like to think I'm moving along from where I was when I got the TL in August. I just remember what it's like knowing how to do very little and I needing very detailed explanations to feel confident using certain products.

steve9207

Here we go guys, some more shots of Optimum NRWS in action.... This was quick wash tonight, I wanted a clean car for tomorrow, I couldn't stand all the salt on the side of the car. You can see I didn't do the wheel wells, but it looks 100 times better, IMO

THE CAUSE:





THE EFFECT:





PRE-TREAT (Half the door is sprayed to show effect of pre-treat):



THE RESULTS OF NRWS:

exceldetail

Oh damn! I think we need a NRWS b4/after pic thread!! Nice work! Best of all its easy!

steve9207

^^^

Thanks Pat. I was almost thinking of starting a new one, since I've added two sets of pictures to this one, haha. I've become addicted to this NRWS all of a sudden. When I first bought it in the summer, I didn't really use it because I could use the hose, now I use it once (sometimes twice a week )

5o9

Prolonged cold, ice everywhere, bucket wash impractical. Water is not draining.

Took the TSX to the local pay and spray. Preloaded garden sprayer with 2 oz ONR and one gallon water.

Used garden sprayer on dry car - about a half gallon. Let dwell a couple minutes while collecting & loading change for the self-serve. Micro drops lift off the dirt. The car was covered with salt, sand, and goose droppings.

Low pressure sprayed the car for three minutes.

Another half gallon from garden sprayer of ONR mix. Then high pressure spray for another three minutes. Got the car a little cleaner, second wash not necessary.

TSX is no way clean enough to dry with a towel. Plenty of spots need a bucket wash, too cold.

Drive around fast for a spot free ride. Is it clean? No. Does it look good? Yes (its silver). The pay and spray has some conditioned water that my tap can't compete with.

Time at the pay & spray was ten minutes. Their tunnel wash would have gotten the car cleaner, but likely with some scratching. Don't rub the car till its clean.

5o9

steve9207

^^^

5o9 - that's certainly a different method I haven't read about before. Can I ask you why you don't do the full wash many of us do at home? Pre-treat, wash as usual, MF WW dry?

Granted, you may be more prone to scratches than usual, but I think only if your car is in severely dirty condition. Plus, the way I look at it - the very minimal scratches you may get can easily be corrected with a UDM come Spring time or mid-winter when we get that very occasional warm day for a full wash. I'd rather correct a few very minor scratches come spring time than to let salt sit on the car for an extended period of time

I was with NRWS weekly at least, sometimes twice a week. Maybe because I do this, there is rarely much dirt on the car, certainly not like the salt covered picture I posted above.

Just my - I'm curious to hear your opinions though...

5o9

Just wanted 10 minutes at the pay and spray and enjoy a drive to dry. Certainly got the salt off, was left with a bit of road goo and goose droppings.

I'm happy, going to do it again tomorrow.

ILTomK

I used Optimum NRWS for the first time yesterday. I ran the car through a touch-less car wash first, primarily to get the salt off of the underside. Next time will just go to a spray it yourself place. Used a sheepskin mitt and two microfiber towels. Will try the garden spray technique first next time.

The NRWS worked just fine, car looks great. I also did a part of my wife's car. Her car had not been pre-washed. That part looks fine too. Ran out of time to do the rest.

One thing that impressed me that I haven't seen mentioned before. The cloths and the mitt were quite dirty when I finished, particularly the mitt. The amazing thing was how well things cleaned up and how quickly as well.

exceldetail

Another satisfied user!

SweetJazz

Joerockt: This is a little late but it did not dawn on me that your response was directed at me. Anyways, yes I usually only need to wash (water, bucket of soap, rinse, etc.) a couple of times during the summer. It rarely rains in No. CA during the summer. I keep my car so clean that a wash is not warranted. Note, my TL is not my primary automobile during the week and it is parked in the garage. I will commute in the TL-S twice per week which is 80 miles/day.

The process I use does not create marring although it is not possible to completely eliminate it if you drive your car on a normal basis. For paint, my normal maintenance arsenal consists of a wood handle CA duster, quick detailer spray, and loads of MF cloths. I will dust daily if necessary and use the quick detailer as needed when the duster is no longer effective.

joerockt

You'd be surprised to know that it rarely rains in SoCal as well

Yea, I would never use a duster as its just dragging dust and dirt over the paint. I'd rather spend the few extra minutes and use ONRWS once a week...But whatever works for you....

Eoanou

I have a question about the pretreat process, do you just spray the product with the appropriate ratio of water and that's it? Is there anything else involved?

I must say I am pretty much sold on this product, it'll save me time and as well as water too.

exceldetail

Follow the same ratio 1oz/1gal (if not more) of NRWS and water in the sprayer.......The theory behind this technique was derived after a rainstorm. I had noticed how the rains drop had presoftened the accumulated dust and debris, making for a safer, and easier removal at washtime. So I thought, "well why not mimick this with NRWS?"....The rest is history.......
NRWS:

• Helps encapsulate dust and debris
• Saves water
• Contains actual chemical polymers which bond to the paint providing lubricity
• 32 oz = approx 32 gallons of wash water
• Saves time, no need for hoses, and a rinse cycle.

nf3d0149ab

iTrader: (5)

I can't believe how good this stuff works.

Trips me out.

I didn't understand how it worked until I saw that video.

Thanks Patrick.

exceldetail

Your certainly welcome. I imagine your order arrived?

nf3d0149ab

iTrader: (5)

Well...technically I'm not supposed to know since it is after all...my Xmas gift.

nf3d0149ab

iTrader: (5)

So...one final question and hopefully it isn't too stupid of a question.

You mix the ONRW with the right ration of water in the spritzer.

You just spray that to the vehicle then wipe off?

Or...how does the spritzer come into play?

nf3d0149ab

iTrader: (5)

Disregard my dumbass previous post...

I was looking back over your thread Patrick and I'm looking for your page on NRWS techniques but the link is dead.

You still have this page around?

Didn't see it on your website either...maybe I'm missing something.

exceldetail

I dont know WTH is going on with Acurazine, but it seems like every winter season when NRWS use peeks, all the previous threads get lost. I just tried searching and NOTHING is coming up (are you listening AZINE?!)
Let me look around some other sites I posted it on and see if I can come up with a link......I remember doing the same thing last year as well.....

steve9207

Tell me about it, that's why I started Season 2 of NRWS...I couldn't find any of these posts from last year. And for some reason the search function wasn't working at all a few weeks back.

I was really trying to find the link on exceldetail.com showing the process with the sprayer for someone the other day...

exceldetail

I think this is what you were looking for??

steve9207

Pat - that's exactly what I was looking for - time to bookmark it I think. Thanks

JimiThng

the 'pre-soak' can this be substituted with a simple hose/spray down with a water hose or is this pre-soak solution a MUST? from what ive read and seen, W O W....

exceldetail

The presoak with a hose is good. The presoak with the NRWS is even better. The NRWS adds lubricants BEFORE you physically touch the car.......But if you can rinse debris away with a hose before the NRWS, thats a step in the right direction.

rlerman

In my view, using a hose defeats the purpose of the product. The product is designed to be used where a hose is not easily accessible or there are water restrictions. I've now used the product 5 times and I've found that spraying first and then wiping with an MF soaked with NRWS and water does an excellent job. In fact, i have to wonder why a traditional wash outside with a hose should ever be done. This product is that good and the results are as good or better than when I wash outside with a hose using Megs gold. I might just continue this process year round unless someone can convince me otherwise.

Denzil

iTrader: (1)

Well, a traditional wash can be fun if you have a foam gun or foam cannon. That's mainly the reason why I still like traditional 2BM washes.

nf3d0149ab

iTrader: (5)

I love foam cannons!

nf3d0149ab

iTrader: (5)

rlerman

While I don't know a lot about detailing or the NRWS...

I would imagine that you need to wash your car with water at some point...I don't know.

Sounds weird that you could use this all year long and not run any risk...but maybe you can.

nf3d0149ab

iTrader: (5)

And from what I understand...what also matters is how dirty your car gets.

exceldetail

You are absolutely right! And your method is certainly approved by myself at a minimum.
NRWS does have limitations, and a pressure wash with a nozzle and hose is certainly appropriate if the limits of NRWS have been exceeded. But........a pre rinse is usually adequate under most conditions, and it can be used all year long, in place of traditional methods. But the conditions have to present themselves as such! Its just like any other detailing product, it has its limits, and user error is possible!