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Old 04-06-2010, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by flyromeo3
your not supposed to cut the moleskin which is why you had glue streaks.

i was actually thinking if moleskin will hold up during the different seasons we have here in NY.

I have a feeling i'll be visitng your DIY link very soon. =)
even if i didnt cut it.. everytime the window went up and down the material would peal back and forth
Old 04-06-2010, 05:27 PM
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go to Michaels they have sheets of colored felt like $.99 per sheet i got 8 sheets
Old 04-19-2010, 03:02 PM
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what is moleskin? im getting my windows tinted this week. it this that necessary? and how much extra does this cost to have installed? ever car ive owned has been tinted 20% and ive never had problems with scratches..
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I bought them, never used them, 2.5 years later still fine

If you don't clean your car regularly, and live in a dusty environment..get moleskin..otherwise..keep on rocking
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I didn't get moleskin and my tints scratched less than a week after I had them put on. Very hard to notice, but if you really look you can see them. I'm going to see if I can get this done myself.
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^...

Took my less than an hour to get them on all 4 doors.
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I have moleskin but my tints still got scratches. I have 3M tint film too. I think dust is what causes the scratches.
Old 04-21-2010, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
I bought them, never used them, 2.5 years later still fine

If you don't clean your car regularly, and live in a dusty environment..get moleskin..otherwise..keep on rocking
Probably true. As I posted earlier, I went without moleskin for a quite some time and nothing was scratched. Only reason I put the moleskin on was because another member was selling it cheap.
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I've had 35% tints for the last 2yrs with no moleskin. Still looks good after 2yrs. No scratches that I can see.
Old 04-21-2010, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by flyromeo3
^...

Took my less than an hour to get them on all 4 doors.

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Old 04-21-2010, 09:34 AM
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When I was considering tint, I went to three shops around here, and they hadn't even HEARD of moleskin.

Just as well. As most people get older, they need MORE light, not less.

So I traded lookin' good for safety.
Old 04-21-2010, 10:35 PM
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I've had tint without moleskin for over 3 years now and have no problems with scratches. I live in the dusty Las Vegas desert and I roll my windows up and down ALL THE TIME! My tint guy said moleskin was a scam and I believe him. He said all you need is a good quality tint.

I don't know the brand he uses...
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Old 04-23-2010, 03:41 PM
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Hey Guys, new to the Forum i just purchased an 07 Silver TL in the ATL with Black interior, 24k miles no navi, two weeks ago, love it so far!!

I see some clean TL's on here just need some advice on tint, MUG your Silver TL looks really clean. Can anyone post some pics of a Silver TL with tint? not sure if i want Carbon and what % i want

Thanks for the help, also looking forward to joing the forum
Old 07-13-2010, 01:30 PM
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what exactly is scratching the tints? is there a DIY fix for this?
Old 07-13-2010, 01:45 PM
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GET MOLESKIN...better be safe than sorry...I didnt and now Im going to have to get retinted...$300 down the drain
Old 07-13-2010, 04:49 PM
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No moleskin and no issues with my new tint
Old 07-13-2010, 04:55 PM
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i didnt do moleskin and i have scaratches
Old 07-13-2010, 05:20 PM
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Damm this is my second time doing tints I will be definiftly buying moleskin and changing my tints to 5%
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I didn't get moleskin originally.

I was stupid.

I have huge scratches up and down all 4 windows. They're deep and obvious enough to catch your nail on if you skim your finger over them

I installed moleskin (pretty easy just time consuming taking door panels off) and will be getting retinted soon.

This was a 185$ mistake & lesson learned.


Edit: Fail thread revival. lol
Old 04-03-2012, 08:12 AM
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i had moleskin installed,only on the front 2 windows since i rarely have people in the backseat. i would advise to use it, tint is too pricey to skip out on it. also a couple times a month, i clean the edges of the seals with a wet microfiber cloth,no scratches yet.
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:06 AM
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Since this thread has been revived and I'm supposed to be getting tint this Thursday I wanted to ask whether the moleskin should be installed prior to tinting or after. I was thinking if it was on prior to tint installation the tint guy might damage the moleskin manipulating the channel. But after the tint is installed you would have to roll the windows down to install the moleskin and then run the risk of scratching the new tint?
Old 04-03-2012, 10:08 AM
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I would think if the tint has warranty they should honor it and retint the car. My driver side now has 1 scratch. I am going to clean the window sills. Whats the best way to do this?
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I dont think mine has it, it had the tint from the last owner... There are no scratches though. My last TL did have scratches like a bitch though, so when I retint I will put it on there, or cut off the seal that scratches the tint-- does anyone know of any disadvantages to cutting it out? Wind noise, water leaking, windows falling out of tracks???
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I'm getting my car tinted this friday and definitely getting moleskin after doing all this reading lol
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you should get it. I didnt get it, and have some small vertical scratches. Luckily though the window that has it has a tint defect from when they put the tint on in the front corner (barely noticeable). The previous owner did have them tinted but had to remove due to a ticket and I was hoping they had left the skin in.

I'll just have them do it under workmanship warranty when I feel like it.

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Old 04-03-2012, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Aretardedorange
I would think if the tint has warranty they should honor it and retint the car. My driver side now has 1 scratch. I am going to clean the window sills. Whats the best way to do this?
If you are taking your door panel off to clean it, it makes no sense to just clean it... You might as well install moleskin while you are at it because cleaning it isn't going to solve the problem. 2 months later down the road it'll get dirty and scratch again. Install moleskin and your tint will be scratch free with no need to clean it for 5+ years.

Originally Posted by Aretardedorange
No moleskin. Its been fine. Rolled windows down 15-20 times already.
Originally Posted by vietxquangstah


Rolling your window 15-20 and no scratch doesn't mean your tints aren't going to eventually get scratched.

When I got my windows tinted back in february (valentines day) everything seemed just fined. I used to deliver pizza back then and I would always roll my windows down to prevent the smell of pizza in the car.

Scratches didn't start showing up til about a good 2-3 months later.

So just because you rolled the windows down a few times and haven't got scratches yet, it doesn't mean you won't get scratches down the road.

If I were you, I'd recommend you to get felt/mole skin installed asap before it's too late and you'll have to go through the hassle of getting your tint redone.

Since it's winter, you won't really be rolling your windows up and down as much as you would during the summer, so for now you should be fine. But as soon as temperatures start to rise and you start rolling your windows down on a daily basis and scratches start to form, don't come back here and say I didn't warn you!

"Everyone" says to get it because they are the ones driving the car and have first-hand experience of having the tint get scratched on them eventually (I'm one of them)

The "tint guys" say no because it's more shit for them to do and if you don't get it installed, and it WILL scratch, than you will have to go back to the "tint guys" and get it redone which means you'll have to pay them again which means they make more money off you. (If you don't have lifetime warranty that is. If you have lifetime warranty than they should redo it for free. But in the end, it's still a hassle to drive back out and wait several hours to get the tint re-done when it all could have just been prevented by getting felt/moleskin installed the first time around)

Either go to a reputable tinter or get it done the first time around. My stupid ass went to a dumb ass tinter and paid $300 w/ lifetime warranty but didn't get felt installed because no one on acurazine mentioned it at the time, and the tint installer didn't even mention it at all or even offer me the service. Now I have scratches on my front 2 windows.



From what I've read, Honda/Acura are notorious for having window tint scratches later down the road after getting tint installed w/out felt/moleskin.

Get felt/moleskin installed and call it a day. End of story.

Originally Posted by Aretardedorange

I personally don't think you need moleskin. I have several friends who have 3G TL and got their car tinted by this guy 2-3 years ago and they roll their window down frequently....no scratches. I barely roll my windows down....even in the summer I do not roll them down unless I need to. Those 15-20 times was on purpose to see if it would scratch. Nothing happened.
Hate to say it, but I warned ya
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:52 PM
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My installer stopped installing moleskin but modified some inner lining strip that causes the scratches he said. He also mentioned it would be a good idea to just spray some water into the inner windows from time to time. I haven't sprayed the water but am scratch free for about 8 months now.
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I got one on my driver side window..it's just one down the middle. I've never heard of moleskin before lol...interesting...i'm thinking about upping up the tints on my front windows anyway..i shall do this after! thanks
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Originally Posted by BrownBuck
I got one on my driver side window..it's just one down the middle. I've never heard of moleskin before lol...interesting...i'm thinking about upping up the tints on my front windows anyway..i shall do this after! thanks
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On the left, moleskin installed on the window things (idk what its called haha)



A roll of mole skin being cut to be installed.

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Old 04-03-2012, 07:09 PM
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No moleskin on mine. almost 6 years and only one scratch on rear window.
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The moleskin (felt) is applied to the weatherstrip (pictured above).

I definitely recommend it.
I got my tint done 2 weeks ago, and still havn't rolled down my windows so I can't comment on personal experience with moleskin.

If the shop knows the TL (my shop did!), they would know that it needs moleskin.

My shop installed my moleskin for free, telling me it would have usually cost $10 per door.
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35% 3M tint for about a year, no moleskin.

Got scratches about 2-3 weeks after installation. Very very fine hairline scratches, almost unnoticeable. Predominantly on the rear passenger windows. I was upset at first, installer did not provide option for moleskin. But it is really so small that I don't even realize they are there usually.
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I spoke with a well know and recommended window tint man yesterday.

I did not bring up moles skin but right away when he saw my car he explained to me that these year TL's were known to scratch tint up due to the plastic that rubs on the inside part of the window.

He said over the years he had tried felts on it and had mixed reviews.

He recommended that he just remove the plastic. Said there would be a gap but it will not affect the window operation.

Has anyone here ever done this or had it done ? Thoughts ?
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4 years of owning 3G TL's ('04 and now an '08 TL-S), neither one had scratches in the tint. Both times I had 20% ceramic tint all the way around (except windshield).
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Originally Posted by Jtai
I spoke with a well know and recommended window tint man yesterday.

I did not bring up moles skin but right away when he saw my car he explained to me that these year TL's were known to scratch tint up due to the plastic that rubs on the inside part of the window.

He said over the years he had tried felts on it and had mixed reviews.

He recommended that he just remove the plastic. Said there would be a gap but it will not affect the window operation.

Has anyone here ever done this or had it done ? Thoughts ?
Don't do it!
When I first got my car, the dealer had to replace my door panel due to it being scratched. I picked the car up and everything looked fine. I returned the next day because the wind noise from that side was very noticeable, also you could look down into the door while the window was up ( big gap).
Turned out they hadn't switched that piece of plastic your tint guy is referring to , over to my new door panel.
So removing that piece= big gap and noticeable wind noise.
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I have minor scratches on all windows so far worse one is rear passenger with a noticeable line cut. Best thing I can do with no comPromises is?
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Don't do it!
When I first got my car, the dealer had to replace my door panel due to it being scratched. I picked the car up and everything looked fine. I returned the next day because the wind noise from that side was very noticeable, also you could look down into the door while the window was up ( big gap).
Turned out they hadn't switched that piece of plastic your tint guy is referring to , over to my new door panel.
So removing that piece= big gap and noticeable wind noise.
Wow thanks for the heads up. Not sure what to do now. I talked to another tint shop and they wanted to charge $30 a window for felt install.

After reading everyone's problems with tint on these car it makes me not even want to do it.

I sure hate the clear glass though and summer is coming
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Wow thanks for the heads up. Not sure what to do now. I talked to another tint shop and they wanted to charge $30 a window for felt install.

After reading everyone's problems with tint on these car it makes me not even want to do it.

I sure hate the clear glass though and summer is coming
Just keep looking around for another shop that will do it with moleskin for the right price.

OR

Get it tinted without moleskin and install moleskin yourself. It's just felt on the weather strip.
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Just get moleskin better to be safe
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