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Top Speed of stock 07 TL type-s 5at is 132-133mph

 
Old 05-13-2008, 12:21 PM
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Ok I am in contact with a local tuner who specializes in Japanese Imports.

http://www.batlground.com/

And hopefully they can find a solution. Said they would give me a call back.

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Go get a Regular trim 5AT if you want the highest top speed. The highest people have reported on the regular 5AT 3rd cars is at around 155+ mph.

Or go get a 6MT regular TL. Their "governed" top speed is 152mph. Also people are actually getting similar results.


Trade in your car man.
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Originally Posted by don5504
Ok I am in contact with a local tuner who specializes in Japanese Imports.

http://www.batlground.com/

And hopefully they can find a solution. Said they would give me a call back.

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The TL isn't a import
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Originally Posted by korrupted
The TL isn't a import
I wont argue semantics with you.

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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
Go get a Regular trim 5AT if you want the highest top speed. The highest people have reported on the regular 5AT 3rd cars is at around 155+ mph.

Or go get a 6MT regular TL. Their "governed" top speed is 152mph. Also people are actually getting similar results.


Trade in your car man.
I am really considering it if I can't find a solution.

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Still don't really understand why it's so important for your TL-S to go 150 mph?
Are you planning to race it?
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Originally Posted by korrupted
The TL isn't a import
Last I checked Honda was a Japanese company and we are in America.
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^^^

TL - built and assembled in Ohio.

Only the tranny on the TL-S is imported from Japan.
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Old 05-13-2008, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by korrupted
Still don't really understand why it's so important for your TL-S to go 150 mph?
Are you planning to race it?
Maybe he plans on robbing a bank in LA, and wants to out run everyone.
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I'm just here to put in my experience, I have a 08 TL-S 5at w/ CAI & 3rd cat delete and my car sits at about 133 and dosnt move at all. VSA was on, not sure if that makes a difference but just my experience. Kinda disapointed seeing a Base Model 5at TL do 140....
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Originally Posted by korrupted
Still don't really understand why it's so important for your TL-S to go 150 mph?
Are you planning to race it?

I don't either. Assuming it is proven to be electronically/ECU limited to 135-ish I do find it mildy annoying/irritating ( ) that of ALL the 3G TL/TL-S trims, ONLY the TL-S 5AT is limited to at that lower speed.

I mean, WTF?? It's like I got gipped.

Even though I'll probably never need it. Even though I've only been over (slighlty) 100 mph once. Even though if I track the car it's unlikely to have a straight long enough to get over 135. Even though .... .




(".... Assuming it is proven to be electronically/ECU limited to 135-ish ...." .

No that is NOT a flame or an arguement, etc. You have an excellent theory (TL/RL) and are building/have built a solid experimental base to support that theory. The last thing to put this to bed once and for all, to prove the theory beyond all doubt, is to "hack" the ECU and see what the limiter is actually set at.)
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Old 05-13-2008, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by korrupted
Still don't really understand why it's so important for your TL-S to go 150 mph?
Are you planning to race it?
Its about personal choice and my desire to do so. Do I really need any more reason than that? Why mod your car at all? Is it important for your TL-S to reach 0-60 .2 seconds quicker? Again the answer is no. Just like the answer to "is there a need to go faster than XXXmph is no. There is never a need is it important on the grand scheme of things? No again. And yes I may track it occassionally. Atlanta motor speedway is open to the public certain times of the year same with Road Atlanta. But thats really not important right now.

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Originally Posted by CBP TL-S
I'm just here to put in my experience, I have a 08 TL-S 5at w/ CAI & 3rd cat delete and my car sits at about 133 and dosnt move at all. VSA was on, not sure if that makes a difference but just my experience. Kinda disapointed seeing a Base Model 5at TL do 140....
Thanks for stopping by I believe you are # 4 or 5 with an 07-08 tl type-s that is limited to 13Xmph.

I have yet to find a solution but I ended up ordering a factory service and electrical manuals to see if I can't come up with something on my own.

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don5504...in a way I'm glad this thread is here...

At least I know now that I'm an automatic loser in a race in my 08 TL-S/AT....
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
don5504...in a way I'm glad this thread is here...

At least I know now that I'm an automatic loser in a race in my 08 TL-S/AT....
Nice pun.

But I figure I'll try somethings out 1st but if it starts to get too expensive to find a solution then I am probably going to ditch the car or give it to the old lady so she can drive it and then trade in her older car for a different one for me!

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alrighty, i guess i felt the need to do my part and commit a felony...i ran smack dab into a wall at 130somthing....i did this by the way on a runway at an airport i will leave unnamed...very secured....
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your car doesnt like you.
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Originally Posted by vinnier6
alrighty, i guess i felt the need to do my part and commit a felony...i ran smack dab into a wall at 130somthing....i did this by the way on a runway at an airport i will leave unnamed...very secured....
Congrats! my friend! Thanks for taking your time and actually doing this.

So we have another person who topped out at 134'ish.

Maybe we should start including the time of vehicle purchase too, or better, the manufacture date... Just a thought.


Btw, sorry about the harsh comment in my previous post to you earlier. Meant no harm.


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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
Maybe we should start including the time of vehicle purchase too, or better, the manufacture date... Just a thought.
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1. ifirahse....2008 TL Type-S 5AT, bought 2/08.
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
Congrats! my friend! Thanks for taking your time and actually doing this.

So we have another person who topped out at 134'ish.

Maybe we should start including the time of vehicle purchase too, or better, the manufacture date... Just a thought.


Btw, sorry about the harsh comment in my previous post to you earlier. Meant no harm.


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Sounds like a good idea. Maybe Vin # would be a better method?

19UUA76567A004053

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^ That sounds like an idea.
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Originally Posted by don5504
Sounds like a good idea. Maybe Vin # would be a better method?

19UUA76567A004053

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Yea, that's an idea.

We could add information such as this:

1. ifirahse (user) - 2008 TL Type-S 5AT (Year, Type-S 5AT only) - bought 2/08 (or manufactured date) - VIN # xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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Lots of haters but the 4 pages was a nice read. Interested in seeing how this turns out despite owning a 05 auto.
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1. ifirahse (user) - 2008 TL Type-S 5AT (Year, Type-S 5AT only) - bought 2/08 (or manufactured date) - VIN # xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


2. don5504 - 2007 TL Type-S 5at - in service date 1/07 bought by me on 3/08 19UUA76567A004053

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production date 4/07, purchase date new 10/07...vin19UUA76517A033248
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I would still like to confirm that the 07-08 tlp with 5at are limited to something different or the same as us. For you out there with a 07-08 tlp please speak up.

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I have gotten up to 153 ish with my 05 TL 5AT.

btw, didn't read the whole thread.
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^ That's a good idea. I'm open for it as well.

Once we get more data I'll start put em on excel spreadsheet....... and post it here.

so pls keep postin'.



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1. ifirahse (user) - 2008 TL Type-S 5AT (Year, Type-S 5AT only) - bought 2/08 (or manufactured date) - VIN # xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


2. don5504 - 2007 TL Type-S 5at - in service date 1/07 bought by me on 3/08 19UUA76567A004053

3. CBP TL-S - 2008 TL Type-S 5AT - Bought 04/08 19UUA765XA8040071
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Too lazy to read through the whole thread, but where is the tach in all this madness? I remember on my old Prelude, there was a fuel cut-off to the engine when the RPMs reached a certain point. I'm guessing you might have hit that cut-off point.
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Thanks CBP TL-S for your input. Keep them coming. I will enter all data. Did yours top out at 133/134 mph? Please include the top reported speed too thanx.


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Sky is the limit....but apparently for some you the limit is the sky

Pay attention to the tach....gets pretty boring. My foot is flat on the floor for the length of the video. The needle kept moving(pulling) until it gets close to 130 and its where the tach stops dead cold at 5250 RPM.



You got to add 1.3% because of the tire size difference from stock to my aspecs. So 131-132 on the speedo is more like 133-134 actual speed. Don't know what all of you guys have on, but if the diameter of your wheels is different from stock then actual speed(well as measured by Acura anyway) is going to be off.
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I think if somebody grabs the ECU from an RL and the ECU from a Type-S auto, you might find them to be awfully similar, similar maps, similar limits? So same engine, same tranny, similar exhaust?, and it's pretty easy to just reuse the ECU from the RL.....not sure if the SH-AWD even comes into play as far as the ECU goes, could be minor.

The RL doesn't have a manual, so I'm guessing it wasn't as easy and thus they either started from scratch or they adapted the 3.2 TL's ECU and kept the higher governor.
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Originally Posted by jguerra23
i pushed my base 07 140......just fine
Ditto on my 04' still pullin at 140, that was enough
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Pay attention to the tach....gets pretty boring. My foot is flat on the floor for the length of the video. The needle kept moving(pulling) until it gets close to 130 and its where the tach stops dead cold at 5250 RPM.



You got to add 1.3% because of the tire size difference from stock to my aspecs. So 131-132 on the speedo is more like 133-134 actual speed. Don't know what all of you guys have on, but if the diameter of your wheels is different from stock then actual speed(well as measured by Acura anyway) is going to be off.
y didn't you shift to 5th gear?
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^^^ I'm sure he was in fifth...
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
^^^ I'm sure he was in fifth...

The vid shows "4" in the SS gear box. I don't think 5th would've mattered.

What's odd is that is does not appear to act like a fuel cutoff.

In TL4play's video's when he hits the top speed limiter, the car actually stops supplying fuel for a second and then re-engages when the speed drops back from the max. That was true in his 6th gear also, even though he was only running ~5,500 rpm.

What that video looks like is that the car is running very smoothly, with no ECU/ECM interference, at 130 MPH. Maybe it's in the vid and I just missed it. How did it feel jokerunm?

How do the other trim/year Auto's feel/act when they hit the speed limiter? Is a smooth, the car won't go any faster feeling or a jerky, the car just cut off the gas feeling?
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^^^ my fault, I didn't see the video

Just saw the video, this is BS....why would they limit it like that.
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i dont know for sure, but if he was floored and the car didnt have enough power to reach redline in 4th, then it wouldnt matter if he shiffted to 5th...in theory, the car would be slower in 5th....
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I couldn't get the video to play on joker??
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