FLOORED

i have an 07 with 56k. its time to shop around for a timing belt replacement obviously.
i called philadelphia honda and they are having a special on timing belt replacement for $499 for honda and $549 for acura. i called and the service advisor said that the price is correct but this an extra $140 for the oil seals. this is a first time i have heard about oil seals being replaced. is this a necessarry operation especially with only 56k. he also said its an additional 100 for the serpentine belt. i checked and rockauto has the serpentine belt for $24.00.

ggesq

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Personally don't think you need to do the TB job until you get the "4" in your MID.

polobunny

I'm always wondering myself.
Technically, it's 105K maintenance, but depending on conditions it might be worth assessing the state of the belt if it's been 7+ years or the car was exposed to extreme temps.

ggesq

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I doubt it gets over 110 or under -20 in Deleware where then OP has to drive in those conditions regularly. Inspections are always a great idea.

polobunny

I'd lie if I said I knew anything about Delaware.

FLOORED

the coldest its been around here is 0 and the hottest i have ever encountered is 101

FLOORED

my question is do the oil seals need replacement when the timing belt is replaced or is the dealer trying to upsell the job as usual

TheChamp531

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Technically, it is not.

polobunny

Guess I should have wrote "generally agreed upon". For most people sub-item 4 pops up between 100K and 110K nevertheless.

That said, I don't think I've heard or read of people snapping timing belts on the TL if they are under 110K and not exposed to extreme conditions.

06TLMatt

Mine is at 123k miles going strong, no 4 yet on the MID , but I picked up the Timing Belt and Water Pump kit last week so I can do it sometime in the next month.

erdoc48

If I may interject...my dad currently drives a 1995 Accord- is somewhere near 250k miles with the belt never changed- unfortunately, it broke a few days ago (he's not great for maintenance on a car)- anyway, it's a testament to the longevity of the belts in these cars. To the OP, you can do the service early if you want, but 56K miles is a little early. My brother did his on my old 00 TL at 140K miles and he said it looked new when it was removed. I'm not saying to wait excessively to do the work, just that you can save your money for now and wait a bit to do it.

UTAH TSX

Don't touch the seals if they are not leaking very uncommon to leak on a J series
take a trip to Utah I would love to do your timing belt

Yikes

You guys are so lucky when it comes to finding cheap deals with the TB service.

Brown Honda in Charlottesville wanted $800 for the service. They have a bad rep so I went to a place I trust and they did it for $1100 :\

The cheapest place that would do it in my area was for ~$600, and that was re-using tensioners and pulleys.

paperboy42190

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do the seals...i regret not doing mine when i did my timing belt and now everythings gotta come apart again for them...

FLOORED

Great, so the consensus is do the seals and don't touch the seals.

ggesq

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If you're determined on getting the TB done so early, you might as well cough up the extra to do the seals while everything is out. Cheap relatively speaking insurance.

My rear main seal is leaking. When they go in there to fix it, I plan on doing anything I can so I don't have to get raped down the road. My TL is an 05 with 192k miles.

FLOORED

i just want to follow the maintenance so this car will last, just light getting oil changed done a little early. its overkill but not a bad idea

CobraSpdRH

Typically they will inspect the seals when doing the belt. If they are bad/leaking, they will/can replace them for extra $, if they're fine, then there is no need.

It's tough to say before they get into the job. If I had to pick beforehand, I would just say replace to be safe and save $ down the road in case they do begin to leak.

FLOORED

even if I'm at 56k with a well maintained 07

ggesq

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^ with that logic, then a TB is not needed now either.

triax37

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Lots of opinions in this thread about timing belt timing! To answer your question, it's not standard procedure, so they don't NEED replacement until they leak. I don't think there is any scheduled replacement of those seals. Since they are relatively inexpensive (parts-wise), many people will replace them while they are already in there.

$140 is an interesting upcharge - they are probably adding 1 hour labor, which is a joke since it will take them 15 minutes since everything is already opened up. I think you saw everyone's opinion on your well-maintained car's need for the timing belt service. It could probably wait awhile.

FLOORED

well i pulled the trigger. good thing since the dealer said the tensioner was leaking slightly. $700 for timing belt water pump tensioner and coolant from the dealer.

06TLMatt

Dangggggg $700.. I picked up the entire kit for $226 and change..

navdeeps

My dealer also quoted me a low price of $499 for TL but it is only for timing belt and tensioner. It does not include water pump, pulleys and drive belt. For everything, they quoted me $1400 (not including seals).

truonghthe

That a rip off quote. my dealer wanted $1330 for tv/wp, three seals, flush the radiator and coolant system along with new thermostats. But yet I provide them with part and paid for labor only, the bill came out as $700.

FLOORED

shop around. there is always a dealer that is having a special. $226.00 is just for parts, you might want to add $5-600 in labor to that bill. its a 6 hour job

anx1300c

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What's your point? That you're doing the work yourself? We'll send you a cookie and a pat on the back.

$700 is still a bargain at a dealership.

FLOORED

thank you.
i was going to tackle the task but don't have the time and i have never replaced a timing belt. i pretty handy with cars but don't feel like messing with the timing of an engines internal control.

anx1300c

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^^

Also, when it comes time to sell, a receipt for the 105k service from an Acura/Honda dealership can be a deal maker/breaker. For $450-500 above what you'd pay for the Aisin kit alone, you did just fine. Lots of people pay double what you did for the same work.

aIRpeACE

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my mechanic is doing the TB, water pump and tensioner for $625. that's a fair deal right?

by the way, he worked at Honda dealership before so i think he's pretty competent.

truonghthe

^^^that is the same price I paid for my Accord back in CT, yes its good price make sure you push him to do a coolant flush while he at it.

NBP04TL4ME

All in, I think that is a phenomenal price.

Chef107

I'm doing, Timing belt, timing belt auto-tensioner, tensioner pulley, idler pulley, serpentine belt, water pump, sparks plugs, fuel filter, coolant flush/service, seals, valve adjustment, and flush/clean for the throttle body for $900 all said and done(parts included). Original quote was roughly $1,800 from the dealer.

NBP04TL4ME

"I'm doing...." Does that mean you personally or are you getting it done at an indie shop??

aIRpeACE

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that's a very good deal considering the valve adjustment alone costs around 400

Chef107

I'm doing it through my local Acura dealer. The original quote was before any price breaks, specials, or discounts. I've formed a really good relationship with the owners and techs over the years of servicing/purchasing not only my vehicle but my families, friends, ext. that also drive Acuras or Hondas. Also doing some of the labor (or should i say a large chunk) off the books.



Quite frankly, I was astounded at the deal I got.

NBP04TL4ME

Good for you!