PHILTRUONG

2006 TL with 80,000 miles. Do I need to do timing belt and water pump replacement?

srg818

Yes. 7 years or 105,000 miles

Slpr04UA6

^that hasn't been proven!


105K is when it's due.

GreenSpades

Beat it

truonghthe

I would wait for the 105k miles unless the TB tensioner goes bad already.

Silver 3.5

i have an 07 , just replaced my TB couple weeks ago with 114,000 miles

TypeAcura

150000kms. No lights came on. Just proactively changed water pump, timing belt, tensioner, plugs two days ago. It's a no brainer.....I should have done it last year.

pierceman90

you have a couple of options.. do the maintenance that is required and stay in the clear ( 105k TB change or 7 years) or don't do it and risk spending a lot more replacing valves and ride your bike to work for a week or 2

Turbonut

iTrader: (1)

There is NO time limit on the 3G TL, only the MID.
Not going to repeat the temp ranges for 60k mile change, but suffice it to say, no place in the US that applies.

Fatfrii

by best advice to you if you are really concerned about it, is to just take off a panel that covers the timing belt and inspect the belt. where you live can really make a difference. I live in California in an area where it hardly ever rains. i got my timing belt changed at 150K and the belt was still in good condition.

srg818

Sounds like a Honda $tealership tactic...

nfnsquared

Nope, it's straight from the owner's manual and the Field Service Manual. You might want to take 60 seconds to review either one and learn something

srg818

nfnsquared, I understand that

I was quoting TurboNut who said the 7 year interval should be ignored against the advice of Honda. I suggested the only other explanation must be that Honda is milking its customers(tongue in cheek). Of course, I did my timing belt before 105k since it was over a decade old and I would argue TurboNut is wrong in this particular case. The area I live in has summer temperatures in the 90s with decent humidity and winters that dip below zero F. Ten years of that kind of heat cycling is going to affect a rubber timing belt and Honda acknowledges that by stating in their manual to change at 7 years even if the 105k mileage hasn't been reached. Turbonut can take his chance with his timing belt, I will prevent catastrophic engine failure for the price of a piece of a rubber and free labor(DIY)

Turbonut

iTrader: (1)

2006 Accord V6 manual there is no mention of time, only mileage, MID, same as Acura.
I did take a chance and changed it 13+ years 102,000 miles, everything inside perfect, no leakage, and belt as new.

Slpr04UA6

My TL is at 13yrs old, and ~72K miles.


Going to do in the next year or two. I agree with Turbo and NFN, tho.

DesertMistTL

iTrader: (2)

this, if you want SOME piece of mind for the next 30k do the very least this...

vtak2nr

Only looking at the belt for peace of mind isn't the best. There are other factors at play aswell (water pump failure//hydraulic tensioner failure)

I had my timing belt done a couple of weeks ago. (2008, 150,000kms) belt still looks brand new but the hydraulic tensioner was starting to leak

Turbonut

iTrader: (1)

Although a small number, but when the cars were new they've also had water pumps leak <50,000 miles and need replacement under the factory warranty. Same parts will differ depending with manufacturing process and maybe how the workers feel that particular day, but they certainly won't last a lifetime, so one must decide when to do the replacement.

axesd

My 05 TL is running at 123XXX, and debating if I should get my timing belt changed. Water pump is not acting weird.

*My front tire just popped yesterday and going to buy all 4 tires tomorrow. I gotta get my control arm replaced soon too. uhh the maintenance is slowly catching up.

njp

My 2006 TL is at 91K miles on the original belt without any issues. I've done all the service based on the manual and will follow it for the timing belt based on mileage also (around 105K like others have mentioned).

horseshoez

iTrader: (2)

Hmmm, I know from the service requirements for my V6 Accord (same basic engine) is 105,000 miles or 7-years, whichever comes first.

nfnsquared

Post a scan....

horseshoez

iTrader: (2)

Here you go.

nfnsquared

What link are you using for that?

horseshoez

iTrader: (2)

There is no link per-se, the image I posted is a screen grab from the 2001 Accord Sedan Owner's Manual in PDF format which I downloaded from the Honda Owners USA web site (http://owners.honda.com); that said, it is a mirror image for the paper manual in my car.

nfnsquared

Ah, that's what I thought. J30A vs 2004-2006 J32A.... Not applicable for this discussion. The 3G doesn't list any limit other than the MID indication (exception is "severe conditions" which don't exist in inhabited North America).

horseshoez

iTrader: (2)

Understood, I mistakenly thought I included the model year of the car in my original post (looking back I see I didn't); the thing is, the J30A1 and the J32A3 as close to being identical as any two engines can be, so while J32A3 doesn't have a listed duration for the belt, I find myself wondering if it wouldn't be prudent to observe the 7-Year time limit for vehicles driven less than 15,000 miles per year.

t-rd

You don't have to follow the guide line crafted by Honda if you you don't want to, and dispute back and forth. Just telling you from experience that the timing belt hydraulic tensioner in my 07 Accord V6 started leaking in as little as 88k miles / less than 4 years after a Honda dealer performed timing belt change with all OEM parts. The belt will most likely be fine, I still have mine from my last self-done timing belt change, but the hydraulic tensioner was failing. All timing components from that last job lasted 110k miles. The tensioner was spitting out and pooling hydraulic fluid by the plunger then dripped down, exited the lower timing belt cover onto the side of the oil pan. I thought I had an oil leak, but it was actually the hydraulic fluid from the tensioner. I could not have discovered this if I didn't uncover the timing belt covers. This piece, when failed, will cause the timing belt to loosen and skip tooth. I don't have to say what happens after that.

The timing components in the 7th gen Honda Accord and the 3rd gen Acura TL are identical.

So it's up to you to take a chance or not. It is your car, your choice to maintain or let it loose.

nfnsquared

No issues with the hydraulic tensioner prior to either of my 2 TB changes and no issues with the 3rd at 65K so far. But yeah, over an extend period of time, I'd be more concerned about the tensioner than the belt.