Notices
Third Generation TL (2004-2008)
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Thoughts on the upcoming TLX Type S?

 
Old 06-24-2019, 03:54 PM
  #1  
Registered Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 472
Received 57 Likes on 29 Posts
Thoughts on the upcoming TLX Type S?

I've seen spy shots & have read several articles, rumored to have a turbo and 350 Hp, some have mentioned possibly 390. Even though the test car is covered and hidden in the pics the body looks widened around the wheel wells and exhaust tips look great. Also said to have vents in the hood. I know I've put a lot of $$ recently in my 07' TLS it would be nice to have the TLX Type S, but I'm sure the price will be around $50,000. Id definitely keep the 07' as main transportation though.
TVL65 is offline  
Old 06-24-2019, 07:25 PM
  #2  
Registered Member
 
truonghthe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Age: 31
Posts: 6,774
Received 1,011 Likes on 870 Posts
I think its safe to say it leaning more to $55k, power wise not much to impress me unless it can sprint 0-60 around 4.5 sec. To put thing into reality the Q50 RS already put down 400 on paper, BMW M2 comp is around 400 hp as well.


I won't be buying new because the 1st 3 year depreciation is a bitch, about 50% off the original MSRP, by the time the TLX-S got to 3 years old i might tempting to pick up a GSF lol.
truonghthe is offline  
Old 06-25-2019, 06:34 AM
  #3  
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 775
Received 156 Likes on 129 Posts
In the 50's doesnt that put this into RLX territory? If it has a turbo wouldnt be on my shopping list plus I love my 4 TL's too much
08KBP_VA is online now  
The following users liked this post:
Saving4aTL (06-25-2019)
Old 06-25-2019, 07:43 AM
  #4  
Registered Member
 
TheSauceBoss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Columbus, OH
Age: 25
Posts: 264
Received 36 Likes on 32 Posts
I love Honda/Acura, my family works for R&D and I've had a great experience working at an Acura dealership myself.....but that being said, Acura has a bad habit of over-promising and under-delivering.

Most recently the A-Spec packages in the latest gen of vehicles. No HP gains. Just trim. Nothing that says "performance" besides the NSX. And all of this wouldn't be that bad if it wasn't for the high pricing associated with average performance.

Realistically, if I have ~50 grand to spend, I'm going to the BMW dealership to get something with more power. I wouldn't get my hopes up for the new TLX. I really do hope Acura surprises us, but I know the company has been struggling to find a solid identity in the mid-high range market, and I'm guessing the car will be underpowered.
TheSauceBoss is offline  
The following 2 users liked this post by TheSauceBoss:
panzerkiller13 (06-26-2019), Yvuru (06-25-2019)
Old 06-25-2019, 09:03 AM
  #5  
Registered Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 472
Received 57 Likes on 29 Posts
Sadly I'm starting to think 330 Hp, Acura just won't take that giant leap forward. If it's $55,000 that's another $3,800 in NJ sales tax PLUS dealer charges. That would be over $60,000 yikes. New TLX with A-spec is nearly $45,000, I see them used with 10,000 miles for $33,000.
TVL65 is offline  
Old 06-25-2019, 12:36 PM
  #6  
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 273
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
I'll be interested in this model in the fall of 2022, just like I got my 2008 in 2011.
RedsTL is offline  
The following users liked this post:
TVL65 (06-25-2019)
Old 06-25-2019, 12:56 PM
  #7  
Registered Member
 
antlive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Maryland
Age: 48
Posts: 460
Received 13 Likes on 9 Posts
Was talking to the sale guy who sold me my MDX about this. He said Acura listens to it customers and they will be pushing the type S out by the end of the year. We were talking about how they made a big mistake going away from it....
antlive is offline  
Old 06-25-2019, 02:00 PM
  #8  
Registered Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 472
Received 57 Likes on 29 Posts
I'll still check it out for sure. It'll depend on the reviews no doubt. But if under 350 HP I'll pass on it.
TVL65 is offline  
Old 06-26-2019, 10:19 PM
  #9  
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 21
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I've had my hopes up for the new Type-S since I first heard about it, and became super ecstatic that they might be approaching the powertrain the way I initially assumed (taking the NSX engine and detuning it instead of designing an all new system) but considering how quiet it's been... I don't really know what to think. I really hope Acura will hit it out of the park though because the current TLX didn't even feel as sporty and fun to drive as my 07 Type-S with 250K on it.

Acura also has a super engine to work with in the K20C1... so who knows what they'll actually end up doing. I'd honestly prefer the turbo 4 be used in a project to bring back the Integra though... one can dream, right?
panzerkiller13 is offline  
The following users liked this post:
Saving4aTL (06-30-2019)
Old 06-28-2019, 04:47 AM
  #10  
Registered Member
 
jdmvette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Age: 43
Posts: 142
Received 16 Likes on 14 Posts
i'll take a look at it when it's available but pretty sure my next 4 door will be a TTV6 kia stinger
jdmvette is offline  
Old 06-28-2019, 02:00 PM
  #11  
too many hobbies...
 
pkarandi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Herndon, VA
Age: 46
Posts: 187
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by jdmvette View Post
i'll take a look at it when it's available but pretty sure my next 4 door will be a TTV6 kia stinger
Funny! I was just about to write this EXACT thing. In fact, I tried to put a low offer on one (Stinger GT2) this week, but the dealer wasn't willing to go that low. I'm probably going to just wait until the 2020's come out and then make the jump. When I test drove the Stinger, I decided that would be my next car. To me, it's the best compromise of everything (sporting, comfort, cost, AND looks). My 2007 Type S has been great, but Acura has really been disappointing me on both the performance (under-powered) and design (boring) fronts.
pkarandi is offline  
Old 06-28-2019, 02:42 PM
  #12  
Registered Member
 
truonghthe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Age: 31
Posts: 6,774
Received 1,011 Likes on 870 Posts
its funny to see even the current Type S owner is mostly leaning toward other name brand even with the news of the Type S return.
truonghthe is offline  
The following users liked this post:
Saving4aTL (06-30-2019)
Old 06-28-2019, 03:53 PM
  #13  
Registered Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 472
Received 57 Likes on 29 Posts
Rumor is it won't be out until late 2020 as a 2021 model. I'll keep driving my 07" TLS until then.
TVL65 is offline  
Old 06-28-2019, 09:12 PM
  #14  
Registered Member
 
jdmvette's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Age: 43
Posts: 142
Received 16 Likes on 14 Posts
Originally Posted by pkarandi View Post
Funny! I was just about to write this EXACT thing. In fact, I tried to put a low offer on one (Stinger GT2) this week, but the dealer wasn't willing to go that low. I'm probably going to just wait until the 2020's come out and then make the jump. When I test drove the Stinger, I decided that would be my next car. To me, it's the best compromise of everything (sporting, comfort, cost, AND looks). My 2007 Type S has been great, but Acura has really been disappointing me on both the performance (under-powered) and design (boring) fronts.
good taste

i've been looking pretty hard at the GT2 myself, do the 2020s have anything new? (sorry to the OP for the OT tangent)
jdmvette is offline  
Old 06-29-2019, 01:51 AM
  #15  
Registered Member
 
hondeducation's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Long Beach, CA
Posts: 188
Received 15 Likes on 14 Posts
dang... if it's in the mid $55k range, that's a tough pill to swallow. like others have mentioned, it better have 400hp. the TL-S has 286hp for being a 12-13 year old car, so Acura better step it waaaaay up to make things worthwhile for us. otherwise, Acura will end up losing a lot of their sport enthusiasts to other brands.
hondeducation is offline  
Old 06-29-2019, 08:07 AM
  #16  
too many hobbies...
 
pkarandi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Herndon, VA
Age: 46
Posts: 187
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by truonghthe View Post
its funny to see even the current Type S owner is mostly leaning toward other name brand even with the news of the Type S return.
Not sure why that's noteworthy. If you test drive a Stinger (or Genesis G70) I don't think you would be all that surprised.

Originally Posted by TVL65 View Post
Rumor is it won't be out until late 2020 as a 2021 model. I'll keep driving my 07" TLS until then.
Yet another reason for me to jump ship from Acura. I'm looking to buy well before the new type-s will even be available.

Originally Posted by jdmvette View Post
good taste

i've been looking pretty hard at the GT2 myself, do the 2020s have anything new? (sorry to the OP for the OT tangent)
From my (rudimentary) research, it will be the same as the 2019's. I'm hoping they add full remote starting and hvac control via the uvo app, but I'm not optimistic. (Sorry for continuing the tangent- just wanted to answer the question)

Last edited by pkarandi; 06-29-2019 at 08:11 AM.
pkarandi is offline  
Old 06-30-2019, 06:39 PM
  #17  
Registered Member
 
truonghthe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Age: 31
Posts: 6,774
Received 1,011 Likes on 870 Posts
Originally Posted by pkarandi View Post
Not sure why that's noteworthy. If you test drive a Stinger (or Genesis G70) I don't think you would be all that surprised.

I am already did my friend, its sad to see a KIA is actually able to put a product on the market and surpass the TLX A-spec. I got a chance to test drove GT2 trim, that why I said TLX-S better put down at least 400 hp or their sale will suffer again.
truonghthe is offline  
The following users liked this post:
Saving4aTL (06-30-2019)
Old 07-01-2019, 03:51 PM
  #18  
too many hobbies...
 
pkarandi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Herndon, VA
Age: 46
Posts: 187
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by truonghthe View Post
I am already did my friend, its sad to see a KIA is actually able to put a product on the market and surpass the TLX A-spec. I got a chance to test drove GT2 trim, that why I said TLX-S better put down at least 400 hp or their sale will suffer again.
Oh - gotcha. Yeah, I've been pretty disappointed with the TL/TLX since our 3G TL was replaced. I didn't like the looks of the 4G at all, and was hopeful that the 5G would win me back, but it was just not "sporty" enough for me. This is just looks - I haven't test driven one. But, based on the reviews, Acura is going more after the luxury market than the sport market, so I immediately lost interest. I've seen some A-specs on the road, and they look much better than the base, but not enough to pull me away from the Stinger. If the Type-S is out during my purchase window (next 6 months), then great - I'll give it a spin, but that's not expected.
pkarandi is offline  
Old 07-01-2019, 06:02 PM
  #19  
Rotrex + Comptech TLer
 
Saving4aTL's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,500
Received 147 Likes on 134 Posts
The first time I witnessed the Stinger on the road, I fell in love.

Awesome external design. Decent stock power.
Saving4aTL is offline  
Old 07-02-2019, 12:24 AM
  #20  
WTF?
 
Midnight Mystery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Mississippi Coast (But not for much longer)
Age: 22
Posts: 5,647
Received 343 Likes on 305 Posts
Originally Posted by Saving4aTL View Post
The first time I witnessed the Stinger on the road, I fell in love.

Awesome external design. Decent stock power.

I never liked it, really...


Looks too much like a 4 door Dodge Viper, to me...


Then again, the TLX is one of my favorite cars on the road, so what do I know...
Midnight Mystery is offline  
Old 07-02-2019, 06:41 AM
  #21  
DMZ
Head a da Family
 
DMZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: New Friggin Jerzy
Age: 64
Posts: 4,683
Received 261 Likes on 188 Posts
Originally Posted by hondeducation View Post
dang... if it's in the mid $55k range, that's a tough pill to swallow. like others have mentioned, it better have 400hp. the TL-S has 286hp for being a 12-13 year old car, so Acura better step it waaaaay up to make things worthwhile for us. otherwise, Acura will end up losing a lot of their sport enthusiasts to other brands.
Acura has been doing a bang-up job of losing their sport enthusiasts by continuing to think their shit doesn't stink. There's tons more competition out there now than there was in 2004-2008 with many other more powerful and sportier options to choose from as evidenced by what I saw at the NY Auto Show a few months ago. Consumer Reports recently removed the RDX from their recommended list to boot!
.
.

Last edited by DMZ; 07-02-2019 at 06:43 AM.
DMZ is offline  
The following users liked this post:
pkarandi (07-03-2019)
Old 07-02-2019, 04:50 PM
  #22  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,733
Received 1,210 Likes on 814 Posts
Was recently looking at the G70. Stunning.
gatrhumpy is online now  
The following users liked this post:
pkarandi (07-03-2019)
Old 07-03-2019, 10:20 AM
  #23  
too many hobbies...
 
pkarandi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Herndon, VA
Age: 46
Posts: 187
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I actually wanted a G70 first, but then I test drove one, and although I loved its drive qualities, the back seat was basically useless. That's what led me to the Stinger - similar drive to the G70 (same drivetrain) but with a useful back seat!
pkarandi is offline  
Old 07-08-2019, 05:27 PM
  #24  
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Age: 44
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Why has no one mentioned the TRANSMISSION?!?

The current 9 speed sourced from ZF has universally garnered horrible reviews from media and drivers. It's clearly the weak point of the TLX V6 platform. I don't care if the new TLX Type S has 350hp or 450hp, if it's mated to the 9 speed it's a hard pass.

Until Honda integrates the in house 10 speed to a 2.0 turbo or V6 for the next gen TLX (it's already built, witness 2019 RLX V6 10 speed), I will look elsewhere for the eventual replacement to my great running '06 TL. With Acura's history of certain transmission issues, this remains the most important aspect of upcoming TLX models.
3sleeper3 is offline  
Old 07-08-2019, 05:46 PM
  #25  
Registered Member
 
Yvuru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 890
Received 61 Likes on 53 Posts
i predict it will be overweight, and not competitive with the market segment. BUT it will probably look good
Yvuru is online now  
Old 07-08-2019, 07:10 PM
  #26  
WTF?
 
Midnight Mystery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Mississippi Coast (But not for much longer)
Age: 22
Posts: 5,647
Received 343 Likes on 305 Posts
I'm sure it will still be a good car...
Midnight Mystery is offline  
Old 07-12-2019, 08:56 AM
  #27  
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 273
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
Was recently looking at the G70. Stunning.
SLOW. I can't believe what some of you are promoting.
RedsTL is offline  
Old 07-12-2019, 10:35 AM
  #28  
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Northern NJ
Posts: 76
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by 3sleeper3 View Post
Why has no one mentioned the TRANSMISSION?!?

The current 9 speed sourced from ZF has universally garnered horrible reviews from media and drivers. It's clearly the weak point of the TLX V6 platform. I don't care if the new TLX Type S has 350hp or 450hp, if it's mated to the 9 speed it's a hard pass.

Until Honda integrates the in house 10 speed to a 2.0 turbo or V6 for the next gen TLX (it's already built, witness 2019 RLX V6 10 speed), I will look elsewhere for the eventual replacement to my great running '06 TL. With Acura's history of certain transmission issues, this remains the most important aspect of upcoming TLX models.
Even their in-house 10 speed used in new RDX has issues. Common complaint is that when slowing down to make a turn, the tranny is stuck on high gear and hesitation occurs when accelerator is pressed.
donkiboy is offline  
Old 07-12-2019, 04:41 PM
  #29  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,733
Received 1,210 Likes on 814 Posts
Originally Posted by RedsTL View Post
SLOW. I can't believe what some of you are promoting.
0-60mph in 4.5s is slow?
gatrhumpy is online now  
Old 07-12-2019, 06:44 PM
  #30  
WTF?
 
Midnight Mystery's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Mississippi Coast (But not for much longer)
Age: 22
Posts: 5,647
Received 343 Likes on 305 Posts
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
0-60mph in 4.5s is slow?
Hey! That *might* almost beat an IS350!!!
Midnight Mystery is offline  
Old 07-15-2019, 10:06 AM
  #31  
too many hobbies...
 
pkarandi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Herndon, VA
Age: 46
Posts: 187
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by RedsTL View Post
SLOW. I can't believe what some of you are promoting.
Are you sure you're looking at a Genesis G70?! It's got a 365 hp twin turbo engine...

Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
0-60mph in 4.5s is slow?
Exactly.

Originally Posted by Midnight Mystery View Post
Hey! That *might* almost beat an IS350!!!
My spidey-sense tells me you're kidding, but I can't help myself... A quick search showed a 2014 IS350 0-60 in 5.5 secs. I doubt the new ones are much faster since I think they still use the same drivetrain.
pkarandi is offline  
Old 07-15-2019, 03:12 PM
  #32  
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 273
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by pkarandi View Post
Are you sure you're looking at a Genesis G70?! It's got a 365 hp twin turbo engine...


Exactly.


My spidey-sense tells me you're kidding, but I can't help myself... A quick search showed a 2014 IS350 0-60 in 5.5 secs. I doubt the new ones are much faster since I think they still use the same drivetrain.
Shows as a 252 hp engine on their website.
RedsTL is offline  
Old 07-15-2019, 03:15 PM
  #33  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 81,214
Received 14,176 Likes on 10,524 Posts
Originally Posted by RedsTL View Post
Shows as a 252 hp engine on their website.
LOL you're SLOW.


there are different engine options, short bus.

on the website

PERFORMANCE

The sound of its inspiring exhaust note hints at the G70’s impressive performance credentials. The available 3.3L, 365-horsepower twin turbo paired with launch control pushes the G70 to a quick, confident jump off the line.
justnspace is online now  
Old 07-15-2019, 03:17 PM
  #34  
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 273
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by justnspace View Post
LOL you're SLOW.


there are different engine options, short bus.

on the website
Eesh, and you're a moderator here?
RedsTL is offline  
Old 07-15-2019, 03:19 PM
  #35  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 81,214
Received 14,176 Likes on 10,524 Posts
Originally Posted by RedsTL View Post
Eesh, and you're a moderator here?
well, everyone was thinking it, I just had the balls to say it
justnspace is online now  
The following 2 users liked this post by justnspace:
04WDPSeDaN (07-16-2019), gatrhumpy (07-16-2019)
Old 07-15-2019, 04:09 PM
  #36  
Registered Member
 
Jackass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: KCMO Burbs
Age: 43
Posts: 2,037
Received 378 Likes on 293 Posts
What's with the focus on just HP and 0-60 times? It isn't like we currently drive anything that is a true rocket with lots of HP. To me, as long as 0-60 is sub 7 second, it is plenty fast for me these days. It is more about a balance of performance, handling, ride quality, reliability, and looks.....and practicality. If practicality was not important, I would be driving something smaller with 2 less doors.
Jackass is offline  
The following 2 users liked this post by Jackass:
justnspace (07-15-2019), RedsTL (07-15-2019)
Old 07-16-2019, 06:35 AM
  #37  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,733
Received 1,210 Likes on 814 Posts
Originally Posted by RedsTL View Post
Shows as a 252 hp engine on their website.
Maybe if you took your eyes off your blatant disregard for being smart, you'd actually find the G70 has two engine options: a 252HP turbo 4 cylinder and a 365 3.3T V6 engine.
gatrhumpy is online now  
The following users liked this post:
04WDPSeDaN (07-16-2019)
Old 07-16-2019, 06:35 AM
  #38  
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)
 
gatrhumpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 39
Posts: 33,733
Received 1,210 Likes on 814 Posts
Originally Posted by RedsTL View Post
Eesh, and you're a moderator here?
Yes he is, and is immensely helpful at calling out stupidity.
gatrhumpy is online now  
The following 2 users liked this post by gatrhumpy:
04WDPSeDaN (07-16-2019), Saving4aTL (07-17-2019)
Old 07-16-2019, 08:16 AM
  #39  
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 273
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
Yes he is, and is immensely helpful at calling out stupidity.
Guess I didn't realize this forum was so wild west. In that case, you're a moron who takes way too much time researching cars. Get a life.
RedsTL is offline  
Old 07-16-2019, 09:20 AM
  #40  
iWhine S/C 6MT TL
iTrader: (1)
 
04WDPSeDaN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 33
Posts: 4,265
Received 1,032 Likes on 578 Posts
Originally Posted by RedsTL View Post
Guess I didn't realize this forum was so wild west. In that case, you're a moron who takes way too much time researching cars. Get a life.
Actually that's called being a well educated car enthusiast who isn't a fanboy of only ONE brand, being Acura. Geez, what in the world is going on with Acurazine lately. These guys are out of control with their worthless comments and insults thrown around... God forbid you discuss another brand or discuss proven facts, then all of a sudden you turn into the asshole on this forum. I just went through it with another worthless member on the RDX forum. By all means, if you can't hold an educated conversation on a car forum, then please go hit that log out button and join a facebook group. FFS.
04WDPSeDaN is offline  
The following 2 users liked this post by 04WDPSeDaN:
BreezyTL (07-16-2019), gatrhumpy (07-16-2019)

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Thoughts on the upcoming TLX Type S?


Contact Us - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.