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Toplican 03-12-2018 02:32 PM

Should I get a TL Type S
 
So I’m in love with the TL type S 07-08 been reading some stuff that they’re not that good. And performance wise they’re not the best. Is any of that true ?

justnspace 03-12-2018 02:35 PM

it's a car. do you want that specific car?
if answer to that question is no. look for a different car that you want to purchase.
no one should tell you what to do unless it's your mom.

thoiboi 03-12-2018 02:39 PM

yes

truonghthe 03-12-2018 02:41 PM

You know why they called its a Type S right? Type S "S" stand for Slow.....

horseshoez 03-12-2018 02:41 PM

A few comments.
  • "...reading sum stuff that they're not that good." Good from what perspective? Good-reliable? Good-driving dynamics? Good-acceleration? Good-maintenance costs?
  • "...and performance wise they're not the best." The fact is, 99.999999% of the cars on the road are "not the best"
A different way to look at it; the Gen 3 TLs are a very comfortable platform for which to get on with the business of driving; few cars equal the TL in all around comfort, performance, reliability, cost of maintenance, and looks. What is more surprising is, even after the newest examples of this car left the factory ten years ago, the attributes about the 3G TL are still true.

justnspace 03-12-2018 02:42 PM

:pofl:

WDPanda 03-12-2018 02:44 PM

I've already gotten so many tickets with the type S. It's got plenty of power, trust me. You don't need a faster car unless you want faster tickets.

Toplican 03-12-2018 02:45 PM

See I’m not the type of person that cares about speed I’m planning on putting an ATLP exhaust on it. Lower it some nice wheels. That’s pretty much it. Does anyone have any other suggest on which car I should get , that can relate to the type S same price range.

horseshoez 03-12-2018 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Toplican (Post 16199795)
See I’m not the type of person that cares about speed I’m planning on putting an ATLP exhaust on it. Lower it some nice wheels. That’s pretty much it. Does anyone have any other suggest on which car I should get , that can relate to the type S same price range.

Get a Civic, much more aftermarket support.

GhostTL09 03-12-2018 02:53 PM

Go test drive at least 5 in good to great condition and judge. Also keep in mind the last produced was 10 years ago lol.

Toplican 03-12-2018 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by GhostTL09 (Post 16199808)
Go test drive at least 5 in good to great condition and judge. Also keep in mind the last produced was 10 years ago lol.

I would love to test drive a few. But I love western Canada and they’re only one for sale here and it’s 1000 km away. How ever I was planning on buying one from Toronto. And driving it back to Alberta

Toplican 03-12-2018 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by horseshoez (Post 16199798)
Get a Civic, much more aftermarket support.

i drive a Honda Accord right now. Don’t really wanna downgrade. Like I said I don’t really care for speed it’s liability , looks that I mostly care for

Joecop67 03-12-2018 03:04 PM

Is it a manual or automatic? If it was a manual and in good shape and not too expensive, I'd probably get it. Even if it was an automatic, I'd get it.

Toplican 03-12-2018 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Joecop67 (Post 16199831)
Is it a manual or automatic? If it was a manual and in good shape and not too expensive, I'd probably get it. Even if it was an automatic, I'd get it.

to me it doesn’t matter. I’ve been driving stick my whole life literally never had an automatic. So I’m kinda sick of it. But there’s one for 12,500 auto and one for 14,000 manual

Joecop67 03-12-2018 03:10 PM

Driving a stick your whole life? Lol. You just started driving like last week sonny.

thoiboi 03-12-2018 03:11 PM

Go for the manny

Toplican 03-12-2018 03:12 PM

Don’t get me wrong but I see some post and people say If you wanna make your TL faster just get a better car. Me personally I’m not trying to make my TL 400-500 hp. If I wanted that I would get a skyline. I just wanna get a few upgrades like exhaust , headers , Intake and mostly Cosmetic

Toplican 03-12-2018 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Joecop67 (Post 16199845)
Driving a stick your whole life? Lol. You just started driving like last week sonny.

what ? I’ve been driving since 15 I’m 23

horseshoez 03-12-2018 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Toplican (Post 16199825)


i drive a Honda Accord right now. Don’t really wanna downgrade. Like I said I don’t really care for speed it’s liability , looks that I mostly care for

Keep in mind, the instant you start modifying these cars, the resale value will plummet. Also, I assume you meant to write "reliability" in the last post, assuming that's the case, lowering the TL does come at the cost of reduced axle and suspension component life, that and in Alberta snow clearance will quickly become an issue if you start lowering the car.

Joecop67 03-12-2018 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Toplican (Post 16199850)


what ? I’ve been driving since 15 I’m 23

I'm teasing you. Your age says 21 under your name and I assumed in America north the driving age is 16, so I figured you've been driving for 5 years. Not long either way.

Toplican 03-12-2018 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by horseshoez (Post 16199856)
Keep in mind, the instant you start modifying these cars, the resale value will plummet. Also, I assume you meant to write "reliability" in the last post, assuming that's the case, lowering the TL does come at the cost of reduced axle and suspension component life, that and in Alberta snow clearance will quickly become an issue if you start lowering the car.

yes I did mean reliability. And with lower I mean like 1-2 inches. Not slammed

Toplican 03-12-2018 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by Joecop67 (Post 16199857)


I'm teasing you. Your age says 21 under your name and I assumed in America north the driving age is 16, so I figured you've been driving for 5 years. Not long either way.

Oh yea no man we get our learners at 14 here and licence at 16. And yea I don’t know how to change any of my info lol

horseshoez 03-12-2018 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Toplican (Post 16199862)


yes I did mean reliability. And with lower I mean like 1-2 inches. Not slammed

It doesn't take much before the factory designed geometry starts to change, and that's when longevity of the components becomes compromised.

Speaking strictly for myself, last year when I was shopping, if I saw even a hint of a drop, I walked; no price would have been low enough to encourage me to buy.

Toplican 03-12-2018 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by horseshoez (Post 16199869)
It doesn't take much before the factory designed geometry starts to change, and that's when longevity of the components becomes compromised.

Speaking strictly for myself, last year when I was shopping, if I saw even a hint of a drop, I walked; no price would have been low enough to encourage me to buy.

what about bags ?

horseshoez 03-12-2018 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by Toplican (Post 16199870)


what about bags ?

Yikes, if you were to say, buy that $14,000 Type-S 6MT and then bag it, I suspect you wouldn't be able to give it away for $5,000.

Toplican 03-12-2018 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by horseshoez (Post 16199872)
Yikes, if you were to say, buy that $14,000 Type-S 6MT and then bag it, I suspect you wouldn't be able to give it away for $5,000.

So no to lowering. Okay works for me. So all in all get a TL or no ?

losiglow 03-12-2018 03:41 PM

I don't think the Type-S is the best value unless it's the car you've really set your sights on. If it's sort of a "meh, this will work" decision, I might look elsewhere. The 3G Type-S is rare enough, yet still sought after enough, that it usually commands a higher price than comparable cars with similar miles, age and condition. I'd pay the premium for a Type-S (manual) simply because I think it's a great car. But I wouldn't tell someone else to pay the premium if I didn't think they'd appreciate it.

I Ubered a guy home in my 4G from the airport last year who lived in a really nice neighborhood up on the hill and had a house the size of a small supermarket. We got talking shop and he told me about some of the cars he owns - a newer M3, an old Corvette Stingray and a jet-black CTS-V coupe. He also had a Type-S TL in great condition that he offered to show me when I dropped him off. It was a carbon-bronze pearl with a 6MT and only had about 30K miles if I remember correctly. Even at that condition, it was probably only worth around $18-$20K, so definitely not much for someone at baller status like he was. But he just simply loved the look of the car and drove it as his daily since he appreciated the combination of what the car offered.

I think the value in a 3G Type-S is the look of the car, combined with the "jack-of-all-trades" nature of the TL. It's above average on speed, comfort, reliability and tech (for it's time) but not absolutely stellar at any of those. You can easily find a car that is faster or comfier, and likely pay less. However, you might be hard pressed to find a car with the looks of the 3G which is pretty good at just about everything. Just my :2cents:

justnspace 03-12-2018 03:44 PM

Lol wants automatic because bored of manual tranny :rofl:

You do know that Honda autos SUCK!!!!?
The gearing sucks and reliability sucks

Toplican 03-12-2018 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by losiglow (Post 16199883)
I don't think the Type-S is the best value unless it's the car you've really set your sights on. If it's sort of a "meh, this will work" decision, I might look elsewhere. The 3G Type-S is rare enough, yet still sought after enough, that it usually commands a higher price than comparable cars with similar miles, age and condition. I'd pay the premium for a Type-S (manual) simply because I think it's a great car. But I wouldn't tell someone else to pay the premium if I didn't think they'd appreciate it.

I Ubered a guy home in my 4G from the airport last year who lived in a really nice neighborhood up on the hill and had a house the size of a small supermarket. We got talking shop and he told me about some of the cars he owns - a newer M3, an old Corvette Stingray and a jet-black CTS-V coupe. He also had a Type-S TL in great condition that he offered to show me when I dropped him off. It was a carbon-bronze pearl with a 6MT and only had about 30K miles if I remember correctly. Even at that condition, it was probably only worth around $18-$20K, so definitely not much for someone at baller status like he was. But he just simply loved the look of the car and drove it as his daily since he appreciated the combination of what the car offered.

I think the value in a 3G Type-S is the look of the car, combined with the "jack-of-all-trades" nature of the TL. It's above average on speed, comfort, reliability and tech (for it's time) but not absolutely stellar at any of those. You can easily find a car that is faster or comfier, and likely pay less. However, you might be hard pressed to find a car with the looks of the 3G which is pretty good at just about everything. Just my :2cents:

yeq with me is I love the TL. been a dream car since high school. I just wanna know that I’m not messing up

Toplican 03-12-2018 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by justnspace (Post 16199892)
Lol wants automatic because bored of manual tranny :rofl:

You do know that Honda autos SUCK!!!!?
The gearing sucks and reliability sucks

nothing against auto. I just get really tired and board from driving stick. I work downtown and it really sucks shifting from first to second every so often for an hour straight

Flipster23 03-12-2018 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by Toplican (Post 16199773)
So I’m in love with the TL type S 07-08 been reading some stuff that they’re not that good. And performance wise they’re not the best. Is any of that true ?

What is not good about it? 04-06 Autotragic is what you do not want.


Originally Posted by Toplican (Post 16199795)
See I’m not the type of person that cares about speed I’m planning on putting an ATLP exhaust on it. Lower it some nice wheels. That’s pretty much it. Does anyone have any other suggest on which car I should get , that can relate to the type S same price range.

I thought you like the TL-S, why are you asking if we have another car that we suggest. You liked TL since HS. So, why wouldn't you get one if it's what YOU like?


Originally Posted by Toplican (Post 16199849)
Don’t get me wrong but I see some post and people say If you wanna make your TL faster just get a better car. Me personally I’m not trying to make my TL 400-500 hp. If I wanted that I would get a skyline. I just wanna get a few upgrades like exhaust , headers , Intake and mostly Cosmetic

You will always want a faster car. I know a guy that had a GT3, he wanted a faster car.


Originally Posted by Toplican (Post 16199876)

So no to lowering. Okay works for me. So all in all get a TL or no ?

So you don't want to lower it now? If you like the TL, get it. Don't rely on guys on a car forum to make the decision for you.


Originally Posted by Toplican (Post 16199902)

nothing against auto. I just get really tired and board from driving stick. I work downtown and it really sucks shifting from first to second every so often for an hour straight

You never had an automatic, you have not seen bored yet.

losiglow 03-12-2018 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by justnspace (Post 16199892)
Lol wants automatic because bored of manual tranny :rofl:

You do know that Honda autos SUCK!!!!?
The gearing sucks and reliability sucks

Pretty much spot on. I'd really test drive the auto before you pull the trigger. Honda's MT's are as good on one end of the spectrum as their auto's are bad. I'm very happy with the 6AT in my 4G but I don't think I'd ever consider any 3G with an auto. I test drove a Type-S with an auto and it took about 10 seconds to cross it off my list. I'm not knocking it, that's just my own preference. They're supposed to be considerably improved as far as reliability goes since the 04-06, if reliability is a concern.

Toplican 03-12-2018 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Flipster23 (Post 16199916)
What is not good about it? 04-06 Autotragic is what you do not want.


I thought you like the TL-S, why are you asking if we have another car that we suggest. You liked TL since HS. So, why wouldn't you get one if it's what YOU like?



You will always want a faster car. I know a guy that had a GT3, he wanted a faster car.



So you don't want to lower it now? If you like the TL, get it. Don't rely on guys on a car forum to make the decision for


You never had an automatic, you have not seen bored yet.

i heard 04-06 is bad for auto but 08 is fine. I don’t rely on you guys to make a decision for me. I’m just asking if there’s anything out there that might be better I’m open to suggestions. And no if lowering it is bad I won’t do it simple.

Flipster23 03-12-2018 04:38 PM

07-08 Auto's are ok. 04-06, forget it. The only way I would get a TL-S is if it manual.

We can give you other suggestions but we would need more info.

Budget, are you looking for something that's gas efficient? 2 doors or 4 doors? I'm guessing it has to be Automatic.

horseshoez 03-12-2018 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Toplican (Post 16199956)
And no if lowering it is bad I won’t do it simple.

Keep in mind, I didn't say "don't lower it", I said it will increases your maintenance costs and it will lower your resale value.

FWIW, my 2001 V6 Accord (more or less a 2G TL in Honda garb) has not been inexpensive to maintain; I bought the car in August of 2012 with 114,000 miles on it for something like $5,700. Per my maintenance log, I have since spent over $6,500 on it for both scheduled and unscheduled maintenance. Most folks who read that will automatically think "transmission", but no, the tranny hasn't needed any attention except for the normal 30,000 mile service fluid changes. Said another way, while these are good and reliable cars which can easily last hundreds of thousands of miles, they aren't exactly cheap to maintain as they age.

Toplican 03-12-2018 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by Flipster23 (Post 16199966)
07-08 Auto's are ok. 04-06, forget it. The only way I would get a TL-S is if it manual.

We can give you other suggestions but we would need more info.

Budget, are you looking for something that's gas efficient? 2 doors or 4 doors? I'm guessing it has to be Automatic.

No I just wanted to know. Weather it’s worth spending 14K on a car if it’s not gonna last or there’s gonna he problems. I’d like to add some performance mods to it. But people Are saying “ if your gonna add performance mods might as well buy a different car. “ which makes sense. But I’m not trying to have 400 hp.

Flipster23 03-12-2018 05:08 PM

That's $ 14,500 CDN right?

I believe you said you were in Canada?

11k USD is still pricey for a TL IMO.

losiglow 03-12-2018 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Toplican (Post 16200002)


No I just wanted to know. Weather it’s worth spending 14K on a car if it’s not gonna last or there’s gonna he problems. I’d like to add some performance mods to it. But people Are saying “ if your gonna add performance mods might as well buy a different car. “ which makes sense. But I’m not trying to have 400 hp.

Oh, you can get 400hp out of a Type-S. It's gonna require a lot of NOS and Rockstar stickers though.

Toplican 03-12-2018 05:11 PM

Well the thing is. The pricing for cars is much different then it is in the US. I wanted to drive to Seattle or Montana but I literally cannot find anything. Plus there’s a charge at the boarder and then I gotta change the dashboard. The car does have 130,000 km I’m not sure how many miles that is.

Toplican 03-12-2018 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by losiglow (Post 16200018)
Oh, you can get 400hp out of a Type-S. It's gonna require a lot of NOS and Rockstar stickers though.

LOL. Added Hp if I get a fart can exhaust


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