Should I get a TL Type S
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Should I get a TL Type S
So I’m in love with the TL type S 07-08 been reading some stuff that they’re not that good. And performance wise they’re not the best. Is any of that true ?
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You know why they called its a Type S right? Type S "S" stand for Slow.....
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A few comments.
- "...reading sum stuff that they're not that good." Good from what perspective? Good-reliable? Good-driving dynamics? Good-acceleration? Good-maintenance costs?
- "...and performance wise they're not the best." The fact is, 99.999999% of the cars on the road are "not the best"
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See I’m not the type of person that cares about speed I’m planning on putting an ATLP exhaust on it. Lower it some nice wheels. That’s pretty much it. Does anyone have any other suggest on which car I should get , that can relate to the type S same price range.
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Get a Civic, much more aftermarket support.
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I would love to test drive a few. But I love western Canada and they’re only one for sale here and it’s 1000 km away. How ever I was planning on buying one from Toronto. And driving it back to Alberta
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to me it doesn’t matter. I’ve been driving stick my whole life literally never had an automatic. So I’m kinda sick of it. But there’s one for 12,500 auto and one for 14,000 manual
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Go for the manny
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Don’t get me wrong but I see some post and people say If you wanna make your TL faster just get a better car. Me personally I’m not trying to make my TL 400-500 hp. If I wanted that I would get a skyline. I just wanna get a few upgrades like exhaust , headers , Intake and mostly Cosmetic
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Keep in mind, the instant you start modifying these cars, the resale value will plummet. Also, I assume you meant to write "reliability" in the last post, assuming that's the case, lowering the TL does come at the cost of reduced axle and suspension component life, that and in Alberta snow clearance will quickly become an issue if you start lowering the car.
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Keep in mind, the instant you start modifying these cars, the resale value will plummet. Also, I assume you meant to write "reliability" in the last post, assuming that's the case, lowering the TL does come at the cost of reduced axle and suspension component life, that and in Alberta snow clearance will quickly become an issue if you start lowering the car.
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Oh yea no man we get our learners at 14 here and licence at 16. And yea I don’t know how to change any of my info lol
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Speaking strictly for myself, last year when I was shopping, if I saw even a hint of a drop, I walked; no price would have been low enough to encourage me to buy.
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It doesn't take much before the factory designed geometry starts to change, and that's when longevity of the components becomes compromised.
Speaking strictly for myself, last year when I was shopping, if I saw even a hint of a drop, I walked; no price would have been low enough to encourage me to buy.
Speaking strictly for myself, last year when I was shopping, if I saw even a hint of a drop, I walked; no price would have been low enough to encourage me to buy.
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I don't think the Type-S is the best value unless it's the car you've really set your sights on. If it's sort of a "meh, this will work" decision, I might look elsewhere. The 3G Type-S is rare enough, yet still sought after enough, that it usually commands a higher price than comparable cars with similar miles, age and condition. I'd pay the premium for a Type-S (manual) simply because I think it's a great car. But I wouldn't tell someone else to pay the premium if I didn't think they'd appreciate it.
I Ubered a guy home in my 4G from the airport last year who lived in a really nice neighborhood up on the hill and had a house the size of a small supermarket. We got talking shop and he told me about some of the cars he owns - a newer M3, an old Corvette Stingray and a jet-black CTS-V coupe. He also had a Type-S TL in great condition that he offered to show me when I dropped him off. It was a carbon-bronze pearl with a 6MT and only had about 30K miles if I remember correctly. Even at that condition, it was probably only worth around $18-$20K, so definitely not much for someone at baller status like he was. But he just simply loved the look of the car and drove it as his daily since he appreciated the combination of what the car offered.
I think the value in a 3G Type-S is the look of the car, combined with the "jack-of-all-trades" nature of the TL. It's above average on speed, comfort, reliability and tech (for it's time) but not absolutely stellar at any of those. You can easily find a car that is faster or comfier, and likely pay less. However, you might be hard pressed to find a car with the looks of the 3G which is pretty good at just about everything. Just my
I Ubered a guy home in my 4G from the airport last year who lived in a really nice neighborhood up on the hill and had a house the size of a small supermarket. We got talking shop and he told me about some of the cars he owns - a newer M3, an old Corvette Stingray and a jet-black CTS-V coupe. He also had a Type-S TL in great condition that he offered to show me when I dropped him off. It was a carbon-bronze pearl with a 6MT and only had about 30K miles if I remember correctly. Even at that condition, it was probably only worth around $18-$20K, so definitely not much for someone at baller status like he was. But he just simply loved the look of the car and drove it as his daily since he appreciated the combination of what the car offered.
I think the value in a 3G Type-S is the look of the car, combined with the "jack-of-all-trades" nature of the TL. It's above average on speed, comfort, reliability and tech (for it's time) but not absolutely stellar at any of those. You can easily find a car that is faster or comfier, and likely pay less. However, you might be hard pressed to find a car with the looks of the 3G which is pretty good at just about everything. Just my
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I don't think the Type-S is the best value unless it's the car you've really set your sights on. If it's sort of a "meh, this will work" decision, I might look elsewhere. The 3G Type-S is rare enough, yet still sought after enough, that it usually commands a higher price than comparable cars with similar miles, age and condition. I'd pay the premium for a Type-S (manual) simply because I think it's a great car. But I wouldn't tell someone else to pay the premium if I didn't think they'd appreciate it.
I Ubered a guy home in my 4G from the airport last year who lived in a really nice neighborhood up on the hill and had a house the size of a small supermarket. We got talking shop and he told me about some of the cars he owns - a newer M3, an old Corvette Stingray and a jet-black CTS-V coupe. He also had a Type-S TL in great condition that he offered to show me when I dropped him off. It was a carbon-bronze pearl with a 6MT and only had about 30K miles if I remember correctly. Even at that condition, it was probably only worth around $18-$20K, so definitely not much for someone at baller status like he was. But he just simply loved the look of the car and drove it as his daily since he appreciated the combination of what the car offered.
I think the value in a 3G Type-S is the look of the car, combined with the "jack-of-all-trades" nature of the TL. It's above average on speed, comfort, reliability and tech (for it's time) but not absolutely stellar at any of those. You can easily find a car that is faster or comfier, and likely pay less. However, you might be hard pressed to find a car with the looks of the 3G which is pretty good at just about everything. Just my
I Ubered a guy home in my 4G from the airport last year who lived in a really nice neighborhood up on the hill and had a house the size of a small supermarket. We got talking shop and he told me about some of the cars he owns - a newer M3, an old Corvette Stingray and a jet-black CTS-V coupe. He also had a Type-S TL in great condition that he offered to show me when I dropped him off. It was a carbon-bronze pearl with a 6MT and only had about 30K miles if I remember correctly. Even at that condition, it was probably only worth around $18-$20K, so definitely not much for someone at baller status like he was. But he just simply loved the look of the car and drove it as his daily since he appreciated the combination of what the car offered.
I think the value in a 3G Type-S is the look of the car, combined with the "jack-of-all-trades" nature of the TL. It's above average on speed, comfort, reliability and tech (for it's time) but not absolutely stellar at any of those. You can easily find a car that is faster or comfier, and likely pay less. However, you might be hard pressed to find a car with the looks of the 3G which is pretty good at just about everything. Just my
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nothing against auto. I just get really tired and board from driving stick. I work downtown and it really sucks shifting from first to second every so often for an hour straight
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Don’t get me wrong but I see some post and people say If you wanna make your TL faster just get a better car. Me personally I’m not trying to make my TL 400-500 hp. If I wanted that I would get a skyline. I just wanna get a few upgrades like exhaust , headers , Intake and mostly Cosmetic
So you don't want to lower it now? If you like the TL, get it. Don't rely on guys on a car forum to make the decision for you.
You never had an automatic, you have not seen bored yet.
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Pretty much spot on. I'd really test drive the auto before you pull the trigger. Honda's MT's are as good on one end of the spectrum as their auto's are bad. I'm very happy with the 6AT in my 4G but I don't think I'd ever consider any 3G with an auto. I test drove a Type-S with an auto and it took about 10 seconds to cross it off my list. I'm not knocking it, that's just my own preference. They're supposed to be considerably improved as far as reliability goes since the 04-06, if reliability is a concern.
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What is not good about it? 04-06 Autotragic is what you do not want.
I thought you like the TL-S, why are you asking if we have another car that we suggest. You liked TL since HS. So, why wouldn't you get one if it's what YOU like?
You will always want a faster car. I know a guy that had a GT3, he wanted a faster car.
So you don't want to lower it now? If you like the TL, get it. Don't rely on guys on a car forum to make the decision for
You never had an automatic, you have not seen bored yet.
I thought you like the TL-S, why are you asking if we have another car that we suggest. You liked TL since HS. So, why wouldn't you get one if it's what YOU like?
You will always want a faster car. I know a guy that had a GT3, he wanted a faster car.
So you don't want to lower it now? If you like the TL, get it. Don't rely on guys on a car forum to make the decision for
You never had an automatic, you have not seen bored yet.
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Keep in mind, I didn't say "don't lower it", I said it will increases your maintenance costs and it will lower your resale value.
FWIW, my 2001 V6 Accord (more or less a 2G TL in Honda garb) has not been inexpensive to maintain; I bought the car in August of 2012 with 114,000 miles on it for something like $5,700. Per my maintenance log, I have since spent over $6,500 on it for both scheduled and unscheduled maintenance. Most folks who read that will automatically think "transmission", but no, the tranny hasn't needed any attention except for the normal 30,000 mile service fluid changes. Said another way, while these are good and reliable cars which can easily last hundreds of thousands of miles, they aren't exactly cheap to maintain as they age.
FWIW, my 2001 V6 Accord (more or less a 2G TL in Honda garb) has not been inexpensive to maintain; I bought the car in August of 2012 with 114,000 miles on it for something like $5,700. Per my maintenance log, I have since spent over $6,500 on it for both scheduled and unscheduled maintenance. Most folks who read that will automatically think "transmission", but no, the tranny hasn't needed any attention except for the normal 30,000 mile service fluid changes. Said another way, while these are good and reliable cars which can easily last hundreds of thousands of miles, they aren't exactly cheap to maintain as they age.
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No I just wanted to know. Weather it’s worth spending 14K on a car if it’s not gonna last or there’s gonna he problems. I’d like to add some performance mods to it. But people Are saying “ if your gonna add performance mods might as well buy a different car. “ which makes sense. But I’m not trying to have 400 hp.
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No I just wanted to know. Weather it’s worth spending 14K on a car if it’s not gonna last or there’s gonna he problems. I’d like to add some performance mods to it. But people Are saying “ if your gonna add performance mods might as well buy a different car. “ which makes sense. But I’m not trying to have 400 hp.
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Well the thing is. The pricing for cars is much different then it is in the US. I wanted to drive to Seattle or Montana but I literally cannot find anything. Plus there’s a charge at the boarder and then I gotta change the dashboard. The car does have 130,000 km I’m not sure how many miles that is.
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