xxtdxx

I just got the oil changed on my 06 yesterday with Royal Purple oil & filter. Wow. It's only been prob 15 miles or so but the car feels AWESOME! I can't even tell it's on when I'm sitting at a stop light and the engine is running smooth as I have ever heard it.

vietxquangstah

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cool story

DisgustipatedAP1

You realize Royal Purple is some of the lowest quality engine oil you can use, right? It's all marketing. , but in independent oil analysis it ranks near the bottom of the barrel. Try Amsoil, Redline, or Pennzoil Platinum Ultra (my favorite, only $28/5 quarts @ Walmart).

LasVegasTL

I've been running AMSoil for almost a year now.

mau108

New oil change will do that

RP isn't worth the $$$. For that money I'd go for Amsoil AZO 0w30 or Redline 5w20 (which is technically a light 30 wt!)

swoosh

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i got the redline 5w30 and dayum....yes dayum....

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/redline-my-system-820509/

paperboy42190

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what about mobil 1 synthetic 5w-20? hows the rating on that? is it just marketing too?

justnspace

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^just a blend. not full synthetic.

the full synthetic mobil 1's are the 0weights.
0w-20, 0w-30, 0w-40.

I'm running M1 0w-40.

swoosh

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M1 EP are fully synthetic....

csmeance

Pennzoil is worse than Royal Purple by A LOT! Royal Purple is decent oil however it's VERY overhyped and very overpriced for what it is. True Synthetic oils with good bases such as Redline and AMSOil are quite a bit better!




Amsoil is a great oil but it can be expensive if you dump it out only after 5K miles considering that regular dino oil can go that far in our cars.

Most of Mobil 1 is blended oils after that whole ruling over what can be called synthetic oils by the courts.

VicTL06

I'm curious, on what factors and can you provide a link to the analysis? I'm not trying to call you out or disbelieve you, but I would like to read/see it for myself.

sk8board{Pete}

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talk about blowing his high lol.. Amsoil, is the was to go!!!

Bearcat94

^^

:rainingontheop'sparade:





aj, do have references for that?

I don't recall seeing UOA's for PP at, say, 5,000 miles.

dj5

That is correct and it's easy to find and reaonability priced. I buy the 5w30 5 quart containers at Walmart.

erdoc48

Realistically, since the TL's engine is fully electronically controlled, would it even be possible to tell if it runs any differently after an oil change? I personally think not.

I use the M1 5W-20 EP by the way (I guess it gives me peace of mind, but dino oil would work just as well).

Said another way, the absolute crappiest oil available now is still better than the best oil of 10 years ago (assuming it follows the SAE standard at present).

friesm2000

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but it always good to spend some decent $$$, to get a quality oil though, (somewhere around the $7-8 per quart range, you start to get into some pretty good oils)


what do you expect good marketing can do?

swoosh

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why would you do that....

you can get M1 EP at Autozone or Advanced Auto Parts + a M1 filter for $35....at wally the 5 quart jug is $28 something and the filter is $13 something....

I think you can feel it....i would when i switched from M1 EP to Redline....or maybe its in my head

anx1300c

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Yes, it's in your head.

lowlife19

What oil analysis did u look at for that? Either way it's better than running conventional oil....

RainSupreme

Just put M1 EP 5W-20 in my car today, and as swoosh said Advance Auto is currently running a special for 5 quarts and an M1 Filter for 33.95

Turbonut

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Whether a change in operation is noticed when switching to a different oil is high questionable, but why the big deal over the use of Royal Purple? Oil is oil as long as it has the recommended API service designation and changed on schedule.

All the RP HP oils are GF-5 and SN approved for 2010-2011 gasoline vehicles:
0-20
5-20
5-30
10-30

Even the Long Rider 15-40 is not only approved for vehicles through 2010 with a SM rating, but also approved for diesel applications CJ-4

RP 10-40 and 5-40 are SM approved <2010

I'd steer clear of the Long Rider 5-20 and 5-30 as they are SL approved for 2004 and older vehicles.

As I said before, save money and use Dino oil that's on sale, e.g. Formula Shell from BJ's, $1.92/qt, SN GF-5 rating and I load up on it whenever on sale.

mau108

Pennzoil Platinum, Ultra and even their Regular oils are very good oils. Aside from M1,Kendall & Petro Canada Synthetic, Pennzoil Platinum and Ultra carry the HTO-06 certification. If it can stand up to the beating of a turbo charged motor, easy breezy on any other Honda motor (not heavily modified)

Pennzoil is what I use in all my cars, Accord gets regular, RDX and TL getting Platinum. I used Pennzoil in previous prelude and the motor was clean(inside) and problem free when I sold it with 217K.

A lot of the old geezers have it in their head from the mid 1900's of Pennzoil causing wax build up in their motors. It's BS.

Yes it is a Group III base stock oil so technically its not TRUE synthetic but the additives make up for it. Also it's cheap when it's on sale and it comes in 5qt jug vs 1qt bottles (where to dump my old oil?)

M1 is a good oil but its more pricey here (even on sale!) so doesn't make it worth the $$$. For that kind of money I'd rather get Castrol Edge or even Motul.

space_bound

Is it true that if you use fully synthetic motor oil that you cant use any other type later?

Bearcat94

No. You can change back-and-forth whenever you want to.

boyhamdzui

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I thought Royal Purple is a good one. Anyway I use Redline 5w20.

TheChamp531

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Another oil thread. :x

I find it funny that almost all information in this thread came from IHC.

swoosh

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its in my head coz my engine is running smooth....its it all the matters ?

Yup....it is a really good deal....be careful sometimes they have 4 quart jugs so either pickup a 5 quart jug or 5, 1 quart bottle....

also put 5w-30 in your ride man....a little more protection for the engine

i know what you mean dude....but i believe in "you get what you pay for"...i would NOT go lower than valvoline or some like that....I started doing oil changes on my own when the car hit 80K...used Penn Plat for a while...then switched to M1 EP and now to Redline....and everytime i felt my engine get smoother....with Penn Plat and M1 EP I used to seafoam her but with Redline I dont as it has enough additives and its an Esther based oil....

Yup I used Penn Plat for a while....and absolutely loved that oil....if I go back, I would go back to Penn Plat than M1 EP....and the oil was 20 bucks at wally for a 5 quart jug....me likey

A myth....

Ditto....post your results and reactions here:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=820509

but he didnt post in this thread LOL

boyhamdzui

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To be honest I feel the ATF but not the oil . Maybe because it was third oil change.

Turbonut

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I get what I paid for, a GF-5 SN Dino oil for less than 2 bucks a qt. In the millions of miles I've driven, never used a synthetic and never an engine lubrication problem, not even with the Turbo rotary (15-40 Shell Rotella). This isn't to say that a synthetic isn't valuable in a harsh environment, extremely low/high but for us Jersey people Dino will do and save me a great amount of money over time, especially with the 4 cars that are presently in the household. Do the math and see the difference, something like putting premium in a car that calls for regular, will it hurt, no, but it certainly will cost more in the end, no doubt about that.

swoosh

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i do feel the ATF and the engine oil....but then again its my second oil change....

swoosh

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Actually it will hurt....

try putting premium in a car which needs regular and you will hurt the fuel economy....its not always good to overdo or under-do.....

DMZ

OP,

Any engine would be nice and quiet after an oil change, especially a badly needed one. I use NAPA's own brand of 5w-20 synthetic which is really Valvoline SynPower with their name on it. Now up to $5.83 a quart. Works well and keeps the inside of the engine clean enough for me. No need to spend $9 for a quart for ANY motor oil.

FYI, Castrol is a bp company who's products I'm still boycotting. Just because their spill in the Gulf April of last year is off the front pages, it still doesn't change the damage the gulf is still reeling from, and will for decades to come due to their gross negligence.

I also refuse to buy Mobil1. I'm sure it's good oil, but ExxonMobil is a company that cleared $45 BILLION in profits 3 years ago while ripping us off for almost $5 a gallon at the pump, then repeated that performance this year while reaping $10 BILLION in profits in just the 1st quarter alone. So I don't think they need any of my money, OR YOURS. And BTW, why is Exxon gasoline usually an average of 10¢ a gallon higher than anyone else?
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swoosh

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dude i agree on your personal choices....but then again just coz apple reaped benefits of their products in millions and billions doesnt mean i will quit buying apple products even thow dell has better customer care....

also i have to mention my engine has been quieter and runs smoother since I put redline in....and NO my car didnt need an oil change badly....i change my oil every 5K miles with 5w-30 mobil 1 EP and M1 filter and recently switched to Redline....

emeka206

Dino for me. I change every 4-5k and i'm content
Happy Lubing!!!

demarco5

Well, if you look into profit percents you will realize oil companies only make about .05 on every dollar, where as the national average in this country for industry, USA, is around .09-.10. Now I am the first to get pissed at paying at the pump, currently halfway through masters degree with 6 figure debt...yippee.

So while I do agree seeing such large profits from companies that "hurt" the working middle class does suck, they are selling a highly demanded product and I say good for them. While I will not get into alternative energy because that is a whole other story, I will also say I heard a piece on NPR a few weeks ago that the oil companies pay around $88,000,000 a day in taxes and and fees and whatnot to our government. Now I'm not sure how you can bash a few large companies that in my opinion solely support the thousands of over payed government positions.

Not to say you can't be angry at losing a big portion of your paycheck to the pump, but the oil companies are not as bad as you may think.

demarco5

I do not work for an oil company I just think 99% of people are misinformed and should understand what is happening and why before jumping to conclusions.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/25/th...panies-part-i/

Also, I believe mentioned here, is that these companies in this field do not set their own prices whereas almost every other service, production company does...so it's kind of our fault, we do it to ourselves

swoosh

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lets not turn this thread into an crude oil war now....

lets stick to the topic of engine oils....

PS: demarco, DMZ said his personal beliefs and you are entitled to list yours but this is not the right thread for either of ya....

demarco5

Understandable Swoosh, trying to nip the problem in the butt, it will run out though and we'll exploit something else soon enough. Sadly all the TLs will be sitting on the road with the millions of other cars when that happens

In that case, Mobil 1 5W-20 Full Synthetic. Always on top in studies and always available at wally world for like $25/ 5 quart jug.

Now I read above an oil can not be fully synthetic if it's not a 0W to start. Please explain...

Turbonut

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Done it many times, no change in mileage. Why would the mileage change as the A/F ratio is maintained by the ecu?

Usually don't venture into politics, but any company with a profit of 31 billion dollars (2010) isn't paying enough taxes, period, or overcharging at the pumps. In case you want to do the math, that's a profit EACH day of $84,931,507.85. Now you know why I'm a little distressed when I fill up.

That is down from the 2008 profit of $45.2 billion. Yeah, I really feel sorry for them!

swoosh

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mobil1 is a grp3 oil....which is a mix and the additives it has makes the company claim it as a fully synthetic grp4 oil....

the only mobil 1 oils which are fully synthetic are the ones that start with 0W (this is new for me too) and the ones which are EP (Extended Performance).

again you can get a better deal on them at Advanced Auto Part than Wally....You can get the oil + M1 filter for 33-35 bucks at AAP....at wally the oil is 28 and the filter is 13....

also let the oil war go....either this informative thread will be closed or couple people will be banned....not worth it....state your opinion and call it a day