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Old 10-19-2015, 03:43 PM
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Rear Jack Points

For a transmission drain and fill is it safe to use a ramp in the front and place the rear on jack stands? Also if i use the rear jack points to lift the car, is there a alternate area for the stands?

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Use the rear tow hook to jack up the car.
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use the middle jack point (tow hook on the back middle) and then place jack stands on both sides (in front of rear wheels)
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Thanks for the response but it looks like my jack is too small to get the wheels to clear if I jack it from the tow hook. Guess I need a bigger Jack.
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If you only need another couple of inches, use a block of wood on top of the jack's saddle. Of course this advice is only if your using a good quality floor jack with a large saddle. Don't try this if you are using the dinky little jack that comes with the car.

Besides, the wheels don't need to clear the ground to perform a transmission flush. I thought you just wanted a little more room to slide under the car. In fact, just driving up on ramps may give enough room to work. How big are you anyway
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5"x5" block of wood. i have to use it on the front and rear when i jack up my car
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Lol I just wanted to have it level out with the ramp. Is there a difference of whether the car is level or leanning back to maximize the amount of fluid recovered from the transmission?
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Angle does matter how much comes out.

I jacked the front of my car up off the ground, let the fluid drain.
Then while the mass flow rate was decreasing, I figured I would lower the jack to see if more fluid would pour out. I lowered the car to the point it wont crush my oil drain pan, and a lot more fluid came out.
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Old 10-22-2015, 01:49 PM
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Just make sure your drain pan is low enough as not to be crushed when the car is lower. The only reason to jack up the car is to loosen the drain screw and lower as described by Guitarplayer16.
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Yeah that's gonna make a terrible mess otherwise.
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Instructions not clear.. OP
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If using wood, place the wood under the jack, not on the saddle.
This will allow the saddle to contact the lifting point.
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
If using wood, place the wood under the jack, not on the saddle.
This will allow the saddle to contact the lifting point.
Yes, this! Big piece of wood under jack, not on the saddle. Safer that way too.
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I don't like the idea of using wood
It works, just don't like the idea lol

You know how as you jack up the car, the jack automatically moves in towards the car more each pump?

I don't like the idea of using wood and preventing the jack from moving, puts too much stress in bad angles in an engineer student's perspective

think of it at the gym where most presses you push the weight 90 degrees up, but instead you have to push it at a 70 degree angle lol.

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^Yes, you'll need wood that would be slightly larger than the jack stance to ensure coverage if it should move, but also, the jack will pull the car in direction of the lift with no brake on when lifting from the front. When lifting from the rear the car should move with the lift, out of gear, providing this is being done on a smooth surface.
Of course, we all know about the few incidents that have been done when the car is lifted in the front and the jack isn't allowed to move, e.g. in dirt/grass or soft surface, and the car doesn't move, then the saddle ends up where the radiator resides.
Got to be careful whenever lifting a vehicle as accidents can and do occur.
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Originally Posted by guitarplayer16
I don't like the idea of using wood
It works, just don't like the idea lol

You know how as you jack up the car, the jack automatically moves in towards the car more each pump?

I don't like the idea of using wood and preventing the jack from moving, puts too much stress in bad angles in an engineer student's perspective

think of it at the gym where most presses you push the weight 90 degrees up, but instead you have to push it at a 70 degree angle lol.
Agreed

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^Yes, you'll need wood that would be slightly larger than the jack stance to ensure coverage if it should move, but also, the jack will pull the car in direction of the lift with no brake on when lifting from the front. When lifting from the rear the car should move with the lift, out of gear, providing this is being done on a smooth surface.
Of course, we all know about the few incidents that have been done when the car is lifted in the front and the jack isn't allowed to move, e.g. in dirt/grass or soft surface, and the car doesn't move, then the saddle ends up where the radiator resides.
Got to be careful whenever lifting a vehicle as accidents can and do occur.
Couldn't agree more
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Originally Posted by guitarplayer16
I don't like the idea of using wood
It works, just don't like the idea lol

You know how as you jack up the car, the jack automatically moves in towards the car more each pump?

I don't like the idea of using wood and preventing the jack from moving, puts too much stress in bad angles in an engineer student's perspective

think of it at the gym where most presses you push the weight 90 degrees up, but instead you have to push it at a 70 degree angle lol.
I always use 2 pieces of wood. 2x4 to go on jack, its soft enough that over time the jack platform made marks in it so now it sits in those slots and wont move. I then i put a 5x5 block of pinewood i believe I cut from a couch i wanted to make lower. That piece of wood is so hard even if you hit it with a hammer with the most force you can, there will barely be a dent. This gives about 6-7 inches more, I also sometimes put another 5x5 block to bring the hole car a full foot more. If i dont do that, my jack will not lift me high enough to put axle stands under subframe without doing multiple lifting procedures as its a very low profile jack that sits 2 inches off the ground.

As for the car moving when jacking up, I always put these and ram it against opposite side tire and the car never moves, or EXTREMELY minimally, like 1mm
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whenever I jack the car up by that rear tow hook it doesn't seem safe/stable at all. I wish they made the bottom of that wider and flatter.
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