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Old 02-26-2018, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Majofo
You're all over the place.. again.
Simple stuff like removing side engine mount.
Why in the world would anyone do a timing belt job
then plan to remove it again to replace the camshaft.
Are you basing lobe damage by ticking noise?
If you actually have damaged lobes, that could be much more important to address.
here is my lobes
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Originally Posted by teh CL
The overall J series engine design hasn't changed in 20 years. All the mounting locations are the same for each Honda/Acura V6 since 98'.

So yea, it's pretty damn easy to say the least. I know your inexperienced but like I said earlier, take your time & do yourself a favour, pick up a service manual or at least sign up on Alldatadiy.com. Best 20 bucks you'll spend.
i have 2011 mdx FSM.
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Old 02-26-2018, 09:38 PM
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Yup that is front camshaft. I have been driving like that for more than 2.5 years and I don’t have misfired or performance issues other than ticking engine noise. I will have to replace it at some point.
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That's bad pitting, but how are you getting this picture without removing the cam? That's not typical wear at all. My guess would be defect during process or install. You either replace with timing belt job or not at all. Might as well replace and do valve job while you're in there.
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Would that not be oil ports.
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Originally Posted by Majofo
That's bad pitting, but how are you getting this picture without removing the cam? That's not typical wear at all. My guess would be defect during process or install. You either replace with timing belt job or not at all. Might as well replace and do valve job while you're in there.
I noticed the damaged lobe while I was doing the valve adjustment!
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Originally Posted by VictorTL

I noticed the damaged lobe while I was doing the valve adjustment!
i want to do a camshaft replacement at a different time. I don’t want to mix with the timing belt, water pump, oil pump and oil pan jobs. Removing the valve cover is a lot of work
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Removing the valve covers is really easy
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I still don't understand how you got that pic
the rockers sit right over the cam
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Well, we may now have a clue as to the cause of the camshaft wear.....
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Originally Posted by Majofo
I still don't understand how you got that pic
the rockers sit right over the cam
i was able to see the camshaft lobe through the rocker as I turned the crankshaft. The rear camshaft is impossible to see. This on the front.

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Other than the pitting, the head looks good. That's a serious defect.
Even if the flake caused negligible damage, I'd report to Acura.
That should be covered IMO considering the age, miles?

If not the fight worth fighting over..
I'd pull the head off, do a full valve and cylinder inspection.
Replace cam and whatever looks worse for wear. Definitely new head gasket.
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Originally Posted by VictorTL


you are trolling
You'll have to forgive Majofo. He's still coming down off the bath salts following his naked ATV ride. Majofo, wtf were you doing in Missouri anyhow?

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Emphasis on long
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^^^^ I knew Crabman was implicated in this event somehow
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dang that is concerning!

Anyone know if a head from a 2007 TL will fit his 2011 mdx? Not sure how big of a difference the head has.
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It'll fit but the MDX has the updated cat design.
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I don't think the head will mate.
The header of an 07 is different from an 04 TL.
Code stamp on a head is the last two digits on the engine code.
If it don't match, it's not worth the trouble of finding out.
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Not only that, but we're talking a J32 vs J35
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Originally Posted by teh CL
It'll fit but the MDX has the updated cat design.
Wait.. are you talking headers?
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Originally Posted by Majofo
Not only that, but we're talking a J32 vs J35
J37 vs J32/5
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Well what the hell do I know, nothing
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It is a j37 series. I just bought the camshaft and I read the FSM on how to remove and install it. It is pretty straight forward. There is no need to remove the block. Just remove intake, the cylinder cover, rocker arm assembly, timing belt, camshaft pulley, batter, EGR....and slide out the camshaft. But it lots of removing parts.
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Here Are all the parts I ordered from oemacuraparts for this project
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MDX you say... Should move it to that subforum me thinks?
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How many miles?

Unless it's been done recently, you might as well replace the timing belt/tensioner.
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
MDX you say... Should move it to that subforum me thinks?
that mdx forum is dead that why I am asking for advices here!
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Originally Posted by teh CL
How many miles?

Unless it's been done recently, you might as well replace the timing belt/tensioner.
84k miles. I am going to do oil pump, oil pan , water pump, t belt, hydraulic tensioner
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Parts are here and PARTY TIME!!

Time to tear down and let’s PARTY!!
replacing front camshaft, timing belt, water pump, remove oil pump!!

Parts



New camshaft. What is the slot with the green arrow for?

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Bad camshaft

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Never seen that before...
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How did that happen?? Didn't know this was a thing..
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Can I use this technique to remove camshaft??


this how they remove the camshaft on nissen and I wondering if I can do it on Honda
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How does a cam shaft go bad?
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Wow, I've seen cam spalling on some Honda 4-Cylinder engines; I've never seen it on one of the J-Series motors, that looks really bad. Hopefully you bought new cam followers as well.
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Originally Posted by horseshoez
Wow, I've seen cam spalling on some Honda 4-Cylinder engines; I've never seen it on one of the J-Series motors, that looks really bad. Hopefully you bought new cam followers as well.
what is a cam followers? You mean the rocker arm riding on that lobe? I just bought a a front camshaft only.

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