wizlb

Which one will you buy.

The power skyline is coming.

G35... rear wheel drive over 300 HP. 2 door, four seats.

And able to add so much more power in a skyline.

ClnOB

I dont think that is the actual Skyline.

TranTL

The Skyline engine is in the G35, Not tuned like the original Skyline Though. Correct me if i am wrong

Dr.Murdock

I got an 04TL now and i love it. But i am craving power, though the TL for sure doesnt lack it, i want more, i need some fun. I will wait till 2008 to get a new car, and will leab towards a more sportier car. But i am sure the TL would be upgraded to compete by then, it would be senseless not to. I would love if acura created a tl coupe, like hte one which was photoshopped. I would love that.

EleVatE

Hey can you give a link in this thread to that photoshopped TL coupe. I'd love to see it.

Treblig

That M35/45 looks pretty sweet.

caball88

not at all, the G35 engine is the VQ35 which is a 3.5 liter v6 engine. the real skyline engine is the RB26DETT which is a 2.6 liter inline 6 engine that is twin turbo charged. in stock form its rated at about 280hp but it actually puts out well over 300. it is very tunable and can be modified easily for 400-500hp monster. if nissan brings this skyline engine to the us and puts it in the G35 coupe i think i am trading in my TL.

insmanblue

What Nissan needs to do is to spend less money on performance and more money on interiors.

clocks

If I were to trade my TL in, I would look at the new 3-series coming out. I like the new look, but I am not sure how much they will cost.

caball88

uh... the new look is kinda akward. its suppose to be the sportier of their series of cars and now looks alot more family sedan than sports sedan. i have not seen a 2 door version of the car but the four door is kinda bulky. maybe it takes some getting use to but right now i am on the fence.

clocks

I have only seen a few pictures, but I like the new look. I also like the new look of the 5 and 7 series. I just question some of the engines BMW uses, as they seem to be lacking HP/Torque.

ramzfan

I saw it in Sport Import magazine and it is nice. It's the 2007 GTR. It was being run in Germany on a track and had the steering wheel on the left side for export to USA. It's coming according to the Presidendt f Nissan, and it's going to be sweet. It was wearing a Infiniti grill in the photos I saw. I think they were saying it's in the neighborhood of 400hp also. The downside is that it's probably going to be around 50K to buy one.

Aquineas

ramzfan

Try this and scroll down to the posting by Edmunds. That's the beast: http://forums.freshalloy.com/ubbthre...b=5&o=&fpart=1

F23A4

Just to clarify, the RB26DETT motor is in the R34 GTR which is ancient history (read: legendary status). Unofficially, it put out somewhere between 320-335hp. (I read this in one of the UK mags). That 400-500hp tunability is VERY conservative as several have around 1,000hp and are street legal.

The new Infiniti G35 (coupe & sedan) is the new V35 JDM Nissan Skyline 350GT. The current G35 is already near that "325hp" level so a GTR model at those same levels would be a disappointment in a relative sense. However, rumor has it that the upcoming GTR (V36 chassis) will have a high output VK45DE motor (re: FX45, Q45, M45). Time will tell.

caball88

i have seen lots of skylines get modified for 1000hp but that takes alot of $$$ to do so. when i said 4-5 hundred easy i meant it was vert simple to do and did not require alot of internal work on the engine. simple bolt-on toys like exhaust, intake, intercooler and boost controller will get you up there.

caball88

if they sell a GTR that makes 400+ horsepower for about 50K i would say its a pretty good deal. there are not that many cars that come with that much horsepower in stock form for that price(only domestics).

J RIDE 81

You never know what else will be on the market by that time. We'll have to wait and see.

ramzfan

You could do a WRX Sti with a ton of mods. It's not as smooth around the edges as a GTR, but it would definitely tear up the road or track. There is that whole ugly rear wing issue though.....

caball88

yes you can but its not the same as a GTR because from the pictures it looks like a modified G35 coupe which if brought to the US will retain some of the luxurious features of infiniti. the STI is a fast car but the packaging inside and out is more honda civic than anything else. For 50K a 400+ hp luxury coupe is pretty insane. other cars that might fit the bill are say the bmw 645 or mercedes CLK 500 which cost alot more than 50K.

crazymjb

I want info on the 06 TL. We will most likely be getting the TL in the Spring or Summer. If the 06 isnt too mcuh steeper then the 05s My dad will probably get one. Is it a whole new Gen or is it just more small perfections?

caball88

06 TL will probably be just like the 04/05 with maybe a couple of minor cosmetic changes. If you use the previous gen as an example there was no model change after 2 years of production. maybe they might offer a type-s version but again its just speculation.

apwalsh

Acura really should bring back the CL to directly compete with the G35Coupe and possible upcoming Skyline. They will be able to grab a much larger chunk of the marketplace than they already have with the redesigned TL. Whoever photochopped that TL into a Coupe should really send it in to someone at Acura. Although I wouldn't be completely suprised if they wasn't a coupe already in the works at Acura and it's being kept hush-hush.

cliff

yes...the hp war is back!!!

PG2G

Personally, I'm expecting the new Skyline to be in the 60-70k range, which would put it in an entirely different category.

ONAGER

http://www.skylinegtr.com/SPECS.html

here are some specs on the true skyline motor.... im sad to hear the RB26DETT isnt going to make it to the us market... it was an absolute beast of a motor. way under rated look at the trap speed and quarter mile time road and track got in 99 at the above link13.7 @ 103.5.... the estamate it made upwards of 320 stock... and with simple mods it would easily pass 500hp... built (in magazines and on the net) i have seen upwards of 750hp with a stock block and crank!!!! and im sure there is some one who has tuned more....

the vq is a fine NA motor, but its just that NA.... i want to see a snarly turbo if my car says skyline. preferably twin turbo.... and from what i have seen so far there not going to turbo the vq....

here is a good article on the skyline
http://www.jbskyline.net/R34/GTR/

softtower

Last time I drove japanese skyline back in russia it was turbocharged inline-six. don't recall model year though

caball88

that's a pretty hefty sum to pay for a nissan. if it was sold at that price there might not be as many buyers. first off it's still a G35 so alot of the components will still be the same so i can't see production cost jumping so much. if the car was to start selling at that price range then you are in direct competition with the german cars i listed. i would rather get a bmw 645 which is listed at just under 70K or a mercedes CLK. The CLK500 is 55K and the AMG version is just a bit over 70K. so it would be a no brainer to go with the AMG CLK which puts out 362hp that amount of money.

poisx7

iTrader: (1)

that is crazy sick, wouldn't almost belive a 2.6 litre engine putting out over 400hp , what a hell ? even with all the FI in the world. no NOS.
in that case one asked this question whats the point of having a 5.8/6.0 litre engine (american way) corvette Ls6, dodge SVTs........................

ramzfan

I agree. The test car that ran in Germany hasd Infiniti badging on it, which may be their way of driving up the price. But for 70K I can get a a new Z06 with 500hp, or a Boxster S. I think it will be more like 50-55k loaded.

F23A4

I have reason to believe that the GTR test car spied @ the ring was more of a powertrain tester, as in a prospective GTR powertrain was being tested using the current V35 Skyline. (Not unlike Chevrolet using the old Isuzu built Spectrum as powertrain testers for their future - at the time - Saturn SL/SC.)

PDX3.2TL

here's a little help...





A little information for all...:

British Call The Tune On New GT-R


t's set to be Japan's fastest and most advanced supercar - but look under the skin and it's Britain's brains which will power Nissan's new GT-R!

Exclusive pictures in the current issue of Auto Express magazine show how the new supercoupé will look when it storms on to our roads, and the cutaway detail reveals the technology which is set to make it the most advanced car in the world. But it's not only Nissan engineers who can claim the credit - our sources say British legend Cosworth has been called in to help tweak the engine, while Lotus is involved in fine-tuning the suspension.

The 'International Specification' GT-R, which will be sold throughout the world for the first time, is set to get a version of the 3.5-litre V6 engine used in the 350Z coupé, but will have electrically assisted twin turbochargers to boost power without sapping too much energy. Cosworth's expertise will be used to make sure the V6's block, head, pistons and crank are all strong enough.

Nissan knows it has to do something really special with the next GT-R, partly because the 350Z performs so well, but also as it's the first globally oriented version of the car, and expectations are high among the 'Playstation generation' of buyers who are familiar with the model from video games consoles.

The company has asked for around 400bhp and 490Nm of torque, but more realistic figures given emissions regulations are 350bhp and 450Nm. To reach production, the car must meet strict Euro4 exhaust regulations. The V6 will be mated to a six-speed Getrag gearbox, with a

CVT due a year after launch in early 2005. The auto is undergoing final development, but apparent slippage trouble due to the excessive power has been plaguing prototypes. Insiders have confirmed the GT-R will incorporate an updated version of Nissan's Atessa 4WD system with an active limited slip differential. This new arrangement means torque is distributed between the front and rear wheels not only in response to traction loss, but also as a result of changes in the engine's output.

The FM platform used in the new range of Skyline and Infiniti G35 coupés in Japan and the US is basically good enough, but needs some fine-tuning to handle the extra power - and that's where Lotus comes in. A new hydraulic active suspension system, co-developed with Lotus, will feature. The Norfolk firm's expertise in this area will ensure the car handles like no other GT-R before, and can satisfy the soft-riding expectations of American buyers with the traction and high-speed handling required by the British and German markets.
Its brakes promise to be special, too, with larger Brembo discs controlled by a newly revised brake-by-wire unit which promises to give the sporty feel and feedback enthusiastic drivers demand.

But while the dynamics are groundbreaking, many fans will be disappointed by the looks. Although the car is clearly linked to the 2001 Tokyo Motor Show concept, some of the more aggressive touches have been watered down in favour of a more mainstream appearance. The final production version will debut at next October's Tokyo event.
Peter Lyon
Comments: 0 Article from: Auto Express

LessisBestmakingendsmeet

The Skyline is a G35. It already has more HP than a TL
The GT-R is an all out sports car that would hand the TL, any TL its ass.

Why are we making this comparison?

caball88

the question is if Acura puts out a 2 door version of the TL and nissan puts out this new GTR which would you get. it's really apples to oranges at this point when you talk about a car that can put that much power to the ground.

VelfarreClubber

Is this real or cgi?

shodog

WTF?? if you want comfort buy a Lexus

ONAGER

cgi... look at the headlights....

ONAGER

cost.... those engines are easy and cost effective to build.... also the gas milage is surprisingly good on them (corvette gets nearly 30 mpg) the skyline is dead down low... you need to rev it to make power. those american monsters push u back as soon as you prod the throttle

lbbrando

That looks bad ass!!!!
I also heard IF they do release the skyline gt-r it will probally be around 90k us dollars. In no class what so ever with the Tl.

VelfarreClubber

It does look bad ass, I love the color! why couldn't acura have a red like that on our TL's ?? They did it on the rsx and tsx. I wonder if gran turismo 4 looks like this.