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New Owner of 190K 3rd Gen.
Hello All!
A proud new owner of a third gen TL Base with Manual transmission with 190K on the clock. I'm planning on doing the TB/Water Pump service soon. Did the pads/rotors all around and just replaced the motor mounts (they were shot!) with Innovative Solid Mounts. Did the Tein Street Basis coilovers. Everything else seems fine. Will do the plugs along with TB/WP. Is there anything else I should do maintenance-wise? I know these motors run forever. But I need a pretty reliable car to daily to lug around two baby seats soon, so if there's anything else I should look into, please chime-in. Thanks in advance. |
Congrats and welcome. I would add fluids and air filter to your list.
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PCV valve is cheap and an easy replace, takes literally 1-2 minutes. Most won't be replaced in their life sadly but it can fix/prevent ton of issues.
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Originally Posted by NCTLS
(Post 16346515)
Congrats and welcome. I would add fluids and air filter to your list.
Originally Posted by jaydubz
(Post 16346554)
PCV valve is cheap and an easy replace, takes literally 1-2 minutes. Most won't be replaced in their life sadly but it can fix/prevent ton of issues.
Here's what I have on my Amazon Prime list of things to order: 1) Aisin TKH-002 Engine Timing Belt Kit 2) Aisin THH-009 Thermostat + Gasket 3) OEM Camshaft/Crankshaft Seal Kit 4) ACDelco 10-4014 Friction Modified Synchromesh 5) NGK 6994 IZFR6K-11 Plugs 6) OEM Honda PCV Valve 17130-RCA-A02 I think that's all I got so far. Any more suggestions for maintenance or any specific parts I should look into? Highly appreciate it. Thanks everyone! |
Don't ignore the rest of the fluids in the car.....bleed the brakes and replace the power steering fluid.
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So while installing my Aspec Rear lip on the TL, I noticed there's some oil leak right down by the oil pan. I asked my mechanic to check it out. He said that it could be from the crankshaft seal (known issue on these TLs) and maybe from the Power Steering pump or the valve cover gasket. I am planning on doing the seals when I do the TB/WP service and will do the valve cover gaskets as wells. However, I want to change the O-rings on the Power Steering Pump to see if it will solve the issue. Starting from small/easier things first. Now my question is, would the O-rings failure on the PS Pump cause the fluid leak? Or how do I differentiate the PS Pump failure VS leak due to O-rings failure? Any help is appreciated. Thank you!
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Got pics? |
I spent a lot of time looking at my PS Pump since I got the car (been about two years now). I tried almost everything from doing a PS Fluid wash to essentially rebuilding the pump (there's a good DIY on the forums here). First thing you can do is look at your PS Pump. If you notice a buildup of sludge (i.e. the PS Pump is black), then you should consider replacing the o-rings within the pump followed by a fluid wash with genuine Honda PS Fluid (~$5/bottle) from the dealership. If your power steering is back and you don't hear a whining noise when you turn the wheel, then your PS Pump is good to go. If you're still experiencing a whine when turning the steering wheel, then you should consider replacing the PS Pump altogether.
But this is assuming your steering rack is fine. Power Steering Pump Overhaul (essentially a basic rebuild) - https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...-scans-841134/ If you did have pictures, however, that would be a lot more helpful. Take a look at your steering rack from the engine bay and you'll easily be able to tell if your rack is failing. Also, if you're planning on doing the valve cover gaskets yourself, make sure you also replace the spark tube seals! |
Originally Posted by jkim4296
(Post 16356145)
I spent a lot of time looking at my PS Pump since I got the car (been about two years now). I tried almost everything from doing a PS Fluid wash to essentially rebuilding the pump (there's a good DIY on the forums here). First thing you can do is look at your PS Pump. If you notice a buildup of sludge (i.e. the PS Pump is black), then you should consider replacing the o-rings within the pump followed by a fluid wash with genuine Honda PS Fluid (~$5/bottle) from the dealership. If your power steering is back and you don't hear a whining noise when you turn the wheel, then your PS Pump is good to go. If you're still experiencing a whine when turning the steering wheel, then you should consider replacing the PS Pump altogether.
But this is assuming your steering rack is fine. Power Steering Pump Overhaul (essentially a basic rebuild) - https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...-scans-841134/ If you did have pictures, however, that would be a lot more helpful. Take a look at your steering rack from the engine bay and you'll easily be able to tell if your rack is failing. Also, if you're planning on doing the valve cover gaskets yourself, make sure you also replace the spark tube seals! |
Originally Posted by jaydubz
(Post 16346554)
PCV valve is cheap and an easy replace, takes literally 1-2 minutes. Most won't be replaced in their life sadly but it can fix/prevent ton of issues.
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Placebo effect.
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Originally Posted by mhtut83
(Post 16356199)
Thank you for the insight. I actually did the TB/WP service today and my mechanic said there's definitely leaking from the PS Pump itself. There's a build-up of sludge and it does wine when I turn the steering wheel. Did the O-rings a couple weeks ago. Didn't really solve the issue. So I am looking into getting it replaced. I checked online and there's such a wide range of prices from $65 to $130 for a PS Pump. Any recommendations for an aftermarket one?
Also, some aftermarket PS Pumps won’t come with the actual pulley so you’d have to take it to a shop that can swap it out for you. I think I went with one from Amazon. If I can find the link once I get home, I’ll share it with you. |
PS Pulley is easy to take off and put back on, just loosen and tighten it before you unscrew the PS pump assembly
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Originally Posted by GhostTL09
(Post 16356638)
PS Pulley is easy to take off and put back on, just loosen and tighten it before you unscrew the PS pump assembly
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Originally Posted by mhtut83
(Post 16356679)
There was a small crack on PS Pump return hose. And I just had it replaced today. Let's see if that solves the issue. If not, then my next step would be to replace the PS Pump.
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Originally Posted by horseshoez
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Can I ask a small favor of you; would you lose the bold type, it makes it sound as if you're yelling at the rest of us. Thanks in advance.
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It is
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:rofl:
welcome to the boards... Sounds like you're a seasoned mechanic...gonna be fun tinkering on the J. I miss mine a lot... Upload a few pictures...we're lazy and words are hard! |
Originally Posted by rockstar143
(Post 16356722)
:rofl:
welcome to the boards... Sounds like you're a seasoned mechanic...gonna be fun tinkering on the J. I miss mine a lot... Upload a few pictures...we're lazy and words are hard! |
What fun is that?!
Put it in here! Yeah, I feel you, man...I went from a one to a 3 to a 2 car garage to now I have space for my tools in my gf's garage but have to work in the driveway in 80 degree weather. I guess I shouldn't complain! |
Originally Posted by mhtut83
(Post 16356717)
Ha! I thought CAPITALIZING WAS YELLING?
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I think bold isn't yelling...just caps!
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Maybe my old eyes are more sensitive. :tongue:
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
(Post 16356876)
I think bold isn't yelling...just caps!
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Originally Posted by jkim4296
(Post 16356248)
The issue with aftermarket ones are that they tend to fail sooner than OEM ones (as expected due to the difference in build quality). However, depending on the company you choose to go with, you may have lifetime warranty with an aftermarket part or a limited 2-year warranty for a remanufactured one with a core exchange. So it’d really be your personal preference, but I think a lifetime warranty sounds better to me lol. Also, some aftermarket PS Pumps won’t come with the actual pulley so you’d have to take it to a shop that can swap it out for you. I think I went with one from Amazon. If I can find the link once I get home, I’ll share it with you. The PS Pump I bought: PS Pulley that I wish I saw earlier: Again, because these are aftermarket, don't think it'll fix your PS forever lol. Mine's been alright so far, but I'm just waiting for it to fail at some point due to the nature of aftermarket parts in general lol. |
Originally Posted by jkim4296
(Post 16360203)
Sorry it took me so long to reply, I was away for some other obligations. How has your PS been since you replaced the cracked hose? I hope it's been doing fine!
The PS Pump I bought: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074JMD1X1...233_lv_dp_vv_d PS Pulley that I wish I saw earlier: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N3ULQXP...233_lv_dp_vv_d Again, because these are aftermarket, don't think it'll fix your PS forever lol. Mine's been alright so far, but I'm just waiting for it to fail at some point due to the nature of aftermarket parts in general lol. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...0e068ba0ca.png https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...83a6896b5d.png My next question is, is it essential that I replaced the pulley as well? Mine seems to be in OK shape and was thinking of just reusing it. As far as the oil leak goes, the main leak seems to have stopped after replacing the oil filter housing gasket, Vtec solenoid gasket and O-rings (Thank God! It wasn't from the whole oil pump assembly!). Now there's some oil leak from the valve cover gasket on the front. I've already ordered the gasket kit. Just waiting for the weather to warm up a bit so I could do both the plugs and the valve cover gaskets. |
Originally Posted by mhtut83
(Post 16360361)
Thanks for the reply. I actually ordered a PSP from Amazon already. Its got good reviews and the price seemed to be OK so I pulled the trigger. Should be here sometimes next week.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...0e068ba0ca.png https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...83a6896b5d.png My next question is, is it essential that I replaced the pulley as well? Mine seems to be in OK shape and was thinking of just reusing it. As far as the oil leak goes, the main leak seems to have stopped after replacing the oil filter housing gasket, Vtec solenoid gasket and O-rings (Thank God! It wasn't from the whole oil pump assembly!). Now there's some oil leak from the valve cover gasket on the front. I've already ordered the gasket kit. Just waiting for the weather to warm up a bit so I could do both the plugs and the valve cover gaskets. To answer your question, it isn’t essential to use a new pulley, just easier for some people. If I’m not mistaken, various people have said that you need a high torque impact wrench to be able to take off the pulley. I took my pump to my mechanic and had him remove the pulley and put it onto my new pump as a result. If you have all the necessary tools, then I don’t think it’d be much of an issue for you, especially if the pulley seems to be okay! Ahhh you’re lucky! The Acura dealership told me my oil pump was leaking, but that could also just be them trying to get some money off of me lol. I plan on doing all the oil leak work once I change my clutch. And yeah, I would say wait to do some work because working in the cold sucks. Just make sure you check your oil once in a while and add as needed :). That’s what I’ve been doing and no problems yet. Takes some pocket change from my wallet but it beats running your car on little to no oil lol. |
Originally Posted by jkim4296
(Post 16360366)
oh nice! Good to hear :). Could you link the PS Pump you ordered just for future reference? Lol. To answer your question, it isn’t essential to use a new pulley, just easier for some people. If I’m not mistaken, various people have said that you need a high torque impact wrench to be able to take off the pulley. I took my pump to my mechanic and had him remove the pulley and put it onto my new pump as a result. If you have all the necessary tools, then I don’t think it’d be much of an issue for you, especially if the pulley seems to be okay! Ahhh you’re lucky! The Acura dealership told me my oil pump was leaking, but that could also just be them trying to get some money off of me lol. I plan on doing all the oil leak work once I change my clutch. And yeah, I would say wait to do some work because working in the cold sucks. Just make sure you check your oil once in a while and add as needed :). That’s what I’ve been doing and no problems yet. Takes some pocket change from my wallet but it beats running your car on little to no oil lol. |
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