23109VC

I haven't driven a new accord, but seen many of them on the road. the coupe looks cool, the sedan almost looks 5 series "ish" to me.

I'm REALLY close to pulling the trigger on a TL. going to look at more of them tomorrow after work.

a relative of mine works at a honda dealer and said he can "get me a deal" on a new honda. they have a V6 w/nav in stock. MSRP is $31k. i'm guessing I could get it for a few grand less than that...

how does the new V6 Accord drive compared to the 3G TL?

i'd be comparing the Accord to a base TL. the Accord actually has more power, but i'm guessing the drivingi d ynamics are not hte same and the accord feels "cheaper" even though it's still a nice car..

am I on the mark and the accord will feel "cheap" , or is the new Accord the "same" as a TL???

pnoi521

My mom has the 08 accord coupe v6. It feels a bit faster becuase of the bigger engine and i think there is more low end torque. Also, the suspension in the coupes feels better than the TLs when cornering, but its still smooth over the bumps. Its fun to drive my moms car once in a while, but its always nice to get back into my 06 TL at the end of the day. it's a lot more comfortable and luxurious than the accord.

ray-ban

Feel cheaper? Most certainly not. The new gen Accord is very refined and the TL is based on the Accord platform. The Accord actually does give the 3G a good run for its money, but in the end the TL is still the luxury version.

It doesn't have the same sportiness as the TL, but is certainly a good highway cruiser. Have not tried the coupe, but I'm not a fan of the shape. I prefer the prev gen (2006 for ex). Can't go wrong with either car really, but if you can get a great deal on an Accord that you cant get in a TL (which I'm sure you can), then sure, pull the trigger.

Test drive them both and see what gives you the biggest grin factor.

Dave_W

271 HP @6200 rpm, 254 lbft of tourque@ 5000 rpm. Not hard to top those numbers with a J32 engine. Other than the TL being based on the accord the two will never be the same. The VCM on the new accord is cool. The new accord is a great car, I just prefer a TL. The choice is up to you. Honda says the new Accord V6 can run on regular, with 10.5 : 1 compression. LOL

JwongTLS

basically ur looking at a "HONDA TL"

just stick with the type s and get it asap!!

stillhere153

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I'd take a v6 accord manual sedan over a base tl

And I'd take a coupe v6 manual over the type s

But I won't take type s for accord sedan

ggesq

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^ Al, Honda does not make a V6 sedan in MT. I wish they did though.

narnia

Why is it that the Accord V6 can run on regular but the TL needs premium?

TypeSDragon

The new accord definitely is not a "cheap" vehicle. My brother in law has one and I actually went to buy it with him a month or so ago. And the materials and design in the accord are similar to the 3G TL. The test drive was pleasant, it has sportiness, but also softer suspension compared to my TypeS. I like the lighter steering and the IVTEC engine is very preppy. So you can't go wrong with the accord, but I never really like the exterior styling, but the interior is very updated similar to the TSX.

j1n

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I like the new accord v6 cuope. saw one over the weekend with some nice rims and it was lowered, looked really good.

esco786

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I've test driven the V4 accord (actually impressive) and the V6 accord..i found their drive to be simliar like the TL. Base TL > Accord V6 still because of all the features and luxury. They're kind of in the same class but not in the same class know what I mean? I was also deciding between the accord and TL but was happy to take the TL instead.

DMZ

I see more 2008/9 Accords on the road than any other new car.

Seems Honda Motor Co. isn't being affected by the recession as much as other car makers are.
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JTS97Z28

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I would say with all the complaints guys on the forums have about rattles and crap on the 04-06 TL interiors I bet the new Accord V6 is more refined on the inside than the older 04-06 TL's. And according to the HP figures it will be faster as well. In the end when you think about it even though the TL is considered more of a luxury car it really doesnt have ANY options over the Accord (except maybe what voice activation and HID's).
If I was in the market I would seriously consider getting a new loaded Accord V6 over a 04-06 TL. 07/08 TL's seem more refined and updated to me so I would for sure still get the 07/08 TL over the Accord. No question about the Type S.

James

pnoi521

the accords with navi have HFL and voice commands...

rockstar143

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My GF has a new accord coupe and I have a 3G...her car is great on gas (I4) but other than that, the TL wins in every aspect IMO. And having installed wiring in both...I can say that the accord materials and interior DOES feel cheap in comparison.

wall e

i LOVE(seriously) the front of the new accords but the rear is ugly both the coupe and sedan rears.And yes the accord is cheap, the rear lights arent LED like the TL. the Accord interior is nice, looks like a 09 TSX interior. I say get the TL, it looks nice inside and out.

but if ur gonna spend 31K on a V6 accord, juss get a 09 TSX.

BEAR-AvHistory

I would buy a new Accord 6spd coupe over a used TL at the drop of a hat. I am happy with my '06 6spd, but new is new. It has the same underskin as the new 4G with all its improvements over the older version which they have been running in Acuras case since 2004.

You can get a coupe all up with navigation/6spd along with a new car warranty for mid $29K not including $1500 dealer cash or the 2.9%/24/36 - 3.9%/60 months financing.

VQPower37

get the TL ... its a better car! ... accord is basically ALMOST a TL

lldknyll26

can v6 accord coupe or sedan take on TL-Type S? What are the options thats available on the TLs that arent available on Honda Accords? My friend just ended up purchasing a loaded accord over 08 base TL. Can someone do a breakdown of pros and cons when comparing TLs to accord?

gatrhumpy

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If you're comparing the current Accord to the previous TL, here are the differences (depending on trim level of either car):

Accord:

-Has fold-down rear seat.
-More interior room (depending on dimensions)



TL

-Has ELS Surround Sound system
-Has rear air vents
-Has ventilated leather (although the 6-speed Accord has ventilated leather too)
-Has HID headlights
-More plastic underneath the hood
-Bigger standard wheels
-Available Brembo calipers, rotors, and pads
-Has NavTraffic (on 07-08 TLs)
-Memory seats, mirrors, and steering wheel
-Sunroof controls by rear-view mirror
-Standard foglights (on 07-08 TLs)
-Power lumbar support
-More power

For me, I really wanted the Acura, but could not afford (at the time) the extra $7K for only 5% more of the same features. Now, since I have the TL engine cover, a Dolby Prologic II 5.1 surround sound system, and 17" wheels, I have even more of the features of the TL. I'm glad I made the choice that I made.

ggesq

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The TL will also have a better warranty(assuming you buy one w/ low enough miles to make a difference), loaner cars (provided the dealer participates- most do) and Acura Roadside Assitance.

BEAR-AvHistory

I would say they are all close enough for government work.

The three tests are not absolutes since the same car will run different ET's from morning to afternoon or night on the same track.

The only contestant is how the cars were tested since its the same magazine conducting them.

Accord 6spd Coupe

Horsepower: 271 hp
Max Horsepower: 6200 rpm

Torque: 251 ft-lbs
Max Torque: 5000 rpm

Curb Weight: 3459 lbs.

C&D Test

0-to-60-mph time: 5.6 sec
Quarter-mile time: 14.2 sec @ 102 mph

TL-S 6spd

Horsepower: 286 hp
Max Horsepower: 6200 rpm

Torque: 256 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 5000 rpm

Curb Weight: 3563 lbs

C&D Test

0-to-60-mph time: 5.5 sec
Quarter-mile time: 14.1 sec @ 101 mph

TL 6spd (2006)

Horsepower: 258 hp
Max Horsepower: 6200 rpm
Torque: 233 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 5000 rpm


Curb Weight: 3503 lbs.

C&D Test

0 to 60 mph time: 5.6 sec
Quarter -mile: 14.3 sec @ 99 mph

On the street the 0-60 times are so close its a drivers race based on who can launch better. Anything more then that take it to the track.

ChocolatePuma

My father in law had a 2008 Accord EX-L V6. He drove my 2007 TL-S and went and got a 4G TL 2 weeks later because he liked my 3G TL-S a lot better than his Accord

23109VC

okay for starters...

I'm NOT considering an 04-06 TL. I don't like the steering wheel/gauges of the "older" TL...I think the 07-08 looks a lot cleaner - so IF I get a tL, it's either going to be a Type S, or a base w/nav. I could just get a base w/out nav, but I really kind of want the nav system. I know you can buy the aftermarket units, but it's so much cleaner/nicer to have it in the dash...

so - I have NOT test driven a new accord, but maybe I should. I always assumed the new Accord would ride softer and be more of a "comfortable" ride and less firm. The TL, even the base, rides pretty firm and has tight steering - giving it a sportier feel.

although the new Accord is larger inside. I believe it has quite a bit more legroom.

I havne't checked all the little differences between the Accord V6 and TL. I really don't ant the 4 banger. I test drove several 09 TSXs..both auto and 6 speed...and while I really like the look/feel of the new TSX, it is just too gutless. I know it has nice top end..but after having driven 6 cylinders and turbo volvos most of my adult life - I'm used to TORQUE - and the TSX has NONE. I drove a TSX 4 banger and a base TL - and it was like night / day. I'd rather hvae a 3G base TL over the new TSX 4 banger. I'd LOVE to get the TSX V6 - best of both worlds..but Acura has got the pricing way too high on that car....

cars I'm considering righ tnow are the IS350 (used CPO), TL-S (CPO), Base TL w/nav (CPO), and maybe the Accord.

I test drove a Pontiac G8 and really liked it...but it wasn't quite as luxurious as I wanted and I"m worried about long term reliability / availability of parts..etc. but that was a nice ride! can you say TORQUE!!! 380 lbs of it...

anyway.... having never driven the accord, my guess is that it would be more "cheapy" feeling. My sister in law has an 06 accord and I drove it, and though it was nice, but it felt light/flimsy. it' sa V6, but it didn't feel nearly as nice as a comparable TL.

the "new" Accord is essentially all new looking, has more hp than the TL, and will look "fresher" for longer...my fear is that the driving experience will be less sporty, more boring, and more "appliance" like...... i want a car to get from point A to B, but I also want it to be luxurious, somehwat sporty, and fun to drive...

TheChamp531

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OP, no offense, you made so many threads on TL vs .... and you still haven't decided yet. You can't go wrong with most cars in this price range as long as you maintain your car. TL is an all around great car combining luxury, performance, and quality. You couldn't go wrong with the Accord also but the rear is ugly. Just get the TL, buy body kit and get a drop with a specs than prepare to save up money for the turbo!

TheChamp531

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Also the new Tsx will have a v6 280 hp

23109VC

yeah yeah...i know I Put up a bunch of threads... but i want to get all your opinions.

I like the TL, but I'm researching a lot of other cars. nothing wrong with being infomred. it's a large purchase, and as I'm not going to lease, i'm gonna have whatever I buy for at least the next 5-6 years. maybe longer. i kept my last car for about 100k miles. I bought it used with 30k and sold it with 140k.

I've ruled out many cars just by test driving them or by getting feedback.

I ruled out the C class by seeing it in person. Ruled out the E class by driving it. boring.

I keep coming back to the TL. maybe I'll get an S. I'm back out looing at some more tonight...

JTS97Z28

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For sure get the 07/08 Type S. It has more HP than all the above mentioned, handles and brakes better than all of them, is much more rare than all of them, and lastly looks better. The Type S also compares in fuel economy as well.
It probably rides stiffer than all of them but its still super comfy and great for normal cruising. I love mine and cant get enough of it.

TheChamp531

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Get the type s nbp you won't be disapointed don't forget it's a buyers market

23109VC

my favorite color is WDP. with tinted windows, it's just HOT! the carbon bronze also is cool on the type S as the paint matches the wheels almost perfectly. with the black front calipers..it has this nice color combo that all flows very nicely.

i'm looking at more tonight. my only problem is that i refuse to pay the ridiclous prices the dealers are asking. I have seen several 2008 Type S models and they are asking 33-35k for them. I had written offers for NEW 08s at $32k. NEW. so no way any used one is worth MORE than a new one was 12 months ago...

i figure a nice 2008 with 15k on it is worth maybe 28-29k. CPO. I'd pay that. not a dime more.

an 07 should be 26-27, with slightly more miles..25k or so.

Cerezo

I think you should just forget about the 32k offer you had. It was a great deal but you passed it and it's not the same deal any more. On the other hand, you'll have to make a decision for yourself in the end. I'll tell you what though, if you get something else you'll keep thinking about the TL-S. Grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.

Keep in mind that used car prices have gone up even though everything else has gone down.

ggesq

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Nothing personal towards the OP as I hope you find the car you want at the price point you want to pay but I am kind of glad to hear that the used TL market is still kind of high for late model TL's. Gotta love the resale value on these cars.

Jackass

When I was shopping about a year ago, I was going between a new Accord coupe and a Subaru Legacy GT. Then I happened to stumble on my '06 TL and bought it two days later. I drove the Accord and the TL within 2 days of each other. I noticed the Accord has more road noise than the TL. The interior was nice, but just didn't feel as warm and inviting as the TL. It was more engineered and cold feeling if that makes any sense.

MR1

IMHO, the new Accord may be lighter, faster, less expensive and get better gas mileage, but still is not better than a TL. The materials are somewhat better in the TL, the overall feel is better as is the warranty. It is still a win-win, choose the one you like best.

Pricing, the dealers make money where they can. Limited number of 06-07 TL-S's available, unlimited number of ugly Gen 4's available. You get to decide how much you want to pay, the market determines what product will sell for, GL.

lldknyll26

I cant believe the new accord can take our 3GTL-S. Never test drove or been inside the new accord. Accord should have been the new TSX. Why would anyone purchase TSX over Accord. Even with v6 TSX 280 hp, accord will be neck to neck with tsx for less money. They really bumped up the new v6 accord. Oh i forgot, in europe TSX is the new honda accord. Honda should have put accord as one of Acuras line up.

rockstar143

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Actually, in Europe...they don't even have the US Accord body style. The TSX is the accord...at least in Switzerland.

They even have a TSX (Accord) wagon over there.

JTS97Z28

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The Type S will still be faster but the regular TL will unfortunately lose.

ChocolatePuma

I was in Germany a few weeks ago and saw a "TSX" and thought to myself " I didnt know Acura was imported to Europe" until I walked around to the rear and saw the Accord Badge. Slick marketing by the Honda corp. I agree that the 08-09 accord could have been an acura model, maybe rebadge the coupe as the 08 "CL" and make the interior more inviting and put sound sound deadening material in it PLEASE

BEAR-AvHistory

I do not believe that will hold up across the board.

Would be interesting to see a Type-S 5AT vs an Accord 6MT.

esco786

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lol op how many threads like this are you going to start? check your threads started..maybe you should have made a decision by now?