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Old 05-07-2019, 01:07 PM
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Well here goes. Hopefully some of the parts information I post and insights into what I learn will help others learn and understand a bit about this model. I'm not a Acura or Honda technician but have worked at 2 Honda dealers over a decade ago as a parts department associate. Automobiles are an interest I have had as a child and Acuras/Hondas have been regularly a part of my life. I may post some questions as I am still dealing with numerous issues that occur with these 2007-2008 Type-S models as they age or have had incidents where damage has occurred.

After selling my modified 2004 Acura RSX Type-S in September 2018, and a 2005 Acura RSX Base model with the 5-speed automatic transmission, I found myself in Honda withdrawal without any form of VTEC in my life haha. I was driving a low mileage Ford Freestar SEL minivan that I was not enthusiastic to own and preparing to escape from the moment I had an opportunity. It happened on February 14th this year. Being single I claimed this 2007 Acura TL Type-S in Alabaster Silver as my Valentine's Day gift to myself ! This TL had a Rebuilt title. I looked her over and test drove her and she seemed worthy of being my next project. And she is as usual, an all-consuming attempt by me to right the past wrongs and neglect I identify she has been through.

The tires were mismatched, and worn, highly suspect. But there wasn't any lights on in the dash other than the air bag indicator which I assume has been on since a collision that occurred in New Mexico in 2014 which resulted in her being declared Salvage. Sometime within the next month or so she was purchased from Copart and transported to Florida where she has been since. I hauled ass to work on the Sawgrass Expressway in Broward County, Florida and realized this J35A8 engine had some VTEC balls. This is the first vehicle I have owned with paddle shifters and I was excited to use them, I noticed quickly the downshifts were entertaining but the upshifts left me surprised at their delayed reaction. I arrived to my job a bit late that day but satisfied I had rid myself of Ford's last failed attempt at creating a minivan. I felt a bit more like the man I wanted to be and the approval those at my work felt like a good beginning.

I have previously owned owned a 2000 Honda Accord EX-L V6 with the coil pack version of the J30A1, so this TL Type-S feels like a welcome evolution with a lot of familiarity of the underlying mechanics

Right away it was apparent that she could use new wiper blades. About a day after purchasing her I bought and installed some Michelin XT versions which do a decent job of wiping. these worked well and looked sharp on the RSX I had owned so I stayed with what I had experience using.

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Sounds like this is becoming a trend so before you continue.. any reason why you don't just put everything in one post ?
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The dreaded TIGHTEN FUEL CAP message

I don't recall when but noticed this message began to appear on the gauge cluster and navigation touchscreen EVERY TIME I started the TL. Wow this is annoying. I read online that the 2 likely causes are a faulty gas cap and the Purge Control Solenoid Valve which has been updated by Honda a few times and the production location can be Mexico or the current country Japan... I purchased a new Genuine Honda Fuel Cap part # 17670-SHJ-A31. This did not resolve the system fault. Next I purchased another used Mexico manufactured Purge Control Solenoid Valve. The issue persisted. I then traveled to my local LKQ Pick Your Part and pulled about 3 of them all identified as being made in Japan, PART # 36162-RDV-J01 to attempt to cover the likelihood that the odds all would be faulty. I installed what I noticed and believe to be a Honda revision identifying #4 Made in Japan P.C.S.V. Issue resolved ! Wooo! Progress felt good.
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Originally Posted by thoiboi View Post
Sounds like this is becoming a trend so before you continue.. any reason why you don't just put everything in one post ?
I would just stand by and watch. OP is posting and responding to his own thread and questions

It appears he is excited
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Well here goes. Hopefully some of the parts information I post and insights into what I learn will help others learn and understand a bit about this model. I'm not a Acura or Honda technician but have worked at 2 Honda dealers over a decade ago as a parts department associate. Automobiles are an interest I have had as a child and Acuras/Hondas have been regularly a part of my life. I may post some questions as I am still dealing with numerous issues that occur with these 2007-2008 Type-S models as they age or have had incidents where damage has occurred.

After selling my modified 2004 Acura RSX Type-S in September 2018, and a 2005 Acura RSX Base model with the 5-speed automatic transmission, I found myself in Honda withdrawal without any form of VTEC in my life haha. I was driving a low mileage Ford Freestar SEL minivan that I was not enthusiastic to own and preparing to escape from the moment I had an opportunity. It happened on February 14th this year. Being single I claimed this 2007 Acura TL Type-S in Alabaster Silver as my Valentine's Day gift to myself ! This TL had a Rebuilt title. I looked her over and test drove her and she seemed worthy of being my next project. And she is as usual, an all-consuming attempt by me to right the past wrongs and neglect I identify she has been through.

any pics of TL?
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Those are photos from the first few weeks of owning the Type-S in February. I couldn't post photos earlier as I'm considered a noob to Acurazine. I previously used AZHT and Hondatech since probably before 2005 so having posting restrictions is new and awkward for me.
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Yikes, 225/50 R17 tires; please, please, please, put some proper rubber on that car, 235/45 R17 is what came from the factory.
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What's up, man...welcome to the forums and to 3G ownership.
I've had a couple and I am local. I'm trying to place where those pics were taken.
I live in Pines and work in Sunrise so I'm sure will cross paths at some point.

You sound like you know what you're doing with your search for the purge solenoid.
Nice work!
And nice car!
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Those are reference photos from February...

I've already replaced a few of the worst curb rashed wheels and it's now rolling on directional Bridgestone Potenza RE970AS Pole Position 235/45R17 97W tires. These are the closest spec tires to what the summer tire option was from Bridgestone when these Type-S were sold new and they have recently been discontinued...

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Looks like a nice car, I have the same color. Did you say how many miles it had? Just keep up with the trans fluid changes and tb/wp 105k mile service and it should be good to go for a long time
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Originally Posted by Will4781 View Post
Those are photos from the first few weeks of owning the Type-S in February. I couldn't post photos earlier as I'm considered a noob to Acurazine. I previously used AZHT and Hondatech since probably before 2005 so having posting restrictions is new and awkward for me.

well you are still a noob... :P congrats on the purchase and yes every TL I bought the 1st thing get replace is LCA bushing.
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Well passenger side has a pinstripe but not the driver side, could indicate panel replacement. No matter, remove that pinstripe
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Pinstripes are anyways... Rip it off!
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Nice find, you anywhere close to west palm ?
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Well passenger side has a pinstripe but not the driver side, could indicate panel replacement. No matter, remove that pinstripe
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Oil pump is leaking oil from the double o-ring. Just did the whole reseal job on my AV6. Let me know if you have any questions.
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I've had a couple and I am local. I'm trying to place where those pics were taken.
I live in Pines and work in Sunrise so I'm sure will cross paths at some point.
Nice car OP!

You can see it on the Advert Sign in the background:

Windward Isle Plaza
West Oakland Park Blvd., Sunrise, FL,


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Hey everyone it's been a few days. Yes most of those photos were taken in Sunrise which is to the west of Fort Lauderdale, Florida for anyone who isn't familiar. I bought the Type-S with a little more than 91,000 miles so I thought it was a fair project to take on. It's almost at 96,000 miles, which will likely happen before the end of today. I've managed to destroy all of the mounts that were in it when I bought it. The passenger's side mount seems to have been replaced before. It didn't look to be o.e.m. I bought a new one with my former Honda parts sales associate rate at Phil Smith Acura. OMG the difference was worth it for $78.97 😜
Part # 50820-SEP-A03

My advice after the drama I have been through repairing and restoring the front end issues with this TL Type-S is that if you find yourself in a similar situation, REPLACE EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME. It's my observation and opinion that the whole front end is reactionary and on edge due to the amount of 286+ horsepower and torque transmitted thru Honda's choice of front wheel drive 😳

The list I would do next time is:
front lower control arm compliance bushings. I would even consider aftermarket spherical units instead of the o.e.m. bushings as they look suspect even after being replaced.
Probably Skunk2 Pro upper control arms
THREE 555 FIVE ball joints (Made in Japan)
The passenger's side o.e.m. engine mount (as this one seems to deal with most of the vibrations from the engine)
For the other mounts, an Innovative mount kit with 75A for daily driver usage.

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I would get rid of that hot air intake and replace with a cold air intake or go back to OEM.
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I would get rid of that hot air intake and replace with a cold air intake or go back to OEM.
Agree, ain't nuthin' good can come of that nasty intake.
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I would get rid of that hot air intake and replace with a cold air intake or go back to OEM.
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Agree, ain't nuthin' good can come of that nasty intake.
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Yeah yeah

I haven't noticed any issues with it. It runs fine and has more power. I'll change the set up eventually with a heat shield if I keep this TL Type-S long enough.
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I haven't noticed any issues with it. It runs fine and has more power. I'll change the set up eventually with a heat shield if I keep this TL Type-S long enough.
It is HIGHLY unlikely the engine puts out more power (except maybe a few ponies up at redline at wide open throttle), in fact, in the mid RPM range, it is almost guaranteed to have less power. Long story short, that hot air intake is the worst possible intake you can put on your car both from a performance (hot air and screwing up the intake resonance) and filtration perspective.
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Filtration perspective ?

It's a new K&N. I don't believe theres an issue with the filtration quality.
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It's always hot in Florida.

I'll keep my "hot air intake"
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I haven't noticed any issues with it. It runs fine and has more power.

Your butt dyno tell you that?
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It's a new K&N. I don't believe theres an issue with the filtration quality.
Except K&Ns have been long since scientifically proven to have the absolute worst filtration of pretty much any filter.
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I have no scientific testing to back it up, but on a prior car using a K&N my oil was absolutely filthy within 500 miles. Switching back to my OE intake and filter, my oil was usually several thousand miles before it got stupidly black again. I blame my increase in oil consumption on that car on my use of the K&N filter. I had a major increase of oil consumption within a year of putting that intake on the car. Always possible it was something else.....but that is what I feel like blaming.
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I have no scientific testing to back it up, but on a prior car using a K&N my oil was absolutely filthy within 500 miles. Switching back to my OE intake and filter, my oil was usually several thousand miles before it got stupidly black again. I blame my increase in oil consumption on that car on my use of the K&N filter. I had a major increase of oil consumption within a year of putting that intake on the car. Always possible it was something else.....but that is what I feel like blaming.
There was a study done about ten years ago which showed a huge delta between K&N filters (and other filters of that ilk) and even the cheapest of OEM style replacement filters; the graphic produced from that study was posted here sometime within the last year, I just don't remember when.
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