nist7

So more airbags may be recalled:

Air bag recall expected to be largest in U.S. history

Since we know that the 3G TL share many parts as that gen of the Accord they noted (04-07 Accord), do we have any worry about airbag recall?

As far as I know, Acuras were not affected by this?

musty hustla

https://vinrcl.safercar.gov/vin/

polobunny

You'll receive a letter if you're included in the airbag recall.

Additionally: Recall Information for Safety & Defects | Acura Owners Site

AlanW

I never received any notice on my 02 TL-S, which was included in the recall. I had to call the dealer & tell them that I wanted it changed.

michaelap95

i saw a preliminary list that included 2001-2003 TL, but not the 3rd gen. Checked Acura's website as well, nothing yet. I'd give it a few more weeks to fully iron out

jimmyfu

How do they get your address for the recall? I'm asking, because I'm the 3rd owner of a TL, so unless they check with the DMV who owns what...

tristann616

Same, I'm the second owner, however, there was this card in the owner's manual that said to fill it out and send it to Acura so they can change the info. So that's what I did. Not sure if it worked...but..yea

nfnsquared

3G TLs aren't in the latest recall. In fact, no Acuras are in the latest recall.

But there may be more to come, who knows...

Edit: From the previous recall:

AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO., INC. (HONDA) IS CONDUCTING A RECALL FOR CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2003-2006 ACURA MDX, AND 2002-2003 TL/CL VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH TAKATA-BRAND AIR BAG INFLATORS. UPON DEPLOYMENT OF THE DRIVER SIDE FRONTAL AIR BAG, EXCESSIVE INTERNAL PRESSURE MAY CAUSE THE INFLATOR TO RUPTURE.

Steven Bell

iTrader: (2)

Good to know the 3G TL's aren't on the list.

nfnsquared

For now. I get the feeling that this is so huge that no one knows for sure what is yet to come...

Steven Bell

iTrader: (2)

Yea, I'd agree with that.34 million recalled cars and counting.

FamilyGuy

The NHTSA just mentioned in the news today that they don't have the VINs of the latest expansion yet, and don't expect to have it until sometime next week. They are still waiting for manufacturers to send them the data, which they then have to post on their own website.

06TLMatt

I'm almost certain ours will be a part of the recall, we share so many parts with the model of Accord that is, I don't see why the airbag would be different. I'm really hoping that if it is recalled/replaced, they'll change the whole cover so my peeling Acura emblem will be fixed.

nfnsquared

While that's true, Acura is not mentioned as a make that is involved in the latest recall based on all the sources that I've read.

Here's the note on the safercar.gov website:

"If you are checking to see if your vehicle is affected by the Takata air bag recalls, it generally takes anywhere from a few days to several weeks for automakers to gather individual VINs associated with a recall. It is important that you check back periodically as a recall on your vehicle may not show up immediately."

But I still have yet to see Acura mentioned as being involved in this latest round of recalls. Acura is not listed in the consent order.

From the consent order, the makes involved in the latest recall are:

American Honda, BMW, Chrysler, Daimler Trucks, Ford, General Motors, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Subaru, Toyota.

http://www.safercar.gov/staticfiles/...a-05182015.pdf

MarcDavidoff

This article seems to give a good list of (current) affected vehicles per manufacturer and model. Just hit the arrow key for the additional pages. Funny they show a 3rd gen TL on the Acura page even though it's the 2G on the list
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/models-a...066659182.html

FamilyGuy

Well that's good news for us

michaelap95

Just take it in for an oil change and they will update the owner if you ask. When I went in for my oil change when I first purchased the car, they took all my info and removed the previous owner from the contact information

06TLMatt

Do you think it's just naming parent companies? Lexus, Infiniti, Lincoln, GMC, and Caddilac aren't on there either

DuoDSG

Definitely subscribing to this thread, if only just so I can remember to check back in a little bit to see if the airbag recall covers my 2004 TL.

I am honestly half-surprised that Acura isn't on the official list- I know that Acura is its "own" manufacturer, but being that they are the luxury division of Honda--and that they use HONDA parts--makes it extremely fishy that our 3G TLs wouldn't be using the same component that was found in the Accord during this time period. It makes fiscal sense for the company to have used as many common parts as possible, especially for something that doesn't have to be radically different in looks or functionality like an airbag.

Part of my suspicion also comes from the fact that Lexus and Infiniti are not found on this list, even though their parent companies--Toyota and Nissan, respectively--are. I find it strange that their entire luxury lines are not affected by this recall for the same reason I stated above.

TacoBello

True. I wonder if they'll end up doing a blanket recall for any and all cars just to be safe. Would be expensive as hell. I wonder if a company can insure itself for something like this happening, or if they take this recall right on the chin.

nfnsquared

Not sure, but in the consent order only Honda models are listed.

However, I guess the real question is whether or not any Takata PSDI, PSDI-4, or PSDI-4K inflators were installed in any 3G TLs (driver's side) (see exhibit A in the consent order). The PSDI inflators average age is 11 years and the PSDI-4/PSDI-4K average 8 years, so they both are in the range of the production years for the 3G. However, the consent order only lists Honda models as being affected.

nfnsquared

Also, easy for me to say, but the rupture rate is extremely low and appears to be related to high humidity climates...

FamilyGuy

Good point. Acura is a division of Honda.

I think the reality is we wont know anything concrete until next week.

nist7

Good point.

It's not impossible to say that Honda sourced same parts supplier for their airbags in the 3G TL as that gen of Accord...after all airbag is airbag....no special luxury airbag needed...unless they have diff supplier with Acura cars. Time will tell.

Will definitely try to keep this thread updated with new info as they come in.

Interesting. One thing that is surprising to me is that since Takata is such a HUGE supplier of airbags..why would Honda go out of their way to contract buy diff airbag in their TLs than their Accords? While TL is a luxury division, I doubt they will go to get "luxury airbags" for the TL?

Seems to me just put in the standard airbags in the TL and the Accord...I guess we will see as more info comes out.

AlanW

The Acura airbags release a pleasing & calming fragrance upon inflation.

3gstealth

iTrader: (2)

If the 3G ends up on the list, wouldn't they have to replace the driver and passenger airbags? Imagine them having to tear out the dashboard on all the TLs to get to that passenger side airbag!

FamilyGuy

Manufacturers this big (Honda) cannot rely on a single supplier, and I'm sure Takata isn't the only game in town.

It's also possible for different parts from different suppliers to be used between driver's side and passenger side, or that one of the sides simply doesn't use one of the defective part numbers.


Lmao

Type s models shoot plastic at your face at 80mph vs 50mph on base models.

polobunny

With red accents and fake carbon fiber?


I think people are always blowing recalls out of proportion. I just wait until the dust settles then get the recall done instead of calling the dealership right away and them being unable to give me answers or parts. I like to live on the edge...

06TLMatt

I'm just hoping to get my steering wheel emblem fixed out of this .

FamilyGuy

And GPS guided shrapnel. I hear it even comes with a cassette


Many yes, but this one is serious and can take out an eye dude...I don't want to lose an eye.

DuoDSG

This got me thinking...it's a long shot that they'll have to replace both, but if they do, then that means I might get a free, non-crashed dashboard out of it

Granted, my dash crack is tiny (it just appeared a month or two ago), but I would laugh if they're taking my dash apart and they break it further. I bet they'd have to "make it right" somehow

polobunny

I agree. Don't crash, my man.


I'm not saying recalls are issued for no reason, but the probability of you getting seriously more injured because of the defect is slim to none. It's a voluntary recall to boot. You've lived with your TL and haven't lost an eye until now, 1-2 more month of waiting hopefully won't change a thing.

nist7

lol

that would be optimal outcome but I thought they would just take off the cover, replace airbag and put it back on. Or is the emblem/cover part of the airbag part as well?

Okay so doing a news search came up with latest article that listed these as the currently affected Acura models:
source: http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/...how_to_se.html

So so far we are safe. But since this appears to be an ongoing thing we will all have to keep close eye on this development.

WDPanda

Yes, emblem is apart of the whole airbag.

sopmodm14

i went to the official Acura website to do my weekly VIN check on recall at :

Recall Information for Safety & Defects | Acura Owners Site

Atlas_Gen

I sure could use a new dash because there are cracks all over mine from the previous owners living in Arizona with all the heat so I actually wouldn't mind if my TL was on the recall list.

Rip Flair

Takata Air Bag Recall Update 2015: Is Your Car Affected? How To Check VIN, Model, Year For BMW, Dodge, Ford, Honda, Toyota, Nissan And More

According to IBT (international business times) the 02-03 TL's are being recalled. Doesn't say anything on the 3G being affected or needing to be recalled.

Dunnik

A bump for Canadian TL owners, Transport Canada has released their list of recalled vehicles - it seems to be exactly the same as the American list, as if they just copy and pasted it (which they probably did).

https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/motorvehicl...ions-1433.html

Thankfully for 3G owners, only the 2G seems affected - 2002 and 2003 models.

If you are still concerned, you can, of course, just call up your local Acura dealership, give them the VIN, and ask for any outstanding recall work. Worth a call anyway, since it's possible a PO didn't have recall work done, you never know.

tristann616

I just got my compliance bushings replaced at my Acura dealer, and they ran the VIN for recalls and as of now, no recalls for my 2008. So 3G looks clear for now. Which is weird, since the 07 Accord got recalled. I'm assuming they probably used a different part then?

MANDO28

was wondering on this too I read up on that