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Old 04-22-2009, 03:45 PM
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My car has 130k miles bought it last year at 60k and still owe freaking 16k for it. and yes im pissed off seeing the market for a TL is somewhere near 14 or 15k with decent low miles. and mine is 130k and still owe near 17k lol but anways how long do you think The TL motor would last. I dont dog out my car everyday change oil every 4k miles and had my waterpump and timing belt change already
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How in the hell have you driven 70k miles in a year?
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My previous car was a 1998 3.2TL and when I sold it to buy my wife's '09 Pilot Touring, i had well over 180K miles on it. The engine was running like a champ and all i did was the regular maintenance. I only use Mobil 1 0W-30 and changed it every 4500 miles. If you take care of it, it should last to 200K no problem.

I currently drive a 2005 TL with 51K miles and it still runs like it was brand new. I hoping to get another 150K miles out of it!
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70K? Damn. that's 3 times around earth.

The car will easily run to 200K and more.. just continue to take care of it! And geez.. get a Smart car or something. I can only imagine your gas bills.
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Originally Posted by bukjoe15
My car has 130k miles bought it last year at 60k and still owe freaking 16k for it. and yes im pissed off seeing the market for a TL is somewhere near 14 or 15k with decent low miles. and mine is 130k and still owe near 17k lol but anways how long do you think The TL motor would last. I dont dog out my car everyday change oil every 4k miles and had my waterpump and timing belt change already
With proper maintenance, and it sounds as though you are on the right track there, your engine should last far longer than 130,000 miles. I've seen small block Chevies go well over half a million miles without a tear down and/or rebuild. And I have to believe the engine in our TL's should have no problem replicating that kind of life. I know of a driver of an early '90's Integra who, at the time of his article, has 315,000 miles on his car with the original clutch assembly and I would bet without a tear down of his engine.
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why would u owe so much on your car if you drive so much??
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Originally Posted by CocheseUGA
How in the hell have you driven 70k miles in a year?
Well long story short i drive a total of 100 miles everyday give or take to go school and work. 50 miles there and 50 miles home plus i drive 200 miles to atlanta georgia every other weekend. but my car is running great. motor just seem a little bit louder since i first got it prob. normal wear and tear.i know it is good to invest in gas saver or a cheap car but why buy the TL if im not going to drive it!!!!

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My previous car was a 1998 3.2TL and when I sold it to buy my wife's '09 Pilot Touring, i had well over 180K miles on it. The engine was running like a champ and all i did was the regular maintenance. I only use Mobil 1 0W-30 and changed it every 4500 miles. If you take care of it, it should last to 200K no problem.

wow i hope mine don't break down before the pay off is complete
I currently drive a 2005 TL with 51K miles and it still runs like it was brand new. I hoping to get another 150K miles out of it!
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70K? Damn. that's 3 times around earth.

The car will easily run to 200K and more.. just continue to take care of it! And geez.. get a Smart car or something. I can only imagine your gas bills.
Its high man sometime i fill up twice a week when gas was sky high like 4 months back it was close to 100 a week!!! if i can afford a smart car i would get that, and i hate the smart car!! rather get a civic anyday.... but a 93 94 95 civic now days is close to 4 grand because its a gas saver.

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With proper maintenance, and it sounds as though you are on the right track there, your engine should last far longer than 130,000 miles. I've seen small block Chevies go well over half a million miles without a tear down and/or rebuild. And I have to believe the engine in our TL's should have no problem replicating that kind of life. I know of a driver of an early '90's Integra who, at the time of his article, has 315,000 miles on his car with the original clutch assembly and I would bet without a tear down of his engine.
haha man I praying to god that my car last that long. i seen a Dodge desil turbo the ones with 8 wheels for sale with 300k miles.
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why would u owe so much on your car if you drive so much??
I bought it last year at 60k miles for $24k. i put down 5k cash and been paying it for a year now do the math sounds about right
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That is pretty impressive. 70K miles in one year? You should look into a VW diesel or a hybrid. You must spend all your waking moments in the car, and probably sleep in it too! More power to you man. I'd love to read your post next year when you hit 200K!
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Take care of it and it will last for many, many miles, but maybe some other items will go south, but not the motor. In your case the resale value with certainly plummet as the miles increase, but it will keep running. My daughter has a '00 Maxima she purchased in 2002 with 23K, and now with 180K it runs like new and we have only replaced the alternator, passenger side window switch, a heated seat switch, and other normal maintenance items, but it now needs CV boots and a rear cat as it's due for inspection in a couple of months.
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Originally Posted by BASISON
That is pretty impressive. 70K miles in one year? You should look into a VW diesel or a hybrid. You must spend all your waking moments in the car, and probably sleep in it too! More power to you man. I'd love to read your post next year when you hit 200K!
No i love my Hondas/Acuras never a diffrent type of automobile but these.
Oh yea I have slept in this car front and rear seats its really comfortable. i have over slept in this car on my break and was late going back to work!!!! almost got fired
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Take care of it and it will last for many, many miles, but maybe some other items will go south, but not the motor. In your case the resale value with certainly plummet as the miles increase, but it will keep running. My daughter has a '00 Maxima she purchased in 2002 with 23K, and now with 180K it runs like new and we have only replaced the alternator, passenger side window switch, a heated seat switch, and other normal maintenance items, but it now needs CV boots and a rear cat as it's due for inspection in a couple of months.
Year normal wear and tears im going to under stand that. I think the motor will last. before this car i had a 96 honda civic the original motor went out at 260k miles, i Abuse the hell out of it i never changed the oil and sometimes there wasnt oil in there lol but it last until then. it would have probilly last longer if i didnt abuse the hell out of that tiny motor.
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You should drive less. Move closer to work/school.
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You should drive less. Move closer to work/school.
easy said then done but naw thats ok save more money living with the parents while in school.

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Honda's and Acura's are well built cars that are above average
in reliability. My old 1990 and 1994 Accords are still on the
road when I ran a VIN check a couple months ago !
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300,000 miles easily by using synthetic oil.
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I had a jeep with a v8 and 230k on it. I had it for 10 years it was running well when i sold it. The tl should go past 300 imho.
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I think you are doing pretty good. I'm thinking these are highway miles? If so, don't trip cuz I used to drive that many miles on my '97Corolla and its still going at 220,000 miles. All I did was change oil and timing belt, starter and all the other stuff. Anyways, you know Toyota's and Honda's go a looong waaay. Also my newphew's '92 Integra is at about 260,000 plus miles now? That car is running like a champ too, and that had a lot of city miles. So I'm thinking with our TL's, miles should be a cake walk if you take care of your car, for most of them. Hope this helps.

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Originally Posted by ChucksCL-S
300,000 miles easily by using synthetic oil.
Yea im going to start using synthetic oil i have been using high millage for the pass 3 oil change and my pass oil changed i used synthetic oil

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I had a jeep with a v8 and 230k on it. I had it for 10 years it was running well when i sold it. The tl should go past 300 imho.
I just hate the fact that my is an 05 but thats my fault that i put that many miles on it

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I think you are doing pretty good. I'm thinking these are highway miles? If so, don't trip cuz I used to drive that many miles on my '97Corolla and its still going at 220,000 miles. All I did was change oil and timing belt, starter and all the other stuff. Anyways, you know Toyota's and Honda's go a looong waaay. Also my newphew's '92 Integra is at about 260,000 plus miles now? That car is running like a champ too, and that had a lot of city miles. So I'm thinking with our TL's, miles should be a cake walk if you take care of your car, for most of them. Hope this helps.

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Yup all highway miles 60 -70 mph on the highway. I think i should be ok to! we would just have to wait maybe next year i will have 200k miles do yall remeber that comercail with that guy that hit 100K miles in reverse ? haha i should try that
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Your fine....I will pass you in about two-three weeks. Just hit 128,000 miles today. I do 1000-1500 miles a week (5 days) and have to change the oil once a month (5000 miles) so no worries.

Your math of 100 miles a day every day is 700 miles a week and with the trip to Atlanta, you would hit 1000 miles a week. At that amount, you should have about 48-50k a year not the 70k. I guess you have had it about a year and a half? I am a 55-65k a year guy and I gotta say, the TL is the ultimate highway daily driver. I just got back from Augusta, GA today. The car is ment for this.

Try to get ahead on the car payments if possible. It would suck if you had 200k and you still owe 8-10k.
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Maintenance will take you a long way..

Why compromise and drive a small uncomfortable car to save gas.. I'd rather spend more on gas and drive a nice comfortable good looking car..

I've seen so many Hondas pushing 250-300k miles on them it's ridiculous.. when I had my del Sol and Accord I always thought what the hell if the motor blows I'll just throw a JDM single cam in it and keep running or an H22 as I did in he Accord when the H23 blew..

Anyone knows what we could expect to cashout for a full motor refresh?

Talking about freshening up piston rings, all the gaskets etc etc

Maybe the guys running turbo/supercharged setups could have a rough idea of the cost to refresh a TL motor..
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My 2G TL has 130k+ miles with its orig. tranny .... so I'm hoping to get as many miles on my type-s ...
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Originally Posted by mmade22
Your fine....I will pass you in about two-three weeks. Just hit 128,000 miles today. I do 1000-1500 miles a week (5 days) and have to change the oil once a month (5000 miles) so no worries.

Your math of 100 miles a day every day is 700 miles a week and with the trip to Atlanta, you would hit 1000 miles a week. At that amount, you should have about 48-50k a year not the 70k. I guess you have had it about a year and a half? I am a 55-65k a year guy and I gotta say, the TL is the ultimate highway daily driver. I just got back from Augusta, GA today. The car is ment for this.

Try to get ahead on the car payments if possible. It would suck if you had 200k and you still owe 8-10k.
Yea man a little bit over a year, but i did take the car to the myrtle beach 4 times last year!! i have friends in columbia that i go and visit. but the math was right maybe a little off and i you are right the TL is going to hold up big time. It would really really suck if my motor blew and i am still making payments thanks man i hope to see you at the next meet
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Maintenance will take you a long way..

Why compromise and drive a small uncomfortable car to save gas.. I'd rather spend more on gas and drive a nice comfortable good looking car..

I've seen so many Hondas pushing 250-300k miles on them it's ridiculous.. when I had my del Sol and Accord I always thought what the hell if the motor blows I'll just throw a JDM single cam in it and keep running or an H22 as I did in he Accord when the H23 blew..

Anyone knows what we could expect to cashout for a full motor refresh?

Talking about freshening up piston rings, all the gaskets etc etc

Maybe the guys running turbo/supercharged setups could have a rough idea of the cost to refresh a TL motor..
YEA i did that to my civic that had 260 k miles it had no oil in it and it probilly had 1 quart of oil for a month, and in that month i was driving to work i reved it to 7k rpms for 1 min and it didnt do nothing i contine to do that for 2 months and finally i gave out. and yes i did buy a JDM B16
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if i have 100k miles...the car better b paid off for
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Think you tranny would go before the motor lol; I bought my car last july with 48K, now it has 67k. The transmission is starting to act up on mine; i get rough shifts, kicks and whine from time to time. I change my oil every 2.5k and tranny fluid every 6k w/ the lucus ATF stablizer.

Engine is very sound, but not the tranny...
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if i have 100k miles...the car better b paid off for
you gotta sick RL...Thinking about trading in mine for one...lol
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Originally Posted by Blazing GT
if i have 100k miles...the car better b paid off for
easy said then done man
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Think you tranny would go before the motor lol; I bought my car last july with 48K, now it has 67k. The transmission is starting to act up on mine; i get rough shifts, kicks and whine from time to time. I change my oil every 2.5k and tranny fluid every 6k w/ the lucus ATF stablizer.

Engine is very sound, but not the tranny...
i have and auto/t
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i too have 130,000 miles on my 04 TL and yes i noticed it drives a bit louder but for the most part..shes still sexxy lol
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i too have 130,000 miles on my 04 TL and yes i noticed it drives a bit louder but for the most part..shes still sexxy lol
ohhhh yea
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Deductive reasoning says...Clemson?
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bukjoe.. I know you still owe money on the car but if I were you I'd either buy a beater for commuting or start investing in spare parts if you have room. New heads.. trans.. just parts you see along the way at cheap prices. Make sure you're very conservative on fluid changes and maintenance. There's no reason why a quality car can't go 300K+ miles.. with routine maintenance.
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Originally Posted by mmade22
.. I am a 55-65k a year guy and I gotta say, the TL is the ultimate highway daily driver..
I must agree.. the TL is a definite HWY cruiser..
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Originally Posted by BASISON
My previous car was a 1998 3.2TL and when I sold it to buy my wife's '09 Pilot Touring, i had well over 180K miles on it. The engine was running like a champ and all i did was the regular maintenance. I only use Mobil 1 0W-30 and changed it every 4500 miles. If you take care of it, it should last to 200K no problem.

I currently drive a 2005 TL with 51K miles and it still runs like it was brand new. I hoping to get another 150K miles out of it!


Ditto, I had a 98 3.2TL with 182,000 miles on it that I traded out and bought myself an 04 TL with 50K Miles (but I bought my wife a Lexus RX350)

I did change the oil regularly and with similar maintenance on this one, I do expect to keep it past 200K miles.
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Originally Posted by CocheseUGA
Deductive reasoning says...Clemson?
???????????
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bukjoe.. I know you still owe money on the car but if I were you I'd either buy a beater for commuting or start investing in spare parts if you have room. New heads.. trans.. just parts you see along the way at cheap prices. Make sure you're very conservative on fluid changes and maintenance. There's no reason why a quality car can't go 300K+ miles.. with routine maintenance.
Yea good thinking. I will be sure to do this
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Ditto, I had a 98 3.2TL with 182,000 miles on it that I traded out and bought myself an 04 TL with 50K Miles (but I bought my wife a Lexus RX350)

I did change the oil regularly and with similar maintenance on this one, I do expect to keep it past 200K miles.
I hope i get that far
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I am picturing the future, When this car is out of order. i will turn it into my lil race car and mybe get a Truck one day. I need one to haul my boat and haul trash
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damn. that means your car will only last around 2-3 more years tops at this rate.

70k a year X 3 =210k + 130K = 340k ??? if you maintain your car properly.
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damn. that means your car will only last around 2-3 more years tops at this rate.

70k a year X 3 =210k + 130K = 340k ??? if you maintain your car properly.
.. awe he'll be fine.. but that's certainly a lot of miles in a year. I love cruising in the TL but damn..
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It is debatable whether you need synthetic oil. Dino oil has come a long way.

Also, starting to use synethetic on a high mileage vehicle which has not used synthetic before can cause problems because it can loosen engine deposits which can clog things.

Also if you do mostly highway driving, changing the oil every 5000 miles is not necessary and unlikely to prolong engine life. Just go by the MID.
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Originally Posted by bukjoe15
easy said then done but naw thats ok save more money living with the parents while in school.
If you spend $100 a week on gas, I am pretty sure you would not spend that much renting a room closer to school. Also you wouldn't have the high risk of accident, the more you drive the more likely you are to be involved in one. I personally would never be willing to commute that much but that's just me.
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Originally Posted by Babnik
It is debatable whether you need synthetic oil. Dino oil has come a long way.

Also, starting to use synethetic on a high mileage vehicle which has not used synthetic before can cause problems because it can loosen engine deposits which can clog things.

Also if you do mostly highway driving, changing the oil every 5000 miles is not necessary and unlikely to prolong engine life. Just go by the MID.
^^^^ No and no. Change the oil exactly as you have been. Driving more has it's risks of accidents but driving all highway in the south is a cake walk. This isn't NY/NJ city driving we are dealing with.
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after reading this thread I dont feel bad for having almost 46,000 on my 06. I was actually just thinking about how i have way too many miles on it on my way to school earlier!

This car is great for long drives.

And bukjoe and mmade22 have you guys seafoamed your cars yet?


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