sauceja

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Got my leds in today. Put the license plate lights in and nothing. Thought that was weird.

Had to switch both bulbs and they fired right up. So maybe 1 of the lights you guys have installed is backwards and thats causing the hyperflash thinking there is actually no light installed???

New to leds so not sure of polarity issues or what exactly is going on.

tlmailman

pm sent to you and stavebomb. looking to try to attempt this in the next 2 weeks while I am on vacation. thanks

sauceja

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Yeah I sent out a pm. I need a couple of these. But need to check local radio shack.

stavebomb

Just wanted to report that this install is easy and nobody should be afraid to try it. The hardest part is getting the module out from under the dash. I just took vice grips to it to get it out.

JTS97Z28

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I have a questions regarding the front LED's. Some of you may remember my VLED's front amber lights would not turn on with the parking lights. Did anyone else have this problem or is this just a VELD's bulb issue? Some people have purchased much cheaper ebay bulbs and not reported this problem. So in all your TL's do the front LED's bulbs go on normally when you turn on the parking lights or are modifications required for this as well? Its weird because the LED bulb bench tested perfectly, but when you install it in the car it does not turn on with parking lights...did this in both my TL-S and my wifes 04 accord.

sauceja

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Just a ? did you try flipping the bulb and plugging it in with the wires on other side? hope that makes sense. Because my interior bulbs would only work plugged in one way and not the other. Like they had 1 side + and 1 side - and it mattered which side was which.

Just my 0.02 because this is all new to me.

JTS97Z28

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Yes LED bulbs must be installed correctly as polarity needs to be right for them to work. However, the front LED's I'm talking about can only be installed one way so it's not possible to turn them around. So this is not the issue.

stavebomb

Thats actually not true. I had that issue with mine and I just popped the one out that wasnt working and turned it around and it worked fine. You can also try switching the side you plug your respective bulbs into--take out the drivers side and plug it into the passenger side, and visa versa. Hope that helps.

Mafyoso

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Mines only went it one way... So IDK Maybe it Different on the TL and TL-s Cause they do have different Bulbs

TranceAddict

I had to get mine replaced twice to get a working bulb . Both were defective . But they do have great customer service . Just contact them and resend them back to vled's . It was a hassle but got a working one the third time round

^ the answer is yes . they should turn on when you flip the parking lights on . Also try flipping them around sometimes its the other way around .

sauceja

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Or maybe a bad batch of polarity point bulbs for our cars. Meaning maybe they work but since you couldn't flip them around then you would never know???

This is interesting and I am in this thread for personal knowledge. And Rockyfeller, got your pm.

Side note, got my RV6 Trudual at the house but worked 150 hours the last 6 days so I am curious if I remember where I live lol.

JTS97Z28

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Ok see the confusion here is that supposedly for whatever reason the TL uses different front park/turn bulbs between the base TL and Type S. So a couple guys are telling me to turn the bulb around. With the Type S 7443 park/turn bulb it cannot be rotated. It can only be installed one way as the notches simply wont fit if you try and rotate it.

As far as TransAddict and sauceja's comments that could be correct. I called VLED's and he told me to simply test the bulb and it did infact work perfectly for both contacts. It lit when I gave 12v to both of them. Its interesting though about the bulb might have been assembled wrong I dont know. Either way all I know is that neither of them light up when I put the turn signals on. I gave up and sold the bulbs.

I still would love to get front and rear LED's so hopefully someday someone figures out a 100% effective way to get these to work without having hot load resistors all over the place. The resistor method is great but it was making my Type S do some weird electrical things and im not willing to risk that.

JTS97Z28

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One last questions, since I dont want to do the resistor method, and im not a fan of having to use 4 load equalizers for the front and rear. Is there a certain type of load equalizer that would allow me to only use two of them instead of one at each corner? I do want LED's in the fronts and rears, but wondering if they make a certain type that will allow me to only have to use two total. I would prefer to install just two up front because I dont want something that gets really hot sitting in my trunk. The front end has much better places to install something thats going to get hot. If there is please let me know which rating equalizer I will need that will give the system enough load for LED's in the front and rear.

Thanks,
James

JTS97Z28

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Sorry for all the questions. One last thing...so I see vled's sells 3ohm load equalizers which says simulates the load of 4 regular bulbs. So I assume that would give the system enough load so that you only need to use 2 load equalizers instead of 4 (one at each corner). This would be nice but would it be safe? I want to make sure this would not put too much load on the two circuits that I guess would then be giving the load of 4 regular bulbs. Here is the link to vled's page with the equalizers. It says the 3ohm equalizers simulates 4 bulbs.
http://www.v-leds.com/BlinkerWarning...orLanding/true

Any input is appreciated because I am ready to try the LED thing again this time using cheaper ones from ebay...wjhich from what people are saying are actually decent quality and will light up when I turn my park lights on.

Thanks

sauceja

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I have been checking this thread and I really wish I could help you. But I am in for knowledge.

Roger555

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I wish I could help too, maybe in the next month or so though cause I'll be making some of my LED signals so I'll probably need more resistance.

BSpecialist

I'll be soldering my .12ohm resistors in series soon (maybe tomorrow) to try and get that .24ohms and we will see if that works. I got some bright ass rear signal bulbs that I really want working.

JTS97Z28

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Speaking of bright, does anyone know who makes the absolute brightest LED's for the front and rears? I originally bought VLED's and brightness wise they were good but the front bulbs didn't go on with the parking lights. So I bought a cheap pair of 68 led 1157's for the front and they work but are ridiculously dim. So I pulled those right out.
Just looking for people's recommendations for the brightest ones. Something that's atleast kind of close to the brightness of the oem bulbs.

BSpecialist

My rears consist of '27' 5050smds They are just as bright as the halogens from what i can tell. Before I had '42' 3528smds and they just didn't cut it.

I was doing some research and most of the smaller 3528smds put out 6 lumens per individual LED, while the 5050smds put out 18lumens per individual LED. I did some math (who knows if it was correct) but it appeared the '27' 5050smds were just about 480 lumens. I found the stock bulb for our cars and the specs said it put out about 450 lumens or so. Again, i wasn't sure if I could add the lumens of each LED together to equal the total lumens, but seeing both bulbs next to each other, they're pretty damn close.

Mafyoso

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Where DID u purchase yours?? I need Brighter Rears at least. I dont mind having my Switchbacks not as bright but my Rears to me are more important to having brighter.

BSpecialist

Ha sorry, didn't realize he asked "who makes the brightest." I bought mine from eBay seller "cn.store" I was able to grind them down to $21 shipped (was 22.58) so you can try to do the same.

One thing I test with these, was hooking them up straight to the battery (each set of pins on the same side controls whether its in dim or full brightness modes. I wanted to make sure when I plugged it in I was getting full brightness. So you may want to check to make sure yours are lighting up fully.

Link to 27 5050SMD Bulbs

JTS97Z28

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Alright thanks for the link. I too have bench tested the front amber 1157 LED's and I can clearly see that the turn signal flash side produces much brighter light than the steady burning parking lamp side. Its just too weak for me out in the sunlight you literally can barely see them on compared to the regular bulb side which is almost blindingly bright head on.

So you say these 5050 LED's are pretty damn bright in our TL housings? Any chance you can take some high quality pics and email them to me so I can get some sort of idea prior to buying my THIRD set of LED's lol. jamespowles@yahoo.com

BSpecialist

Yeah no problem. Its raining here now, so I will probably end up waiting until tomorrow before I change up my relay resistors and take pictures/videos.

BSpecialist

GREAT SUCCESS!!! [/borat] I dug into the relay again and switched my 2 0.12ohm resistors from a parallel circuit setup, to a series. That is, solder them end to end and then solder them into the board (mine created a triangle). NO MORE HYPERFLASHING! I have LED switchbacks up front, and red LED signals in the rear and they are working 100%. So for those of you who want LEDs at all 4 corners, this seems like a very viable option. You can even just spring for 1 0.24ohm resistor and you should be good to go.

Video comparing my rear LED signals to the stock will be up shortly...

Roger555

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Hurray!!! Good work

JTS97Z28

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Nice job!! I just ended up going the other route as I still wasnt convinced we were doing the 100% right thing as I personally had issues with the resistor method in my Type S. So now im kind of hesitant to do that. I just bought 2 load equalizers that simulate 4 bulbs. Works great and was simple to install. The ones I bought from vled.com even have a nice mounting plate attached. I put in my rear LED's which light up very nicely however im still searching for the best front LED's that put out the most light. So far the 68smd towers I bought are horrible they put out very little light through the reflector. Any other suggestions for a front amber LED that puts out atleast something close to stock?

Thanks

BSpecialist

Here's the video comparing them: http://youtu.be/mMqDFvsFbAU
and here's a video with both LEDs in: http://youtu.be/VYTRdGvMagY

JTS97Z28, I would definitely consider the 27 5050smd LED Bulbs from ebay seller "cn.store" If I ever get crap from cops about my switchbacks, I will most likely go that route.

Link for Amber 7443s or Link for Amber 1157s depending on whether or not you have a Type-S or not. Hope this helps.

JTS97Z28

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Alright I might give them a shot. Only thing is I see they would be coming from hong king and says it can be weeks for delivery. Is this true how long did it take for yours to arrive?
My rears are done as the LED bulbs I have in there now look amazing, it's just the fronts that didn't cut it as there is much less reflector for the bulb to reflect on in the front. So I need to compensate with a brighter bulb.
Thanks

BSpecialist

Yeah shipping was maybe 10-14 total days. I've ordered most of my LEDs from HongKong with no problems so its really just up to whether or not you want to wait a little longer for a cheaper price lol

aIRpeACE

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complicated physic

tehloxely

This is good news!

BSpecialist, would you mind taking a picture of your unit so we can get an idea of how it should be?

BSpecialist

I really don't feel like pulling the module out again unless I really have to (although I've gotten pretty good at getting it out lol). Just imagine it looking like this /\ with the bottom points soldered into the board. Solder them both pretty close to the actual resistor because you will need to watch out for clearance. If you still need something more visual, I will take a picture for you. Good luck!

Mafyoso

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I Might do this to see if it stops my Hyperflashing every so often

lights

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please do.

tehloxely

Yes, if it isn't too much trouble BSpecialist.

tlmailman

does the cover come off first, then we pull the card out. Or does it come out as one whole piece. I understand there are clips and a flathead screwdriver helps. Just trying to do this without destroying the plastic cover.

BSpecialist

The gray and black piece comes out all together as one piece. I found that pulling down on the very top edge helps a little, once it comes out once, it's pretty easy to get out again. I was putting screwdrivers all over each side trying to loosen clips but I wasn't really sure what was helping what, it eventually just needed brute force pulling it out lol, just don't squeeze too hard.

Pictures coming soon of the new resistor setup. For those who haven't bought resistors yet, I recommend just buying one .24ohm resistor and solder it just like in the pictures in the beginning of the thread.

Killabee44

Guys,

Anyone using the 27 5050SMD Bulbs, are they just plug and play? Any issues? Thanks.

sauceja

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I used 1 .12 ohm resistor for just switchbacks and my hyperflash is gone. However at night when I blink orange, inbetween blinks after bulbs are warmed up they blink the 6k color and it is really disappointing.
Day time is fine but night sucks.

Otherwise the 6k looks good at night but doesn't clash well with 8k hids.

Time for 6k hids and 2.5k fogs as I do like that.

Any idea on what would cause the bulbs to blink both times (always orange or white) bad bulbs maybe? I have to look to see what I got but they were quite spendy on vleds.com and the brightness is actually quite nice.

cfujikawa

mine do that as well. it depends on what type of bulb you got, and from what manufacturer. i don't think it's a bad bulb. it's wired so that when you don't have your corner lights on (ie. during the day, and your lights are off), they will just blink amber (since the default bulb status is off). when you do have the corner lights on (ie. at night with the headlights), they will blink amber-white (because the default bulb status is on).

when i bought my bulbs from autolumination, they had a choice between the two types (amber blink only vs. amber-white blink). i thought i ordered the amber only bulbs, but i think they sent me the amber-white ones. doesn't really bother me, so i never exchanged them.