G-031: [DIY] Accord Fogs with Type-S Grills on '04-'06 TL
02-29-2012, 10:55 PM
#242
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Sweet...
If you figure it out please show me how you wired your whole switch harness and I'll post it up in the DIY, with credit to you of course.
If you figure it out please show me how you wired your whole switch harness and I'll post it up in the DIY, with credit to you of course.
03-01-2012, 01:01 PM
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Good luck to the both of ya!
03-01-2012, 05:32 PM
#247
Success! Got everything working and cleaned up all of the extra wiring under the hood. I found a few slots in the fuse box that are open and have power with ignition on but dont know why on some slots the power comes from the top pin and others the bottom pin? Anyone? Anyways I think Im just going to use an add a fuse and use the spot for the front 12v outlet as a trigger when I get the hid's... heres the pics!
red plug on the harness which needs to be grounded to illuminate. I was going to cut off the plug and extend the wire to ground but I cut it near the switch and grounded it to the same point as the other ground.
fog switch final wiring
Here are the pics from the wire cleanup...basically all you are doing is getting rid of the plug that goes to the extra relay that we dont use along with the other unused brown plug. The only thing I had to connect to make it work was the two black ground wires coming from the foglights that went to the extra plug (the blue one).
original wiring before cleanup
ground from fog lights connected
blue plug removed (i didnt get a pic of the brown plug but its the one that has two wires going to it.
Final wiring after cleanup
red plug on the harness which needs to be grounded to illuminate. I was going to cut off the plug and extend the wire to ground but I cut it near the switch and grounded it to the same point as the other ground.
fog switch final wiring
Here are the pics from the wire cleanup...basically all you are doing is getting rid of the plug that goes to the extra relay that we dont use along with the other unused brown plug. The only thing I had to connect to make it work was the two black ground wires coming from the foglights that went to the extra plug (the blue one).
original wiring before cleanup
ground from fog lights connected
blue plug removed (i didnt get a pic of the brown plug but its the one that has two wires going to it.
Final wiring after cleanup
03-01-2012, 06:09 PM
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Looks good buddy!
So what did you end up doing in the cabin?
Just plugging in the blue connector into the empty slot on the fuse box?
And you tapped into the parking lights right?
So what did you end up doing in the cabin?
Just plugging in the blue connector into the empty slot on the fuse box?
And you tapped into the parking lights right?
03-01-2012, 08:07 PM
#249
from plug that plugs into the fog switch:
1. Green wire extended to engine bay relay
2. Blue wire tapped into parking light wire
3. Solid red wire grounded for illumination
4. Black wire grounded (already has a terminal on the end)
Plug in the blue connector into the accessory slot above the fuse panel and ur done!
*just a note, the red/black wire gets the illumination power when you plug in the blue plug*
Last edited by 04TL4P3; 03-01-2012 at 08:14 PM.
03-01-2012, 08:16 PM
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WOW super easy.
Thanks a million dude!
So basically it's the same setup as mine except:
1. You just plug in the blue connector into the fuse box.
2. Instead of tapping the positive and negative wire for the switch illumination, you just ground the solid red wire to a nearby grounding point.
Am I correct?
Everything else would be the same; blue wire to parking light for trigger, green wire to engine bay, black wire to ground point.
So all it does is saves you from tapping wires to the VSA for switch illumination. Genius!
I'll update the DIY when I can! =)
I'm wondering if the switch illumination works if you tap into say the wiper motor wire (independant; constant ON if the key is in).
Would that mean the switch would illuminate if the key was in the ignition?
Thanks a million dude!
So basically it's the same setup as mine except:
1. You just plug in the blue connector into the fuse box.
2. Instead of tapping the positive and negative wire for the switch illumination, you just ground the solid red wire to a nearby grounding point.
Am I correct?
Everything else would be the same; blue wire to parking light for trigger, green wire to engine bay, black wire to ground point.
So all it does is saves you from tapping wires to the VSA for switch illumination. Genius!
I'll update the DIY when I can! =)
I'm wondering if the switch illumination works if you tap into say the wiper motor wire (independant; constant ON if the key is in).
Would that mean the switch would illuminate if the key was in the ignition?
Last edited by guitarplayer16; 03-01-2012 at 08:19 PM.
03-01-2012, 08:49 PM
#251
WOW super easy.
Thanks a million dude!
So basically it's the same setup as mine except:
1. You just plug in the blue connector into the fuse box.
2. Instead of tapping the positive and negative wire for the switch illumination, you just ground the solid red wire to a nearby grounding point.
Am I correct? Yes Sir!
Everything else would be the same; blue wire to parking light for trigger, green wire to engine bay, black wire to ground point.
So all it does is saves you from tapping wires to the VSA for switch illumination. Genius!
I'll update the DIY when I can! =)
I'm wondering if the switch illumination works if you tap into say the wiper motor wire (independant; constant ON if the key is in).
Would that mean the switch would illuminate if the key was in the ignition? Yep in theory, but I havent tried it. The red/black wire only has power when the parking lights or headlights are on.
Thanks a million dude!
So basically it's the same setup as mine except:
1. You just plug in the blue connector into the fuse box.
2. Instead of tapping the positive and negative wire for the switch illumination, you just ground the solid red wire to a nearby grounding point.
Am I correct? Yes Sir!
Everything else would be the same; blue wire to parking light for trigger, green wire to engine bay, black wire to ground point.
So all it does is saves you from tapping wires to the VSA for switch illumination. Genius!
I'll update the DIY when I can! =)
I'm wondering if the switch illumination works if you tap into say the wiper motor wire (independant; constant ON if the key is in).
Would that mean the switch would illuminate if the key was in the ignition? Yep in theory, but I havent tried it. The red/black wire only has power when the parking lights or headlights are on.
03-01-2012, 09:01 PM
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Thanks dude!
So I guess this method is only good if you're using the parking lights as the trigger.
Otherwise, for people with independant fog lights, their button will be lit ALL THE TIME when the key is in the ignition, which would look a little funny lol
I'll be sure to mention it!
I guess people who wired their fogs to be independant will still have to tap into the VSA as a trigger for the switch illumination heheh
So I guess this method is only good if you're using the parking lights as the trigger.
Otherwise, for people with independant fog lights, their button will be lit ALL THE TIME when the key is in the ignition, which would look a little funny lol
I'll be sure to mention it!
I guess people who wired their fogs to be independant will still have to tap into the VSA as a trigger for the switch illumination heheh
03-01-2012, 09:06 PM
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03-01-2012, 09:22 PM
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You're installing HIDs right?
I would AVOID using the parking lights as a trigger.
Use the low beam fuse or make your fogs independant and use the wiper motor wire.
Everything else is correct!
EDIT: Just read your last sentence about using the blue wire that's beside the green wire and YES that's correct!
So 100% you were correct and know what you're doing!
My bad.
Cut that damn connector off the green and blue wire (the connector at the top of the pic), and connect them to new white wires (or whatever colour of wires you bought) and run them through the engine bay.
I would AVOID using the parking lights as a trigger.
Use the low beam fuse or make your fogs independant and use the wiper motor wire.
Everything else is correct!
EDIT: Just read your last sentence about using the blue wire that's beside the green wire and YES that's correct!
So 100% you were correct and know what you're doing!
My bad.
Cut that damn connector off the green and blue wire (the connector at the top of the pic), and connect them to new white wires (or whatever colour of wires you bought) and run them through the engine bay.
Last edited by guitarplayer16; 03-01-2012 at 09:27 PM.
03-01-2012, 09:31 PM
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You're installing HIDs right?
I would AVOID using the parking lights as a trigger.
Use the low beam fuse or make your fogs independant and use the wiper motor wire.
Everything else is correct!
EDIT: Just read your last sentence about using the blue wire that's beside the green wire and YES that's correct!
So 100% you were correct and know what you're doing!
My bad.
Cut that damn connector off the green and blue wire (the connector at the top of the pic), and connect them to new white wires (or whatever colour of wires you bought) and run them through the engine bay.
I would AVOID using the parking lights as a trigger.
Use the low beam fuse or make your fogs independant and use the wiper motor wire.
Everything else is correct!
EDIT: Just read your last sentence about using the blue wire that's beside the green wire and YES that's correct!
So 100% you were correct and know what you're doing!
My bad.
Cut that damn connector off the green and blue wire (the connector at the top of the pic), and connect them to new white wires (or whatever colour of wires you bought) and run them through the engine bay.
03-01-2012, 09:39 PM
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You gonna try to install it tonight?
Remember I have my non oem fogs installed so all I have to do is the wiring. For the ground for fog connectors where you extended the wires, is that necessary? Cant I just find a near ground point?
03-01-2012, 10:04 PM
#258
Thanks dude!
So I guess this method is only good if you're using the parking lights as the trigger.
Otherwise, for people with independant fog lights, their button will be lit ALL THE TIME when the key is in the ignition, which would look a little funny lol
I'll be sure to mention it!
I guess people who wired their fogs to be independant will still have to tap into the VSA as a trigger for the switch illumination heheh
So I guess this method is only good if you're using the parking lights as the trigger.
Otherwise, for people with independant fog lights, their button will be lit ALL THE TIME when the key is in the ignition, which would look a little funny lol
I'll be sure to mention it!
I guess people who wired their fogs to be independant will still have to tap into the VSA as a trigger for the switch illumination heheh
03-01-2012, 10:07 PM
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I didn't know where to ground it and was like screw it I'm just gonna ground it where the battery gets grounded LOL
I'm positive you can just ground it to a good point on the body.
I think you can knock the wiring off in an hour or two.
The hardest part is fishing the wire(s) through the firewall LOL
03-01-2012, 10:10 PM
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no I misunderstood when you said that about tapping into the wiper motor wire i thought u meant for the illumination. Tapping into the wiper motor or any other ignition power source as a trigger will not have any effect on the illumination of the switch so u can tap whatever you want for the relay trigger.
How would that work, though?
Unless that accessory fuse is somehow wired to the parking lights, I don't get how it would tell the switch to turn on the switch illumination when the fogs are triggered to the wiper motor wire
03-01-2012, 10:13 PM
#261
#1 is the illumination power that you plug in the port in the fuse panel and #6 is the solid red wire from the switch plug that you ground for illumination.
03-01-2012, 10:18 PM
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We'll find out how the switch illumination works out for people with independant fogs soon heheh
03-01-2012, 10:19 PM
#263
Wait so what you're saying is that accessory fuse will turn on the switch illumination, even though you tap into the wiper motor wire for a trigger?
How would that work, though?
Unless that accessory fuse is somehow wired to the parking lights, I don't get how it would tell the switch to turn on the switch illumination when the fogs are triggered to the wiper motor wire
How would that work, though?
Unless that accessory fuse is somehow wired to the parking lights, I don't get how it would tell the switch to turn on the switch illumination when the fogs are triggered to the wiper motor wire
03-01-2012, 10:27 PM
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So that means that the switch illumination will come on even in the daylight LOL
03-01-2012, 10:42 PM
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I can imagine most people turning on their fogs at night anywho, though lol
Great DIY none-the-less, but tapping into the VSA wires for switch illumination is the most OEM method if you have independant fogs lol
03-01-2012, 10:52 PM
#267
Independant = no lights have to be on for your fogs to be on therefore the only thing lit up in your car is the fog switch LOL (assuming parking lights and low beam are set to off, but fogs turned on)
I can imagine most people turning on their fogs at night anywho, though lol
Great DIY none-the-less, but tapping into the VSA wires for switch illumination is the most OEM method if you have independant fogs lol
I can imagine most people turning on their fogs at night anywho, though lol
Great DIY none-the-less, but tapping into the VSA wires for switch illumination is the most OEM method if you have independant fogs lol
ok we are getting our terms mixed up lol
when i say illumination i mean the white light that lights up the little fog light emblem jut like the vsa button has the white vsa letters that light up. if you have wired like i did then your fog switch will illuminate exactly as the oem things in the car do when your parking lights or headlights are on. Its independent from the foglight power whether they are triggered to the parking light, wiper motor, or any other trigger source.
03-01-2012, 10:58 PM
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ok we are getting our terms mixed up lol
when i say illumination i mean the white light that lights up the little fog light emblem jut like the vsa button has the white vsa letters that light up. if you have wired like i did then your fog switch will illuminate exactly as the oem things in the car do when your parking lights or headlights are on. Its independent from the foglight power whether they are triggered to the parking light, wiper motor, or any other trigger source.
when i say illumination i mean the white light that lights up the little fog light emblem jut like the vsa button has the white vsa letters that light up. if you have wired like i did then your fog switch will illuminate exactly as the oem things in the car do when your parking lights or headlights are on. Its independent from the foglight power whether they are triggered to the parking light, wiper motor, or any other trigger source.
So many confusing terms LOL
So say you cut your blue wire. It's not connected to anything. No trigger. It's not connected to your parking lights anymore.
You flick on your parking lights or low beams, and all the buttons in your car light up. Your fog switch emblem illumination is supposed to light up too?
That's what I don't get unless there's something inside the accessory fuse slot that is hooked up to the parking lights itself
03-01-2012, 11:17 PM
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Ugh my eyes are failing me.
Face palm to self.
Cheers for the DIY!
Face palm to self.
Cheers for the DIY!
03-02-2012, 12:19 PM
#271
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Weird.
If you wired your switch harness as explained through my DIY, all you need to do to illuminate the switch is to tap some wires to the VSA switch.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=80
OR follow NSXCessive's switch harness wiring guide.
Read over it carefully, as I have not tried wiring mine this way LOL
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=123
If you wired your switch harness as explained through my DIY, all you need to do to illuminate the switch is to tap some wires to the VSA switch.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=80
OR follow NSXCessive's switch harness wiring guide.
Read over it carefully, as I have not tried wiring mine this way LOL
https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=123
Hi, sorry I do not visit Zine that often... Do you mean you have no illumination, or no green light indicating switch is in on position?
For illumination you have to ground 2 wires in the accord switch. Some have tapped the VSA wires, honestly I would no tap and wires with those crappy 3m temporary tap connectors unless you plan on having problems down the road with bad connections etc.
Post#118 I explained the connections to made with out interfering with VSA or any other 'hacking' of OEM wiring.
"....Interior hooked up to switch is: RED/BLK (Parking light trigger used for aftermarket alarms etc) goes to 6-Pin accessory harness which I mentioned above to illuminate it. BLU on trigger I connected to the BLK/YELLOW. Since my car has a Viper autostart /alarm so we grabbed ignition trigger from there you can grab wherever you want. Some people grabbed power from the wipers or other accessories. It’s a small turn on current anyway so should have any problems using that to trigger the supplied Black relay from the Accord kit. RED + BLK were taken to ground, and green is the trigger going out to the accord relay in the engine bay. I ran a new wire into the engine bay thru the rubber grommet near the brake reservoir that connects to the GRN at the relay...."
Done! lol
Last edited by NSXCessive; 03-02-2012 at 12:25 PM.
03-02-2012, 12:41 PM
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03-08-2012, 07:30 PM
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Keep us updated!
03-15-2012, 09:33 PM
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03-15-2012, 09:52 PM
#279
2004 Acura TL
yes the fuse are properly working, I changed them out with the new ones to be sure. It might be the ground wire but I will work on the car again tomorrow.
The only reason I believe its the relay because it makes a weird clicking noise when holding the ground wire to any piece of metal. And I was having the same problems before and I just unplugged the relay and plugged it back it and the fogs worked. I am really stumped.
The only reason I believe its the relay because it makes a weird clicking noise when holding the ground wire to any piece of metal. And I was having the same problems before and I just unplugged the relay and plugged it back it and the fogs worked. I am really stumped.
