G-029: DIY Independent Fog Lights WITH Stock Switch
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Hope you didn't wire it to the VSA or Airbag cable like I did hehe
Rest is just like posted here and clear... I don't know how to help
Rest is just like posted here and clear... I don't know how to help
#283
I got the right harness, only thing I could think of is, the wire behind the steering wheel. There were 2 blue/white one. One was a light blue/white and the other one was like a legit blue blue/white wire. I hooked up the light blue/white with the fog light relay. Possibly wrong wire?
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Sorry just saw the post
Yup
Yup
#288
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Wait a minute, that makes no sense you shouldn't need one for 07-08 the car came with DRLs from the factory.
Now if you wanted to convert it to LED DRLs there is a harness on VLEDs that allows you to do so.
From the factory your DRLs are wired in series, in order for the LED DRLs to work you need to wire them in parallel. It also uses 2 different resistors in different locations to trick the B-CAN into operating off the more efficient and lower power LEDs. They still put out about the same, if not more, lumens (light) and the color can be selected a lot easier with LEDs.
Now if you wanted to convert it to LED DRLs there is a harness on VLEDs that allows you to do so.
From the factory your DRLs are wired in series, in order for the LED DRLs to work you need to wire them in parallel. It also uses 2 different resistors in different locations to trick the B-CAN into operating off the more efficient and lower power LEDs. They still put out about the same, if not more, lumens (light) and the color can be selected a lot easier with LEDs.
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I see, in that case it's here:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/g-029-07-08-acura-tl-diy-fog-light-mod-845798/
I don't think anyone ever completed it though, cutting that wire isn't as straightforward since your relay is mounted in the interior fuse box the way they have the schematic there.
A better way to do it without that problem would be to use another relay and mount it in the engine bay to the under hood fuse box. Instead of trying to cut the BLU/RED wire that goes to the fuse box route the wire off the fog switch into the engine bay.
Then tap into the wire for the OEM wiper motors. Now wire your new relay in this way:
Wire off the fog switch to pin 30 & 85
Wiper motor power wire to pin 86
Blu/blk wire off the under hood fuse box (end that goes to the relay, not the fuse box) to pin 87
That would do the same thing as Roger555's setup and may actually be do-able.
Just be sure to get the right blu/blk wire on the under hood fuse box there may be a few of them.
A standard automotive 4 pin relay will have all of those pins and they should be numbered on the relay as well.
Essentially what this would do is use the ground that is switched from the fog light switch to both activate the OEM fog relay when you switch it on and it would activate the relay that was added to prevent the fogs from being on while the car is off (that safety function would still work, since the wiper motor power is switched off when the key is removed that relay will de-energize once the key is out).
I'm working on trying to get control of that LED in the cluster on a harness I'm working on for 04-06, I think if I manage it it'll work on the 07-08 as well since it's wired in a similar manner.
I've already found that the indicator comes on even if the fog relay is removed, which means that the indicator comes on either as a result of the combo light switch being in the headlight ON and fog ON position or as a result of a ground being present in the control block on the BLU/BLK wire.
My next test, when I install the harness I'm working on, is to put a ground on the control block end of the BLU/BLK wire to see if I can take control of it, if that works then I can wire it in to my harness (on the switched fog light ground from the combo light switch).
If that doesn't work I'm outta luck on the indicator, I also wouldn't advise trying to solder to the cluster itself. The cluster has an internal driving circuit attached to each LED in it.
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/g-029-07-08-acura-tl-diy-fog-light-mod-845798/
I don't think anyone ever completed it though, cutting that wire isn't as straightforward since your relay is mounted in the interior fuse box the way they have the schematic there.
A better way to do it without that problem would be to use another relay and mount it in the engine bay to the under hood fuse box. Instead of trying to cut the BLU/RED wire that goes to the fuse box route the wire off the fog switch into the engine bay.
Then tap into the wire for the OEM wiper motors. Now wire your new relay in this way:
Wire off the fog switch to pin 30 & 85
Wiper motor power wire to pin 86
Blu/blk wire off the under hood fuse box (end that goes to the relay, not the fuse box) to pin 87
That would do the same thing as Roger555's setup and may actually be do-able.
Just be sure to get the right blu/blk wire on the under hood fuse box there may be a few of them.
A standard automotive 4 pin relay will have all of those pins and they should be numbered on the relay as well.
Essentially what this would do is use the ground that is switched from the fog light switch to both activate the OEM fog relay when you switch it on and it would activate the relay that was added to prevent the fogs from being on while the car is off (that safety function would still work, since the wiper motor power is switched off when the key is removed that relay will de-energize once the key is out).
I'm working on trying to get control of that LED in the cluster on a harness I'm working on for 04-06, I think if I manage it it'll work on the 07-08 as well since it's wired in a similar manner.
I've already found that the indicator comes on even if the fog relay is removed, which means that the indicator comes on either as a result of the combo light switch being in the headlight ON and fog ON position or as a result of a ground being present in the control block on the BLU/BLK wire.
My next test, when I install the harness I'm working on, is to put a ground on the control block end of the BLU/BLK wire to see if I can take control of it, if that works then I can wire it in to my harness (on the switched fog light ground from the combo light switch).
If that doesn't work I'm outta luck on the indicator, I also wouldn't advise trying to solder to the cluster itself. The cluster has an internal driving circuit attached to each LED in it.
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#292
Im trying to find out if its possible to connect the inspire fog lights using the stock on/off power for the 04-06 instead of installing the switch the provide?...
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I'm assuming here that the inspire fogs are an add-on, as in they were not there previously so you had to wire power to them when you installed them.
If that's the case then activating them using the stock ground switch is going to be dependent upon the way that the inspire fogs are switched on.
In other words, if the switch they provide is used to switch the +12VDC end then you would have to alter the harness so you can switch the positive power to the fogs using the ground that the stock switch provides as a control.
That would probably involve creating a circuit similar to the OEM fog circuit, with a relay and all so that way you can switch the +12V with the relay by using the ground that the stock switch provides to activate the relay and having a ground always present on one side of your fog lights.
If the switch is used to switch a ground, then you're in luck and it should work, but that ground that the stock switch changes is quite a ways away from your fog lights. Current would have to travel from a ground inside of the cabin, through the stock switch, into the engine bay, through your fog light and to the positive source. That could add quite a bit of resistance to your circuit, essentially since those fogs are probably like 40W or so.
My guess is that one end of the fog light is tied directly to a ground near the fog lamp and the positive wire is being switched the way they come.
You could always come up with something to make it work, I wouldn't want the fogs to run off of the ground that the stock switch changes though. It should be part of a control circuit and not the circuit that is driving your fogs.
#295
Hi Everyone,
I bought my car from the states and had it brought up into Canada, in Canada we must have DRL on our cars. The Mechanics that connected the DRL kit connected to my HID instead of the Fog lights, maybe because they don't know how or they just followed the instructions provided in the kit. I have 3gen acura TL. the DRL kit that was installed is exactly like the Grote 44040 DRL Module. Basic Daytime Running Light installed as per instructions. My problem was I didn't want my HID running all day, shortening the life span of my HIDs. If you see my pics you will see the original setup and what I did to make my Fog into DRL. It works great I start my car the DRL comes on, when I turn on the parking lights or HID the FOG lights turn off. But I can still use fog lights when my HIDs are on
I bought my car from the states and had it brought up into Canada, in Canada we must have DRL on our cars. The Mechanics that connected the DRL kit connected to my HID instead of the Fog lights, maybe because they don't know how or they just followed the instructions provided in the kit. I have 3gen acura TL. the DRL kit that was installed is exactly like the Grote 44040 DRL Module. Basic Daytime Running Light installed as per instructions. My problem was I didn't want my HID running all day, shortening the life span of my HIDs. If you see my pics you will see the original setup and what I did to make my Fog into DRL. It works great I start my car the DRL comes on, when I turn on the parking lights or HID the FOG lights turn off. But I can still use fog lights when my HIDs are on
#296
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I have an 05 Acura tl and I tapped the into the blue/white wire on the left side behind the steering wheel if your sitting in the driver seat facing it. Then I wired my wire into the engine bay and tapped the blue/blk wire in the small fuse box like the instructions said now my fogs won't come on at all.
#297
I fixed my mistake and works perfect. Thank you Roger555. May want to add it's the dark blue/white wire. I must be a little color blind cause the pictures to me look like it may be the light blue/white.
I did some thing a little different others may want to do. Instead of hacking in to the wire harness in step six for the accessory power green wire that powers the windshield wipers, instead I ran the blue/red wire in step five that I attached the thicker gauge wire to the relay wire threw the fire wall and used this in line fuse holder that has a nice LED to show if the fuse is blown (that I have a 7.5 amp fuse in and works)
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=3150583
and soldered a fuse tap to it like this one
Ring Terminal 12-10 Gauge 1 4 Stud Non Insulated Seamless - Rtu-4014-bz - Brazed Seam Rings - Ring
then plugged the tap in to the inside/under dash fuse box at location #22 that is open/not used and get power only when car is running.
I did some thing a little different others may want to do. Instead of hacking in to the wire harness in step six for the accessory power green wire that powers the windshield wipers, instead I ran the blue/red wire in step five that I attached the thicker gauge wire to the relay wire threw the fire wall and used this in line fuse holder that has a nice LED to show if the fuse is blown (that I have a 7.5 amp fuse in and works)
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=3150583
and soldered a fuse tap to it like this one
Ring Terminal 12-10 Gauge 1 4 Stud Non Insulated Seamless - Rtu-4014-bz - Brazed Seam Rings - Ring
then plugged the tap in to the inside/under dash fuse box at location #22 that is open/not used and get power only when car is running.
#298
2005 Acura TL
I fixed my mistake and works perfect. Thank you Roger555. May want to add it's the dark blue/white wire. I must be a little color blind cause the pictures to me look like it may be the light blue/white.
I did some thing a little different others may want to do. Instead of hacking in to the wire harness in step six for the accessory power green wire that powers the windshield wipers, instead I ran the blue/red wire in step five that I attached the thicker gauge wire to the relay wire threw the fire wall and used this in line fuse holder that has a nice LED to show if the fuse is blown (that I have a 7.5 amp fuse in and works)
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=3150583
and soldered a fuse tap to it like this one
Ring Terminal 12-10 Gauge 1 4 Stud Non Insulated Seamless - Rtu-4014-bz - Brazed Seam Rings - Ring
then plugged the tap in to the inside/under dash fuse box at location #22 that is open/not used and get power only when car is running.
I did some thing a little different others may want to do. Instead of hacking in to the wire harness in step six for the accessory power green wire that powers the windshield wipers, instead I ran the blue/red wire in step five that I attached the thicker gauge wire to the relay wire threw the fire wall and used this in line fuse holder that has a nice LED to show if the fuse is blown (that I have a 7.5 amp fuse in and works)
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=3150583
and soldered a fuse tap to it like this one
Ring Terminal 12-10 Gauge 1 4 Stud Non Insulated Seamless - Rtu-4014-bz - Brazed Seam Rings - Ring
then plugged the tap in to the inside/under dash fuse box at location #22 that is open/not used and get power only when car is running.
#302
if there is anyone still having a hard time or they just want to make sure they do this correct . Here is a very detailed video on youtube i found. i followed his directions and they worked.
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Great video!
I noticed your intake hose was torn (you can see it @5:29), get that replaced because it is pulling unfiltered air though, might mess something up
I noticed your intake hose was torn (you can see it @5:29), get that replaced because it is pulling unfiltered air though, might mess something up
#306
Just have one question so I connect the 10 a fuse to the positive side of the battery is that ok? And also after eveythig is done my fog won't turn off after I shut off the car. The rest of the lights do but with the fog I gotta use the switch. Is that on or I did something wrong? Cause with the green wire I had vsa on . Took it off and plug it with the battery and it went away.
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G-029: DIY Independent Fog Lights WITH Stock Switch
Originally Posted by Hectorjr
Just have one question so I connect the 10 a fuse to the positive side of the battery is that ok? And also after eveythig is done my fog won't turn off after I shut off the car. The rest of the lights do but with the fog I gotta use the switch. Is that on or I did something wrong? Cause with the green wire I had vsa on . Took it off and plug it with the battery and it went away.
#308
These are not fog lights, they are Daytime Running Lights. Fog lights are under the grill on each side of the bumper, hogging the ground. I believe DRL are not required in the USA, they are in Canada.
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04-06 had fogs and not DRLs...our lower grill is empty
DRL's became mandatory on all cars in 2006 (if memory serves me right), hence ALL cars produced post 2007 have DRL's
#310
Just tried this mod and I heard a pop. Now no lights at all and the green light on the cluster is on 24/7 regardless of position of the light switch. I checked fuses and they're good. Please help!!! Park lights come once key is in acc position and I have no blinkers
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#312
Found a temporary fix I'm using a residential light switch to get my lights and turn signals to work. I ran a wire from the under hood fog relay spliced with the dark blue/white wire coming from light switch stalk to one side of switch. Then the other side of this residential switch is connected to ground.
For whatever reasreason I'm not getting a ground from light switch stalk. Think I burned out the switch when I sent 12v to dark blue/white wire....it's obvious to me I need a new switch. Do I get a light switch stalk or that pice the stalk plugs into behind the wiper stalk???
For whatever reasreason I'm not getting a ground from light switch stalk. Think I burned out the switch when I sent 12v to dark blue/white wire....it's obvious to me I need a new switch. Do I get a light switch stalk or that pice the stalk plugs into behind the wiper stalk???
#316
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Quick question guys, I did this mod a few days back and bought some new LED's to go in. My LED's are 80w cool white.. There's no problem as far as the wattage since they are LED's?? Correct me if I'm wrong.. These are plug and play..
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So how can I get Hid to work I have everything hooked up but from what I heard if you have hids it will not work... do any body have a DIY for this I want HIDs not the regular bulbs. ..
#318
Anyone with a CLs figure out if the same wire colors are used as in the TL
Sorry TL'ers, didnt mean to high jack ur thunder, but cant search out any CL posts
I did this mod in my old obd0 obd1 cars back in the day. Stumbled on it searchin and bam, brought back memeories. Im just jammin with OT have no time to really investigate
Sorry TL'ers, didnt mean to high jack ur thunder, but cant search out any CL posts
I did this mod in my old obd0 obd1 cars back in the day. Stumbled on it searchin and bam, brought back memeories. Im just jammin with OT have no time to really investigate
#319
Did you guys ever figure out how to make the fog light dash indicator work in the cluster?
#320
I see, in that case it's here:
G-029: '07-'08 Acura TL DIY Fog light Mod - AcuraZine Community
I don't think anyone ever completed it though, cutting that wire isn't as straightforward since your relay is mounted in the interior fuse box the way they have the schematic there.
A better way to do it without that problem would be to use another relay and mount it in the engine bay to the under hood fuse box. Instead of trying to cut the BLU/RED wire that goes to the fuse box route the wire off the fog switch into the engine bay.
Then tap into the wire for the OEM wiper motors. Now wire your new relay in this way:
Wire off the fog switch to pin 30 & 85
Wiper motor power wire to pin 86
Blu/blk wire off the under hood fuse box (end that goes to the relay, not the fuse box) to pin 87
That would do the same thing as Roger555's setup and may actually be do-able.
Just be sure to get the right blu/blk wire on the under hood fuse box there may be a few of them.
A standard automotive 4 pin relay will have all of those pins and they should be numbered on the relay as well.
Essentially what this would do is use the ground that is switched from the fog light switch to both activate the OEM fog relay when you switch it on and it would activate the relay that was added to prevent the fogs from being on while the car is off (that safety function would still work, since the wiper motor power is switched off when the key is removed that relay will de-energize once the key is out).
I'm working on trying to get control of that LED in the cluster on a harness I'm working on for 04-06, I think if I manage it it'll work on the 07-08 as well since it's wired in a similar manner.
I've already found that the indicator comes on even if the fog relay is removed, which means that the indicator comes on either as a result of the combo light switch being in the headlight ON and fog ON position or as a result of a ground being present in the control block on the BLU/BLK wire.
My next test, when I install the harness I'm working on, is to put a ground on the control block end of the BLU/BLK wire to see if I can take control of it, if that works then I can wire it in to my harness (on the switched fog light ground from the combo light switch).
If that doesn't work I'm outta luck on the indicator, I also wouldn't advise trying to solder to the cluster itself. The cluster has an internal driving circuit attached to each LED in it.
G-029: '07-'08 Acura TL DIY Fog light Mod - AcuraZine Community
I don't think anyone ever completed it though, cutting that wire isn't as straightforward since your relay is mounted in the interior fuse box the way they have the schematic there.
A better way to do it without that problem would be to use another relay and mount it in the engine bay to the under hood fuse box. Instead of trying to cut the BLU/RED wire that goes to the fuse box route the wire off the fog switch into the engine bay.
Then tap into the wire for the OEM wiper motors. Now wire your new relay in this way:
Wire off the fog switch to pin 30 & 85
Wiper motor power wire to pin 86
Blu/blk wire off the under hood fuse box (end that goes to the relay, not the fuse box) to pin 87
That would do the same thing as Roger555's setup and may actually be do-able.
Just be sure to get the right blu/blk wire on the under hood fuse box there may be a few of them.
A standard automotive 4 pin relay will have all of those pins and they should be numbered on the relay as well.
Essentially what this would do is use the ground that is switched from the fog light switch to both activate the OEM fog relay when you switch it on and it would activate the relay that was added to prevent the fogs from being on while the car is off (that safety function would still work, since the wiper motor power is switched off when the key is removed that relay will de-energize once the key is out).
I'm working on trying to get control of that LED in the cluster on a harness I'm working on for 04-06, I think if I manage it it'll work on the 07-08 as well since it's wired in a similar manner.
I've already found that the indicator comes on even if the fog relay is removed, which means that the indicator comes on either as a result of the combo light switch being in the headlight ON and fog ON position or as a result of a ground being present in the control block on the BLU/BLK wire.
My next test, when I install the harness I'm working on, is to put a ground on the control block end of the BLU/BLK wire to see if I can take control of it, if that works then I can wire it in to my harness (on the switched fog light ground from the combo light switch).
If that doesn't work I'm outta luck on the indicator, I also wouldn't advise trying to solder to the cluster itself. The cluster has an internal driving circuit attached to each LED in it.
Did you ever get the LED in the cluster of an 05 to work?