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Old 11-24-2014, 06:13 PM
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It's almost time to replace my factory pads on my 08 Type S. Any suggestions for pads that offer more bite and less brake dust? TIA
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I use Akebono ProAct pads I love them! Low dust and very good grip.. Ive put them to the test several times here with all the Los Angeles traffic.
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CENTRIC Part # 30910010, aka StopTech Street Performance Brake Pads. They're $56.79 at Rockauto.
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Originally Posted by soon2b954
It's almost time to replace my factory pads on my 08 Type S. Any suggestions for pads that offer more bite and less brake dust? TIA
cant have your cake and eat it too.

There will always be a compromise.
you just need to figure out what is more important to you.

better initial bite?

or low dust and noise.


a pad that will have great bite will produce dust and noise.

a pad that is designed to have less dust and noise will compromise the initial bite.

Most of us opt for a ceramic pad that doesnt produce MAJOR dust while still maintaining a decent bite.

but again, if you want a pad that has a different compound other than ceramic, YOU're ASKING for dust.

a freshly washed car with brake dust on the wheels LOOK HORRIBLE.
like, the first 10 mins your wheels will be covered in dust.
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Originally Posted by GOOSEej
I use Akebono ProAct pads I love them!
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The ProActs are great on my 5AT TL-- they leave less dust than stock, are quiet and have never come close to fading.

However, OP has a Type-S which has Brembo calipers.
Akebono has Performance Pads (also ceramic) for the TL Brembos, but not ProActs.

I assume OP wants to try something other than the stock Brembo pads, which do leave more dust.
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Autozone Duralast C-MAX.
I put these on my brembo's when I needed pads, and am actually quite disappointed. Coming from the brembo pads, yes there is so much less dust, but you really have to lay into the brakes to get close to the same braking force.
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I put these on my brembo's when I needed pads, and am actually quite disappointed. Coming from the brembo pads, yes there is so much less dust, but you really have to lay into the brakes to get close to the same braking force.
there is no one pad does it all, sir.

you still get the same braking distance, but initial bite is less.
its all a trade off for less dusting.

so, you, individually, will have to figure out what is more important to you. dust or initial bite.


Because its VERY unfair to compare the two as they are not intended or do not have the same features...as they are made out of two completely different compounds.

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Originally Posted by justnspace
there is no one pad does it all, sir.

you still get the same braking distance, but initial bite is less.
its all a trade off for less dusting.

so, you, individually, will have to figure out what is more important to you. dust or initial bite.


Because its VERY unfair to compare the two as they are not intended or do not have the same features...as they are made out of two completely different compounds.
My Cmax definitely don't have the same initial bite as the oem pads, but they dust a lot less and they're not bad by any means.

Next time I plan on getting Stoptech brakes.
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Not sure whether long-term price is a factor for the OP, but I feel it's worth mentioning that with Duralast CMAX pads, you buy them once and then you never have to buy them ever again.

Changed my brakes about a month and a half ago and took the old set to AutoZone, and they gave me a brand new set of front and rear pads. Not having to pay for new pads every time you change them means that it becomes a zero-cost maintenance item.

I've never had any problems with the Duralast Cmax pads, even though they have the downsides to a ceramic, driving all over the west each year and stopping the car in -30 snowdrifts every single year that I've owned my TL. I see no reason for me to change, but that's just me.
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Originally Posted by Will Y.
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The ProActs are great on my 5AT TL-- they leave less dust than stock, are quiet and have never come close to fading.

However, OP has a Type-S which has Brembo calipers.
Akebono has Performance Pads (also ceramic) for the TL Brembos, but not ProActs.

I assume OP wants to try something other than the stock Brembo pads, which do leave more dust.
It looks like I'm going to give the Akebono Performance pads a shot, there aren't many reviews but the few I have found are good. Here is the part number for the Type S with Brembos Manufacturer Part #: ASP1001
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I had experience in the past with SCCA any pad offer you dust less isn't offer the intial bite you looking for. This is a no no in race track (I found out after realizing losing to another car during corner braking). Track pads is so dirty/noisey but they offer really good bite.

rule of thumb is what you really want? performance or less dust. I perosally think that I don't need to brake hard as during race track therefore CMAX is good enough for me and the OEM pads is way too dusty and yet the bit isn't anywhere close to the TRACK pads offer.
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Originally Posted by DuoDSG
Not sure whether long-term price is a factor for the OP, but I feel it's worth mentioning that with Duralast CMAX pads, you buy them once and then you never have to buy them ever again.

Changed my brakes about a month and a half ago and took the old set to AutoZone, and they gave me a brand new set of front and rear pads. Not having to pay for new pads every time you change them means that it becomes a zero-cost maintenance item.

I've never had any problems with the Duralast Cmax pads, even though they have the downsides to a ceramic, driving all over the west each year and stopping the car in -30 snowdrifts every single year that I've owned my TL. I see no reason for me to change, but that's just me.
I agree, I've been getting Autozone pads for years. Once they wear out I just take them back and get a brand new pair. I've probably done it close to 10 times between my cars and my families.
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Another vote for Akebono ProAct. I have it on my Lexus LS 430, low dust
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My friend had Akebono's on his VW GLI, and he said they were absolutely junk. He said they were terrible.
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What are the front factory rotors like on these cars, should I replace them? Car has 55km on them.
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Wagner Thermo Quiet semi-metallics. Good stopping power with NO DUST.
Part MX1049, only $24.99 for the set from rockauto.


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I like the hawk Z code front pads, designed to have no squeaking:

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I have the Akebono Performance Pads (Tire Rack: $76 for the front, $57 for the rear) and love them. No noise, no visible dust, very linear braking but a little less initial bite than the OEM pads. I've had them for several thousand miles and love them. They are very strong.

http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/brake...c+Transmission
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Just purchased my new front pads and rotors, I went in a little bit of a different direction and purchased Hawk HPS pads and their brand new Sector 27 rotors. The reviews on the HPS pads are excellent but I'm taking a chance with the rotors as they just came on the market with little to no reviews.

I won't be making the swap until the spring along with changing out the fluid and will chime in then with my thoughts.
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My cousins swears by those pads for street and track use!
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IMO, nothing compares to the OEM. I'll be going back to OEM at my next pad change, maybe sooner.

For my first (and only, so far) front pad change, I went with the RB ET300s. I'm satisfied with them, but the OEM pads are a step above the ET300s IMO.

The good: zero dusting, great wear, decent performance. I have 100K miles on the ET300s and they are only half worn, if that!!

The bad: don't perform as well as the OEM pads and some noise at times.
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
IMO, nothing compares to the OEM. I'll be going back to OEM at my next pad change, maybe sooner.

For my first (and only, so far) front pad change, I went with the RB ET300s. I'm satisfied with them, but the OEM pads are a step above the ET300s IMO.

The good: zero dusting, great wear, decent performance. I have 100K miles on the ET300s and they are only half worn, if that!!

The bad: don't perform as well as the OEM pads and some noise at times.

I have to disagree, if cars came from the factory with thehighest quality and best performing parts the cost would be far beyond what most could afford. Also, if that were the case there would be no need for aftermarket part manufactures.
Old 11-30-2014, 05:09 PM
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someone posted a nice chart showing many brands pads and there relative fade resistance, pad life, rotor life, dust, noise etc....

Anyone know where that is...
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Originally Posted by soon2b954
I have to disagree, if cars came from the factory with thehighest quality and best performing parts the cost would be far beyond what most could afford. Also, if that were the case there would be no need for aftermarket part manufactures.
There are probably more threads on brake pads on this forum than anything except maybe oil. (Which makes this thread just another redundant thread among hundreds of brake pad threads). I challenge you to find one post where someone thought AM pads performed BETTER than the OEM pads.

Originally Posted by soon2b954
It's almost time to replace my factory pads on my 08 Type S. Any suggestions for pads that offer more bite and less brake dust? TIA
^^^^^Bottom line, the answer to your question is: NO.

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here is the chart:
centric or stoptech info:
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
There are probably more threads on brake pads on this forum than anything except maybe oil. (Which makes this thread just another redundant thread among hundreds of brake pad threads). I challenge you to find one post where someone thought AM pads performed BETTER than the OEM pads.



^^^^^Bottom line, the answer to your question is: NO.
Take a trip over to Tire Rack or AutoAnything and look at the 100's of reviews yourself. I guess anyone on this site who upgraded anything on their car just wasted their money and should have left it stock. To each their own.
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also is new ss brake lines worth the $100?
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Originally Posted by soon2b954
Take a trip over to Tire Rack or AutoAnything and look at the 100's of reviews yourself....
Why waste our time when you've already done the research by reading those reviews yourself? Since you've been over there, please tell us which pads (according to the Tire Rack or AutoAnything reviews) perform better than Brembo OEM pads with less dust?

If such a pad exists, I'll certainly consider it.
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Originally Posted by blownby
also is new ss brake lines worth the $100?
Ask yourself this question: Why would you want SS brake lines? If you don't know (like me), then the answer to your question is "NO".

Improved pedal feel (this is a bit subjective) and longevity are two "advantages" of SS lines. They won't improve stopping distance one bit and if you're going to sell your car in a few years, the longevity issue is null. So then you're down to whether improved pedal feel is worth the price...

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Originally Posted by blownby
also is new ss brake lines worth the $100?

The biggest difference is expansion during pressurization which meansstronger pedal feel, I have heard fitment may be an issue though. Maybe otherscan chime in.




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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
Why waste our time when you've already done the research by reading those reviews yourself? Since you've been over there, please tell us which pads (according to the Tire Rack or AutoAnything reviews) perform better than Brembo OEM pads with less dust?

If such a pad exists, I'll certainly consider it.
Already posted above what I purcahsed, Hawk HPS pads.
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Not to be that guy but reviews are just people and their experiences. How many of those reviews are from mechanics or people that compare OEM to aftermarket (stopping power/distance stopping/different circumstances) and really put the pads to the test.

OEM are great, one of the best. If you didn't want OEM, stop tech and hawk are great. stop tech rotors are

For instance:
I see so many people posting ebay rotors for cheap and how they're great, but I have seen ebay rotors literally crack or break apart from heat or abusive use. Now how much credibility do those reviews have? It comes down to success rate/dynamics of how they're made and how long they last.

Think about this, we own an acura, I'm sure acura wouldn't put a crap pad on a car in hopes of customers coming back to get new pads or have premature wear..

That goes for suspension too, we live in a competitive world and most don't know that many suspensions are made by the same manufacturer. Did you know that d2 and k sport are one in the same? Or how many times I replace shocks from blown function and form type 1's.

Most people don't post reviews or sometimes companies websites are set up that they can delete comments so how fair is that to not be able to see the negatives?
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Originally Posted by GOOSEej
I use Akebono ProAct pads I love them! Low dust and very good grip.. Ive put them to the test several times here with all the Los Angeles traffic.
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I used the Autozone Duralast C-MAX as recommended by many on Azine...low dust and they stop me just fine.
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I've got Akebono Street Performance Pads and Raybestos painted rotors.
Initial bite is there, great stopping, very low dust.
I don't know what the difference between ProACT and ASP are?
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Another vote for Akebono ProAct. I have it on my Lexus LS 430, low dust
another one for Akebono Proact
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CENTRIC Part # 30910010, aka StopTech Street Performance Brake Pads. They're $56.79 at Rockauto.
We carry the Street Performance pads on our website. In many cases we price match. PM me or send us an email to sales@excelerateperformance.com and we'll get you a quote!
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Originally Posted by GKinColo08TL
I used the Autozone Duralast C-MAX as recommended by many on Azine...low dust and they stop me just fine.
You are right they are fine brake pads, but nothing special. They have not initial bite, but that's typical of ceramic.

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We carry the Street Performance pads on our website. In many cases we price match. PM me or send us an email to sales@excelerateperformance.com and we'll get you a quote!
That's good to know. Because I've priced out Stoptech front and rear pads along with slotted Stoptech rotors all the way around on my 6spd.
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Originally Posted by blownby
here is the chart:
centric or stoptech info:
Centric Parts Brake Pads - Comparison
Pass on centric pads, YES to their coated rust proof rotors.

I had the Posi-Quiet Metallic pads, GARBAGE! They made tons of noise the 1st few thousand miles and then at about 7K made the wheels blacker than the ace of spades. Their rotors on the other hand have help up well.
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