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Old 05-22-2019, 07:22 PM
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Just a question. I have a 05 auto TL and have done all 105k service. Change oil on time all the time. 121k. I take care of this car very well. Car drives very smooth. I have the very very annoying knock/tick when idle and up to about 1800rpm. I thought the valve adjustment would solve it but didnt. So my pops got a 2001 cl type s w/ 122k that is very quiet and smooth but he rarely uses the car. He offered to swap with me, but we dont know much and there isnt much info. I read his is a J32A1 and the TL is J32A3. Does anyone know if I could swap it? I dont care about losing some power or whatever, I just cant stand the ticking. Like I said its just a question. Id appreciate any info. Thank you.
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Just a question. I have a 05 auto TL and have done all 105k service. Change oil on time all the time. 121k. I take care of this car very well. Car drives very smooth. I have the very very annoying knock/tick when idle and up to about 1800rpm. I thought the valve adjustment would solve it but didnt. So my pops got a 2001 cl type s w/ 122k that is very quiet and smooth but he rarely uses the car. He offered to swap with me, but we dont know much and there isnt much info. I read his is a J32A1 and the TL is J32A3. Does anyone know if I could swap it? I dont care about losing some power or whatever, I just cant stand the ticking. Like I said its just a question. Id appreciate any info. Thank you.
For enough money the swap can be done, but why bother; for far less you can buy a good condition J32A3 or a J35A6 and drop them in with no issues. That said, my take is your best bet would be to have the knock/tick professionally diagnosed.
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Also forgot to mention my mechanic will do the job for the most $500.
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Also forgot to mention my mechanic will do the job for the most $500.
Trust me, he will not be putting a J32A1 into a 3G TL for $500, ain't not gonna happen.
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Yes he will, absolutely. It was his n my pops idea. Hes a family friend.
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Yes he will, absolutely. It was his n my pops idea. Hes a family friend.
You missed the point, the J32A1 will not work in a 3G TL; there are just too many differences for the swap to happen for $500. You can insist it will work all you want, but when you get into it, you're going to be very disappointed. Said another way, be smart, figure out what is wrong with your engine or buy a new engine.
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And thats the type of answer i was looking for. I wasnt sure of switching any parts like that. Thank you. And I was just insisting on the price he would do tje job for. He is gonna talk to his boss tomorrow and ask. But thank you for the info.
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Swap j35a6!!
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Swap j35a6!!
Can i ask what is the difference?
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Originally Posted by cp328
Can i ask what is the difference?
The difference is 0.3 liters of extra displacement, a tad less horsepower up near redline, and in nice bump in torque in the mid range.
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Originally Posted by cp328
Can i ask what is the difference?
cp328, if you are seriously entertaining an engine swap, the difference is the J35A6 is more compatible to your 3rd generation 2005 TL automatic and has been PROVEN here on this forum by teh CL when he swapped one into his 05 TL-6 speed.

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I found out that the J35A6 out of the 05+ Odyssey (LX/EX only) is literally a direct drop in. The motors share nearly all of the same part numbers & the main thing was that the transmission bolts right up. Deciding factor was seeing the 7th gen Accord guys dropping it into they're cars easily.
Review his thread below for more details.

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...spd-tl-964791/


BTW, If your father's 2nd generation 2001 CL-S is, in fact, a Type-S model, it has a J32A2 engine. The J32A1 you mention came in the CL-P models from 2001-2003. These engines are from a different generation and are not 'drive by wire' like your 05 TL automatic.

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Originally Posted by horseshoez
The difference is 0.3 liters of extra displacement, a tad less horsepower up near redline, and in nice bump in torque in the mid range.
And one more thing, the J35A6 is rated for Regular fuel, not Premium.
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Originally Posted by zeta
cp328, if you are seriously entertaining an engine swap, the difference is the J35A6 is more compatible to your 3rd generation 2005 TL automatic and has been PROVEN here on this forum by teh CL when he swapped one into his 05 TL-6 speed.



Review his thread below for more details.

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-p...spd-tl-964791/


BTW, If your father's 2nd generation 2001 CL-S is, in fact, a Type-S model, it has a J32A2 engine. The J32A1 you mention came in the CL-P models from 2001-2003. These engines are from a different generation and are not 'drive by wire' like your 05 TL automatic.
Thanks for the info I appreciate it ... I think these TLs look better than 90% of cars out today. I am the 2nd owner n hope to keep this car for a long time so i really am looking into engine and tranny replacement when time comes. I see it as way cheaper than buying a new car.
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And one more thing, the J35A6 is rated for Regular fuel, not Premium.
That is a huge plus. Here in NY, I paid $3.49 a gallon for premium. I will look into that, thank you.
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Originally Posted by cp328
Thanks for the info I appreciate it ... I think these TLs look better than 90% of cars out today. I am the 2nd owner n hope to keep this car for a long time so i really am looking into engine and tranny replacement when time comes. I see it as way cheaper than buying a new car.
I feel exactly the same way, hence the fact I put about $5,000 of preventative maintenance into my 2006 last year.

Given yours is an Automatic, your best long-term transmission option is the so-called AV6 transmission from a 2007-2008 V6 (not Hybrid) Honda Accord; these transmissions have the manufacturing code of BAYA and are considered to be the best/most reliable and ultimate version of Honda's 5-Speed automatic transmission (at least the ones bolt-up compatible with the 2004-2006 TL's J32A3 and the J35A6 from 2005-2006 Honda Odyssey and 2005 Honda Pilot).
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You can use the odyssey trans with it also. Probably easier to find one with lower miles... .you do j35 swap for the torque!!
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Originally Posted by horseshoez
I feel exactly the same way, hence the fact I put about $5,000 of preventative maintenance into my 2006 last year.

Given yours is an Automatic, your best long-term transmission option is the so-called AV6 transmission from a 2007-2008 V6 (not Hybrid) Honda Accord; these transmissions have the manufacturing code of BAYA and are considered to be the best/most reliable and ultimate version of Honda's 5-Speed automatic transmission (at least the ones bolt-up compatible with the 2004-2006 TL's J32A3 and the J35A6 from 2005-2006 Honda Odyssey and 2005 Honda Pilot).
Thanks for the info. Yes i heard about those transmissions for this car. Thats the plan though, hopefully not as soon as i think though.
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