SUPERCAPRICORN

I have an 05 TL auto with 77,000 miles. want to do a simple tranny drain and refill at my next oil change. its currently filled with z1 and im hearing good things about this new dw-1 fluid. my dilemma is which one should i go with. my tranny shifts perfect and i don't want any problems when im trying to do good for my car. some on the forums say go with it its cool others say not to use it in an older tranny as it might cause shift problems. any insight would be appreciated.

cjTL

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Do not use Z1 unless you want your car to shift like cow manure. DW-1 if you're one who insists on OEM fluids. Redline Racing ATF is what you ideally want, 9 courts of it in order to do a 3x3 flush. Search for the dozens of tranny threads for more info.

NIGHTEHAWK

If you search the threads, most of them say redline....I am a firm believer of redline!

SUPERCAPRICORN

Im concerned! Will switching to DW-1 at this mileage hurt the tranny or cause shifting issues?

TampaJim

DW-1 was developed in June 2009. DW-1 was developed for improved low temperature performance. It is required for 2011 and newer model-year vehicles, it is backwards compatible to previous model years. ATF DW-1 is the primary ATF for Honda and Acura vehicles with ATF Z-1 relegated to very limited applications. You are just fine with the newer product.

Turbonut

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No.

paperboy42190

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if you only want OEM fluid, then dw-1 is the way to go

brnm8brn

make sure you get it at honda dealer, its 2 dollars a quart cheaper there

kingkong_dav

Put anything you want in there except ATF made for Domestic cars and add a bottle of this http://lubegard.com/~/C-113/LUBEGARD...ATF+Protectant . better than dw1 and redline atf... i did and now im passing on the greatness

pokin

When Acura replaced my Transmission recently, they filled with DW-1.

SUPERCAPRICORN

Thanks for all the replies. I feel reassured now. Will change oil tomorrow and do a single drain and refill with DW-1. Will post observations accordingly for all to have.

swoosh

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I say NEITHER...go Redline Type F....

TWiSDiT

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I hate cars will bash u on this!

Redline Type-F or D4.

I did a 3x3 with redline D4. The gears shift smooth like butter. Before i could feel the gears change through the pedal, now thats all gone.

I hate cars

Stop spreading this crap. If you have an opinion, post it as an opinion. There is no such thing as "ATF made for Domestic cars". All fluids are very close to the same with the differences being friction modifier level and viscosity. The only real difference in viscosity is between the DW-1/DexVI and all of the other fluids. ATFs are more alike than different. Do some research around here before posting this stuff.

As I said before, you started with a good DexIII fluid and added a bottle of FM to bring it back to Z1 levels. You should have saved your money and not bought the lubegard.

I don't care enough anymore. If they won't search, they won't get the good stuff. It kind of works out in the end.

kingkong_dav

DEX 3 is a TEMP ATF replacement as indicated in the 07 TLS owners manual you rookie. when i used the dex3 it had poor and late shifts but when i added the lubegard it shift like a champ. hahahaha this guy is funny . read the chart on lubegard it can even ENHANCE the operating fluid tempurate protecting the trans up to 450degrees.

Dont listen to a guy with a base 05 tl. listen to a guy with the TYPE SEX

especially a guy from bakersfield where there is nothing but dirt. no kind of resources out there, he probably never seen a lubegard before. hahahaha

NAMco

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I smell war.

TheChamp531

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Ban him mods. Such a troll.

Legend2TL

Use the DW-1, we switched from the Z1 to the DW-1 a couple years ago in my wife's Pilot (similar 5AT to the TL). It has 190K miles and still shifting fine. I do a single drain/fill every 10K miles, BTW.

TWiSDiT

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hahah at the noob who just joined 6 months ago. You should have taken the time to do some research on the forum from couple of the pioneers on the forum ( i hate cars, Innacurate) where they took the time and decency to do a lot of research on our car's transmission foes..

cjTL

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GoldenShoes

OP if your gonna stick with OEM, go with the DW-1.

I'm on my second drain&fill with the Redline D4 and the shifts are definitely better than the Z1. I know it's just my opinion, but after reading A LOT of threads on tranny fluid I'll never go back to Z1 or even DW-1 for that matter.

Redline all day, every day...

Steven Bell

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Warning issued.

Keep it clean guys-constructive input only.

Thanks.

GeaugaDog

Redline TypeF is the only way to go IMO

Project_CLean

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I've also heard good things on the Redline; but I work at the dealer so it makes it easier for me to get OEM fluids,and if it came with the car it's gotta be good for it. The DW-1 (for those that are stil confused) is basically just an updated version of the z-1. 'Reformulated' if you will. It's supposed to improve fuel economy in colder weather climates. and Dealer specifies that it can be used in any year car BUT we cannot use the older Z-1 fluid in our new model year vehicles.

I hate cars

You obvoiusly don't have the brain power to comprehend anything about the ATF so I'll leave that alone.

Not too knowledgable about Bakersfield either. No resources, even though we make 3/4 of Cailifornia's oil. You're welcome to come over the hill and educate me in person anytime. I feel that a lot is lost over the keyboard and internet, I would rather hear from you in person. Maybe we can agree on some things.

swoosh

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^^^ leave it along bro....I think he has been banned....

trolls dont deserve that kind of attention

go Redline Type-F LOL

RaviNJCLs

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I opted to go with the DW-1 instead of Redline when I swapped the transmission fluid. My reason was that I wanted to stay with the Honda recommended fluid.

I hate cars

I understand but don't forget the class action lawsuit and how many failures were on the recommended fluid and how many failures that began on the recommended fluid were fixed with the aftermarket fluid.

scottn3

Resurrecting instead of starting new...

Does the Lubegard ATF Protectant (red bottle: LUBEGARD Automatic Transmission Fluid Protectant) provide any additional benefits to the Redline fluid? The info on the website and user reviews is pretty compelling for its ability to clean valves, lower operating temp, reduce oxidations, etc.

I had a 3G TL and am a big believer in Redline Racing ATF and understand the reasoning well.
I now have a 4G TL and the 6AT is much worse in many ways and the torque converters on this generation are trash. They try to lock up as early as possible and cause all kinds of problems.

I just filled my 4G with Redline D6 (w 2 qts Racing) and things are a little better. I am still getting a little shutter and surging in the higher gears.

So I'd like to understand more about how this ATF Protectant works and any down sides to adding it to the Redline.

doggydog

So what happened with the class action lawsuit? BTW gettting a new to me 2006 TL with 44k miles , what oil you recommened for the tranny ? Thanks

Scottwax

Are you using the Honda one? Because that's for shops so they can use Dextron III (or whatever they are using now) and add in the Honda additive package. If this is one of their universal protectant products I would think it would help longevity. Lubegard stuff is legit.