3G TL (2004-2008)
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

6MT Axle Replacement w/GSP CV Shafts vs. Raxles

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-09-2017, 01:37 PM
  #81  
Race Director
 
nfnsquared's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: MAGA country
Posts: 12,474
Received 1,793 Likes on 1,346 Posts
Thanks!! Did the GSP come with the dampers for each side? If not, did you install the dampers from the OEM shafts onto the GSP shafts?

I'm about to replace both upper and lower ball joints (still have originals) and I figured it might be a good idea to do the axles at the same time even though they aren't giving me any problems. Really a crap shoot on whether or not to replace, I guess. AA has the GSP axles for $153 shipped (both, 10% discount) with LLT warranty. Hard to beat that peace of mind I suppose...
Old 01-09-2017, 01:38 PM
  #82  
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Majofo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Waffles, BU
Posts: 88,888
Received 11,841 Likes on 8,573 Posts
I believe they weren't included. I think it did come with new axle nuts though.

I don't think I installed the dampers from the old shafts.
Old 01-09-2017, 01:39 PM
  #83  
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Majofo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Waffles, BU
Posts: 88,888
Received 11,841 Likes on 8,573 Posts
I actually have a set of new shafts for the TL, auto though. Thinking of putting them on CL.
Old 01-09-2017, 01:41 PM
  #84  
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Majofo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Waffles, BU
Posts: 88,888
Received 11,841 Likes on 8,573 Posts
Popping the axle nut was a bitch on my passenger side. Removing the shafts just takes finesse and a big ass pry bar.
I would suggest replacing the axle seal if you're going to replace the axle. My seal was leaking on the driver side.
Old 01-09-2017, 01:43 PM
  #85  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,882
Received 8,583 Likes on 6,630 Posts
Originally Posted by Majofo
I actually have a set of new shafts for the TL, auto though. Thinking of putting them on CL.
OEM?

Would they fit Type S?
Old 01-09-2017, 01:52 PM
  #86  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
fuck, i dont want to deal with the labor on these.
Old 01-09-2017, 01:55 PM
  #87  
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Majofo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Waffles, BU
Posts: 88,888
Received 11,841 Likes on 8,573 Posts
I think they're carquest / worldpac axles from Advance. They didn't have GSP axles, so I picked up the carquest brand.

NFN, don't forget to drain the trans first.
A buddy of mine was asking a bunch of questions about replacing axles when he was working on his wife's car..
I forgot to remind him to drain the trans first.. came back a day later.. he gave me a poker face thanks, looked down at his soaked garage floor.
Old 01-09-2017, 01:56 PM
  #88  
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Majofo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Waffles, BU
Posts: 88,888
Received 11,841 Likes on 8,573 Posts
I'm guessing NFN just wants to pop those axle nuts with his IR!!!
Old 01-09-2017, 01:56 PM
  #89  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,882
Received 8,583 Likes on 6,630 Posts
Originally Posted by justnspace
fuck, i dont want to deal with the labor on these.

Why not DIY?
Old 01-09-2017, 01:59 PM
  #90  
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Majofo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Waffles, BU
Posts: 88,888
Received 11,841 Likes on 8,573 Posts
When I was working on the TL, it was before the Dewalt..
I was jumping on my 3 foot breaker bar like a pogo stick. Lucky I didn't break anything on the car or my body.
It finally popped.. and I'm not so tiny.

It was far easier to pop the crank pulley bolt with that method than the passenger side axle nut. The driver side was easy. Not sure what hung it up.

I appreciate those times, and it makes me appreciate power tools so much more.. life is good!
Old 01-09-2017, 01:59 PM
  #91  
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Majofo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Waffles, BU
Posts: 88,888
Received 11,841 Likes on 8,573 Posts
Originally Posted by thoiboi
Why not DIY?
I'm pretty sure he's saying, he doesn't want to do the labor, not pay for it.
The following users liked this post:
justnspace (01-09-2017)
Old 01-09-2017, 02:00 PM
  #92  
Race Director
 
nfnsquared's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: MAGA country
Posts: 12,474
Received 1,793 Likes on 1,346 Posts
Originally Posted by Majofo
I'm guessing NFN just wants to pop those axle nuts with his IR!!!
Hehe, yup!! I ain't worried about them axle nuts coming off

I was watching the ETCG video and I didn't notice any fluid leaking when he popped the driver's side. The SM does indeed say to drain the trans...My 6MT is due for a drain and fill of the GMSMF, so I'll just drain it anyhow...

Last edited by nfnsquared; 01-09-2017 at 02:05 PM.
Old 01-09-2017, 02:02 PM
  #93  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,882
Received 8,583 Likes on 6,630 Posts
Originally Posted by Majofo
I'm pretty sure he's saying, he doesn't want to do the labor, not pay for it.

ahh thanks for translating, my crab is a bit rusty..
Old 01-09-2017, 02:02 PM
  #94  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
Originally Posted by Majofo
I'm pretty sure he's saying, he doesn't want to do the labor, not pay for it.
cuz its labor intensive, joethoiboi
Old 01-09-2017, 02:03 PM
  #95  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
Originally Posted by Majofo
When I was working on the TL, it was before the Dewalt..
I was jumping on my 3 foot breaker bar like a pogo stick. Lucky I didn't break anything on the car or my body.
It finally popped.. and I'm not so tiny.

It was far easier to pop the crank pulley bolt with that method than the passenger side axle nut. The driver side was easy. Not sure what hung it up.

I appreciate those times, and it makes me appreciate power tools so much more.. life is good!
can I borrow the Dewalt?
I'm tiny and had a hard time popping the crank bolt.
Old 01-09-2017, 02:06 PM
  #96  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,882
Received 8,583 Likes on 6,630 Posts
Originally Posted by justnspace
can I borrow the Dewalt?
I'm tiny and had a hard time popping the crank bolt.

go buy your own

Thinking about picking this one up instead of the Dewalt.
https://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-...rdless/2763-20
The following users liked this post:
justnspace (01-09-2017)
Old 01-09-2017, 02:07 PM
  #97  
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Majofo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Waffles, BU
Posts: 88,888
Received 11,841 Likes on 8,573 Posts
The Dewalt might spin you instead!
And no.. I read a review on you on yelp regarding a spare tire.
You can however drive over and I pop it for you, send you on your way
The following 2 users liked this post by Majofo:
justnspace (01-09-2017), thoiboi (01-09-2017)
Old 01-09-2017, 02:08 PM
  #98  
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Majofo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Waffles, BU
Posts: 88,888
Received 11,841 Likes on 8,573 Posts
I was going to get the IR..
But the Dewalt was slightly cheaper and they're growing their power tool segment.. I was sold.
Can't go wrong with IR, Dewalt or Milwaukee.

What really sold me on the Dewalt was aftermarket battery support. Dirt cheap.
Old 01-09-2017, 02:09 PM
  #99  
Race Director
 
nfnsquared's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: MAGA country
Posts: 12,474
Received 1,793 Likes on 1,346 Posts
I guess the novelty of self-inflicted chest hickies has worn off on CrabMan
The following 2 users liked this post by nfnsquared:
justnspace (01-09-2017), Majofo (01-09-2017)
Old 01-09-2017, 02:09 PM
  #100  
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Majofo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Waffles, BU
Posts: 88,888
Received 11,841 Likes on 8,573 Posts
^
The following users liked this post:
justnspace (01-09-2017)
Old 01-09-2017, 02:10 PM
  #101  
Moderator
iTrader: (1)
 
justnspace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 86,295
Received 16,260 Likes on 11,971 Posts
god damnit, majofo dont post the pic.
The following users liked this post:
Majofo (01-09-2017)
Old 01-09-2017, 02:10 PM
  #102  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,882
Received 8,583 Likes on 6,630 Posts
oooh.. wow didn't know there was aftermarket support. But that's a non-issue for me because I strongly dislike using non-OEM batteries in my things (read: brand-whore).
Old 01-09-2017, 02:17 PM
  #103  
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Majofo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Waffles, BU
Posts: 88,888
Received 11,841 Likes on 8,573 Posts
Explain to me why you're not driving a bimmer ladiboi?
Actually one of the 3rd parties is actually the manufacture of their lithium batteries, but sells an off-brand variety.
It's exactly the same package and cells but 1/3 the price. I bought the drill without a battery and the "3rd" party battery.. saved about $50 that way.
When it comes to lithium batteries.. I'm not a brand whore because that's the part that the mfg is saving their money. Lowest bid.
I used to work within component reliability for a computer mfg and it was the same way. My Ryobi lithium battery died within a month.. also very expensive and no third party support at the time.. got me NiCd replacements instead.
Old 01-09-2017, 02:25 PM
  #104  
Senior Moderator
 
thoiboi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal, CA
Posts: 46,882
Received 8,583 Likes on 6,630 Posts
Originally Posted by Majofo
Explain to me why you're not driving a bimmer ladiboi?
Actually one of the 3rd parties is actually the manufacture of their lithium batteries, but sells an off-brand variety.
It's exactly the same package and cells but 1/3 the price. I bought the drill without a battery and the "3rd" party battery.. saved about $50 that way.
When it comes to lithium batteries.. I'm not a brand whore because that's the part that the mfg is saving their money. Lowest bid.
I used to work within component reliability for a computer mfg and it was the same way. My Ryobi lithium battery died within a month.. also very expensive and no third party support at the time.. got me NiCd replacements instead.

Because cheap

Acra is a very reputable luxury brand


couldn't say that with a straight face..

I think I've just had poor QC on the 3rd party batteries I've bought for my GoPro and Canon dSLR that have deterred me from them altogether.
Old 01-09-2017, 02:34 PM
  #105  
Chapter Leader (Southern Region)
 
Majofo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Waffles, BU
Posts: 88,888
Received 11,841 Likes on 8,573 Posts
get the heck out of here.. you don't have a set of wasabi batteries.. best thing ever.

They're cheap.. buy 3 for price of 1.. if one takes a dump, two more!

I'd rather have one quality battery.. but you can't depend on OE being quality when it comes to batteries, with the exception of a few brands.
Old 02-06-2018, 06:53 PM
  #106  
10th Gear
 
Abacus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Kansas City
Age: 47
Posts: 12
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
necro.

my 2006 MT is still on original axles 185k miles and clicking is happening. I'm not going to go the Raxle route, I don't plan on keeping this car for more than another year or so, however I should replace so i'll do both sides because it's MT and I read that somewhere.

my question for you guys is should i go with the carquest brand from advanced autoparts, or GSV?

advanced autoparts 170 for both plus tax
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...136/10019600-p
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...127/20870401-p

gsv 150 for both
Amazon Amazon
Amazon Amazon

your insight is appreciated.
Old 02-08-2018, 02:03 PM
  #107  
Burning Brakes
 
90foxnotch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: OHIO
Age: 35
Posts: 977
Received 151 Likes on 127 Posts
Just thought Id chime in, My type s 6mt needs axles this spring so Ive been researching a lot and hear mixed reviews about aftermarket ones. I know a parts guy at my local Honda dealer and he recommends Advanced because they are brand new axles, not remans. He also laughed when he told me how much the OEM ones were and said they install a lot of advanced axles which I thought was funny.
Old 02-09-2018, 11:25 AM
  #108  
Burning Brakes
 
6spd-GERCO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: SE Wisconsin
Age: 36
Posts: 892
Received 356 Likes on 239 Posts
I pony'd up the money for OEM axles $450 for the pair, I keep the old axles as spares. The old Axles lasted 175k before I started to get the shake at certain RPM's it was due to a bad outer joint. I did the install my self pretty easy job.

INSANE SHAFTS Has TL AXLES for $370.00 the pair. I have a set for my Integra (not installed) they look really nice and the joints feel stout compared to my duralast axles lol.

Don't forget RockAuto, it's comparable in quality to the bigbox autoparts store axles without the overhead.
Old 02-10-2018, 08:05 PM
  #109  
Intermediate
 
fclegendland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Age: 68
Posts: 25
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
So are both axles specific to manuals? Auto axles (neither side) will not work in manuals? Correct? Reading through
this thread was a bit confusing.
Old 02-11-2018, 10:17 AM
  #110  
Latent car nut
iTrader: (2)
 
horseshoez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Southern New Hampshire
Age: 68
Posts: 7,844
Received 2,005 Likes on 1,407 Posts
Correct, the axles for the Auto and Manual cars are different.
Old 02-11-2018, 04:02 PM
  #111  
10th Gear
 
Abacus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Kansas City
Age: 47
Posts: 12
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Now I'm seeing alltime low price for both at some joint called CarID, the model numbers are correct, I think I'm just gonna buy them through here and have my local mechanic install for $200 since I'm an idiot and don't know anything.

https://www.carid.com/2006-acura-tl-...165078575.html
Attached Thumbnails 6MT Axle Replacement w/GSP CV Shafts vs. Raxles-capture.jpg  
Old 02-15-2018, 10:50 AM
  #112  
DMZ
Head a da Family
 
DMZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: New Friggin Jerzy
Age: 69
Posts: 5,505
Received 561 Likes on 393 Posts
With all this jib jab about Raxles, GSP, OEMs, etc, has anyone tried the lower cost alternatives from rockauto, like Cardone, a top brand name?
.
.
Old 02-16-2018, 06:26 PM
  #113  
Instructor
 
sweeT n Lo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 131
Received 18 Likes on 14 Posts
Originally Posted by Abacus
necro.

my 2006 MT is still on original axles 185k miles and clicking is happening. I'm not going to go the Raxle route, I don't plan on keeping this car for more than another year or so, however I should replace so i'll do both sides because it's MT and I read that somewhere.

my question for you guys is should i go with the carquest brand from advanced autoparts, or GSV?

advanced autoparts 170 for both plus tax
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...136/10019600-p
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...127/20870401-p

gsv 150 for both
https://www.amazon.com/GSP-NCV36136-...ype=automotive
https://www.amazon.com/GSP-NCV36127-.../dp/B0055PARS0

your insight is appreciated.
May be a ​​​​​​dumb question, but is it weird that the Carquest-new-cv-axle-shaft-assembly-ncv36136 and GSP-NCV36136-Axle-Shaft-Assembly axles have the same part number(s)? Are they made by the same manufacturer? Trying to figure out if I should just buy locally or order them from Amazon.
Old 05-19-2018, 09:28 AM
  #114  
4th Gear
 
Reinaldo Ortega's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2018
Age: 31
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
04 acura tl

I just lowered my car and now I'm having this bad shaking when I go 20 mph need help with this thanks in advance...
Old 07-08-2020, 06:13 PM
  #115  
Moderator Alumnus
 
SiGGy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Lenexa, KS
Age: 47
Posts: 9,263
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I replaced my axles with gsp. 6 speed manual. No issues with them once installed. It took me maybe 3 hours total going slow and that includes setup/putting away everything.

I recommend using an impact on the axle nuts to loosen them with wheels on before you lift it; no need to even mess with the indent on the lock the nut. And use torque sticks to get it to 120 lb/ft when installing.

Hardest part is getting lower ball joint out if you don't have a good tool. You could try the upper ball joint too though might be easier.

I paid ~$90 total for both I think from partsgeek.

I got about 120k out of the stock axles. I had steering wobble on acceleration,vibration and clicking/odd sounds especially in the winter.
.

Last edited by SiGGy; 07-08-2020 at 06:24 PM.
Old 07-08-2020, 06:43 PM
  #116  
Moderator Alumnus
 
SiGGy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Lenexa, KS
Age: 47
Posts: 9,263
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by fclegendland
So are both axles specific to manuals? Auto axles (neither side) will not work in manuals? Correct? Reading through
this thread was a bit confusing.
Only the passenger side (right) is different. Driver side (left) is the same been auto and manual.
Old 07-10-2020, 06:32 AM
  #117  
DMZ
Head a da Family
 
DMZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: New Friggin Jerzy
Age: 69
Posts: 5,505
Received 561 Likes on 393 Posts
The universal answer here is APWI's or SURTRACK from rockauto. Have them installed 2 years now and they're just fine. Under $50 each! Why keep pulling hair out of your head?

FYI, Paul, our star master mechanic here in Nawth Jerzy and my best bud from high school who owned an auto parts store for 25 years BOTH recommend AGAINST using remanufactured drive shafts.
.
.

Last edited by DMZ; 07-10-2020 at 06:35 AM.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
CU26MT
2G TSX Problems & Fixes
4
05-01-2020 11:30 PM
E39
3G TL Problems & Fixes
28
01-07-2018 01:00 PM
vulgarknight
1G TSX Tires, Wheels, & Suspension
2
09-02-2016 03:23 PM
Daniel Kucharski
3G TL Problems & Fixes
3
08-26-2013 03:16 PM
SlowRiderr
3G TL (2004-2008)
3
09-07-2009 10:11 PM



Quick Reply: 6MT Axle Replacement w/GSP CV Shafts vs. Raxles



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:08 AM.