2005 TL Timing Belt Change
 

92K and want to be proactive with timing belt change. I'm looking to get the following work done:

1. New Timing Belt & Tensioner
2. Water Pump
3. AC Belt & Tensioner
4. P/S Belt
5. Fluids

I was quoted $1,050 by private shop. Is this reasonable?

Thanks

Dealer rates are typically $900 - $1200 (give or take).

There was a dealer in SC with a special for, iirc, $599.

Thanks for the info....I thought it seemed a bit high for a private shop. I'll keep shopping.

That's very high for an indy shop. Check the Honda dealers near you. My local Honda would do it for $700 and that included a valve adjustment.

Also, remember that your odometer reads 5% too high, so you really only have 87,600 miles:

http://www.odosettlementinfo.com/

So if I'm sitting right at 105k miles, your saying that with the 5% overage i'm really at 99,750?

Depends on your car. Only applies up to (I think - read the settlement) 2006 plus 2007 Honda Fit.

I read through most of the settlement agreement and it seems to me that it pretains to any Honda or Acura from 2002-2006 PLUS the 2007 Fit

Guys, I have a 2004 TL with only 49,500 miles on it. Dealer is saying my car is due timing belt replacement since it is now 7yrs old but owners manual doesn't say any thing about replacing timing belt at 7yrs. Should I go for it?
I am based in Austin, TX and a dealer here is charging around $700 that includes replacing timing belt,water pump, drive belt and coolant flush. If I go for it should I also get spark plugs replaced and valves adjustment? How much more should this typically cost?

yes, they're not lying to you. it's 105k miles or 7 years, whichever comes first. I'm also due for one as well but I plan on waiting till around the Fall to do it (I've only got 55k miles, in a garage kept TL. that's gotta help something).

That's a fair price. See if you can get tensioners replaced with that price too. Your plugs and what not dont need to be done till 105k service. That's off the top of my head though. I might be wrong. Also your MID is what you should use to determine that extra work. Accordign to the service manual valve adjustment is only needed if noisy. Otherwise it's just inspected.

I've never seen that written anywhere for 3G TL's. Yes, the "4" on the MID does appear to come with the oil change interval nearest to 105K, but I went 7.5 years before I got the "4", so that throws the 7 years out the window.

If your car has been outside in the Texas heat for all these years, you might want to think about it. At this point, I'd be more concerned about a leaky tensioner than the belt, but it will all cost the same.... Really hard to know what to do in your case.

And check with a Honda dealer. My local honda dealer would do the whole thing plus valve adjustment for $700 (belt, 2 pulleys, water pump, tensioner).

mm i see. only re-stating what i've read on acurazine. I hope you're right then I dont have to spend 700 on a service that isnt needed until i basically double my mileage.

Something interesting i saw on myacura's site:
"3.2-Liter V-6 Engine No scheduled tune-ups required for 105,000 miles***"

"***Does not apply to fluid and filter changes or periodic inspections. Please refer to the maintenance section of your owner's manual to determine all appropriate maintenance intervals."

so technically we shouldnt have to worry about a thing regarding engine internals until 105k, rendering a valve job and sparkplug replacement redundant.

I tend to agree that timing belt shouldn't need to be replaced until car hits 105k or when MID says so but keeping in mind Texas heat I think I would go for it when I am on 60k miles... thanks guys for ur replies, really appreciate it.

Not sure where you are at but Hamilton Honda in NJ is running a special $389.99 for the timing belt job. I had an appointment with Hall Acura in Va Beach and they wanted $950.00 (still a good price). Don't have to tell you who I'm going cancel!!!!

local Honda dealership by me is $799 w/them supplying parts. Labor only is $400.
Local Acura dealership wanted $1600- $994 labor only...

I bought my OEM tbelt kit and pressure switches from Wholesalepartsguy for cheaper than what it would have cost from the dealer.

Shop around. My Honda dealer has no problem putting the OEM parts in. 2 local shops wouldn't install the parts even though they were OEM.

just wondering, why is everyone getting such high prices for parts?

timing belt is $40
timing belt tensioner is $87
water pump is $98

the rest is the drive belt and auto tensioner right? those dont cost very much. why are people getting quoted so much when i only see < $250 in parts.

A deal that cannot be beat!

Be sure to add $75 for the hydraulic tensioner which almost always needs to be replaced.
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My car is there right now!

Here is a detailed video with step-by-step instruction on the replacement of the timing belt on the Honda Acura V6 J Series engine, including the replacement of the pulleys, tensioner, as well as the water pump and special tools needed to complete the job.

Thats a good price for the belt and I bet thats just for the belt. Add tensioner and water pump and price goes up. If your replacing the belt might as well do the others. Just my opinion.

You are just dumb if you dont replace the water pump, tensioner, and all the pulleys while you are in there.

The lowest i have found in the cities is 1200 (w/parts)! Screw that, ill take a saturday and do it myself!

I looked around Minneapolis for quotes too...same experience. Every place just seems to quote book time 1000-1500 depending on services. I did it myself a few weeks ago for a quarter of the cost.

When to get the timing Belt Replaced on a TL.

A lot of posts early in this thread quote the 105K mile or 7 year requirement to replace the timing belt. Remember when the maintenance schedule was made up the aveage mileage of a car was 15K a year. That is why you don't see 7 years in the manual although 7 x 15K = 105K. Also replacement should be based on age as well, even if mileage is low. The timing belt is rubber and other materials that age with time, that is why you see 7 years as a common number, especially in a hot state. Now seven years is based on the 15k a year guage and is not exact. After reading these threads for a couple of years and determining that somewhere in 7-10 years is really the range depending on your driving habits, mileage, and weather extremes. I have a garage kept Virginia 9 year old 04 TL that I am just getting ready to get the timing belt done; and it still only has 76k on it. In my case time is beginning to work against me on this. I plan on doing a lot of traveling in the fall and it will have a new timing belt by then. Remember, Acura/Honda "Recommends Service Intervals" that are typically conservative to be sure customers are happy and cars are reliable. Unless you are already past the extreme end of a service interval, you usually can add another 10-20% and still be reasonably safe things will be OK. (Ignore this last comment if you are hard on a car.)

Have a 06 MDX with 89K miles on it. geepurs, you're right; I heard a clicking noise the other day and the dealership stated it might be the tensioner so went ahead and had the timing belt, water pump with coolant change, drive belts AND tensioner (since it's V6) changed at a Honda dealership - Anderson Honda, Cockeyesville, Maryland for $497 total incl taxes. They are running a special on timing belt, water pump with coolant change and drive belts for 4 cyl models for $398 (http://www.andersonhonda.net/Specials/auto-service). My local Acura dealer wanted $1550. Hope this helps someone looking for a deal..

I replaced my timing belt, 06-TL, @105k. Now at 126k dealer tells me I have an oil pump leak at the back filter, not accessible with timing belt change. While on vacation in remote part of Northern CA, Gold Country, a loud, intermittent "Clacking" sound is coming from the engine compartment. No leaking, no smell of oil, no check engine light coming on. Can I continue to drive a few hundred miles safely? What damage might occur? Help!

Might be a loose spark plug. Check them asap!! Especially #2 and #5 (center plug).

Did you do your own TB? Were the plugs removed or replaced when the TB was replaced?

And no, don't run the engine until you check the plugs....

Anybody have links to good deals on the timing belt parts?

belt, pump, tensioner...


/edit. I just found the following on Amazon, sound good?

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Facto.../dp/B00GNDYUDQ

^^ if you want a timing belt inhave an extra I can sell for cheap. It's just sitting around.

Thanks but I'd like to get one that is as new as possible. Age is a factor besides wear and tear.

Check rockauto.com and get the Aisin kit. All OEM parts without the Honda name on the package, for a lot less!
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Rockauto has it the cheapest, and you can easily find a 3% off coupon.

That's a 5% off coupon. Do a Google search on rockauto coupon.
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I got my complete Aisin kit; belt, tensioner, pulleys, water pump for $175 shipped by rockauto. Got it the next day.

The only thing that requires more skill then turning a wrench is the crank damper bolt. I tried the damper holder tool with 2 1/2" breaker bars, 19mm impact socket and 20" impact extension resting on a jack stand... wouldnt budge. Put the socket on a breaker bar, rested it against the inner fender and did a 1/2 second starter bump, that loosened the bolt with no issues at all! The tool was worthless to my situation and if you must use it, try 3/4 in bars and extensions. No reason to though unless youre worried a half second of turning the key will result in engine mount failure somehow.

or use the harmonic bolt recommended in the DIY Timing belt kit :shrug: