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Old 05-19-2014, 10:00 AM
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Cool 2004 Acura TL 5 speed manual?

I can not figure out why my 2004 Acura TL has a 5 speed manual transmission? When I look it up on NADA and KBB it asks if it is a 6 speed manual or automatic. Why a 5 speed manual, was that an option from factory or did somebody put an aftermarket in? ??? puzzled
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No, there never ever ever was a 5-spd manual tranny for the TL.
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there were only 2 options.
a 5 speed automatic
and a 6 speed manual.

it is VERY unlikely that they swapped out the transmission.
it is more likely they swapped out the shifter knob
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Old 05-19-2014, 10:06 AM
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you mean a 5 speed auto with "Manual" option perhaps?

do you see the letters P R and N on your center console?
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Originally Posted by chev0131
I can not figure out why my 2004 Acura TL has a 5 speed manual transmission? When I look it up on NADA and KBB it asks if it is a 6 speed manual or automatic. Why a 5 speed manual, was that an option from factory or did somebody put an aftermarket in? ??? puzzled

Interesting. If your car is indeed a Manual 04 TL, it should have 6 gears and Reverse. How do you figure it's a 5 speed?

Can you physically not put the car into 6th gear?
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Old 05-19-2014, 10:17 AM
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Ok thanks to all for your input. I bought this car about 3 months ago and assumed it was a 5 speed manual transmission because the gear shifter displays 5 gears and reverse. but when I put insurance on it and when I would value it using nada and kbb I could never find the 5 speed manual option. so it bothered me and I tried to figure it out. so after posting this thread and seeing the comments I took it out on the highway, determined to find the 6th gear, and yes I found out! apparently previous owner put a 5 speed shifter nob on it :/ I like my car even more now
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so I've been driving this car for several months now and never used the 6th gear and I drive 4 lane highways a lot. should help fuel mileage LOL
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lol at finding sixth.
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thats hilarious, a secret 6th gear... hahaha. The last owner played a mean joke on you dude
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Old 05-19-2014, 10:33 AM
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Wtf. So being at 4000rpm on the highway never raised any questions? Haha how does your car have a shift knob that only shows 5 gears?!? Man, people do funny things to used cars.
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Old 05-19-2014, 10:36 AM
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6th gear is like finding "11" on your speaker volume!



Rawk on!
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Old 05-19-2014, 10:41 AM
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yes driving at 4000 rpm did raise some questions... although it probably stayed around 3500 at 75 mph... but with cruise control it seemed too responsive... but my shifter knob said nothing about a 6th gear, so it was hidden from me... on my 5 speed shifter knob "R" is where "6" is. hence why I haven't tried it before... yea its hilarious now, but Im so happy to have solved this mystery
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1 3 5
2 4 R
Is how it reads.
How should it read?
1 3 5
2 4 6 R ?


Does it lock out "REVERSE" when driving forward?
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Originally Posted by chev0131

1 3 5
2 4 6 R



That's how it should read.
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yes it locks out reverse when moving.

or at least it should. I think there was someone where the solenoid failed and let the guy shift into R. Pretty rare though.
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it does lock out reverse while traveling forward as modern cars do this now
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this is awesome
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OP did you even check the gears especially the 3rd?? Also, wouldn't it been weird that when you place it in R that it wasn't align with the 5th gear?

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The fuck did I just read?!?!?
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Wow, my chuckles have been had for this day.

Thx for the update OP, and congrats on finding another gear.
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This is great,

congrats on 6th gear discovery'

Get rid of that shifter and get a 6spd shifter IMO!
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Here are some cool 6-speed options:

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Anyone tried the Mugen Si shift knob? Part number 54102-XVJ-000 and cost $116 straight from any online Honda dealer.



Mugen also has a carbon fiber knob with either a black or red stripe around it ($100+ on ebay):



Honda also sells a yellow 6MT knob & boot for the S2000 CR 54102-S2A-C00 $53 at the dealer:



....and a red one from the JDM Civic Type R 54102-SMT-E01 ($78+ on ebay)

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S2000 Titanium knob: 08U92-S2A-100 $112



Original TL Shift knob 54102-SEP-A01ZA $69:
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Since we are showing knob options, I think this is one of the best - It's nearly impossible to find something like this aftermarket -leather wrapped metal ball....

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I just ordered it. Can't wait for it to arrive. I had the Civic Type-R knob and a solid metal knob is unbearable in the summer here in SC. I've had a metal shift knob in every car I've owned and none are touchable in the afternoon heat. I'd either have to shift quick or use a glove. This leather wrapped one should prevent that!
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The fuck did I just read?!?!?
lmao my day has been made. OP at least you have it all figured out now, a picture of the shift knob would be great
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LMAO-thought this was a troll thread at first.
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Maybe the previous owner lives somewhere with really hot weather such that the metal shift knob burned his hand and he needed something different.
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http://estore.honda.com/acura/parts/...your-acura.asp

Do the right thing:

order an OEM shift knob, color matched to your car.
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http://estore.honda.com/acura/parts/...your-acura.asp

Do the right thing:

order an OEM shift knob, color matched to your car.
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What a discovery! This has made my day
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Well, it turned out better than I thought. I thought it was going to be an auto with a manual shift knob and the owner thought it was a dual clutch or other automated manual lol.

I guess I would be happy to find another gear although I think I would have gone for 6th on the first day of ownership. I had a POS 87 Celica bought for $200 just for commuting 210 miles a day. It tached 4,000-4,500rpm in the 60-75mph range I used to drive it at in top (5th) gear. More than once I reached down to shift it into the nonexistent 6th gear out of instinct because the rpms were so high.

That same car got stuck in 5th gear when I was 90 miles out of town and I had to drive it home with it in 5th the whole way including stopping at 4 or 5 red lights. That was fun.
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Originally Posted by JTS97Z28
Wtf. So being at 4000rpm on the highway never raised any questions? Haha how does your car have a shift knob that only shows 5 gears?!? Man, people do funny things to used cars.
Hey now! My S2000 does 4000 rpms on the highway in 6th
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Any car will do 4000rpm on any road in top gear. It all depends on what speed you're going.

My civic does 4000rpm in 5th at 73mph. It has a relatively short 150mph transmission though (8400rpm in 5th).

The 3G TL has a 203mph transmission (6800rpm in 6th). If you were on the highway in 5th at 70mph, you would only be turning 2800rpm. To hit 4k in 5th, you would be doing 97mph.

Gear calculators are fun.
- Here's the 3G TL 6MT: http://www.teammfactory.com/gearcalc...=0&trannytype=
- Here is a comparison of my Civic (blue) along side my TL (red): http://www.teammfactory.com/gearcalc...ission+1+%26+2

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Old 05-21-2014, 11:12 PM
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And for fun here is a comparison of the TL 6MT (red) vs the 5AT (blue): http://www.teammfactory.com/gearcalc...ission+1+%26+2
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Hey chev0131, you have to post a picture of the offending knob.

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chev0131 post a pic of the knob already.
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Originally Posted by 94eg!
The 3G TL has a 203mph transmission (6800rpm in 6th). If you were on the highway in 5th at 70mph, you would only be turning 2800rpm. To hit 4k in 5th, you would be doing 97mph.
My car is at approx 2k rpm at 69mph, I can guarantee that. This is true for pretty much every other TL I've seen. Automatic of course. If you're talking about 6mt then I have no idea


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