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Old 03-16-2019, 11:03 PM
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105k service advice

Hey all, long time no see.

I am a hair away from clocking over 200k on my 06 TL, and I figure I should think about the future for my car here.

I plan to drive this car until it dies. More specifically, I'm planning on driving this car until the original automatic transmission dies.

But for now, I'm looking towards the next 105k service. (I know I'm not at 210k miles yet but my tensioner has been chattering for a bit now)

I was looking at these OEM parts off an ebay package for just under $300.

Timing Belt
Honda / 14400-RCA-A01
Idler Roller / Pulley
koyo / 14550-RCA-A01
Tensioner Roller / Pulley
koyo / 14510-RCA-A01
Water Pump & Gasket
Honda / 19200-RDV-J01
Hydraulic Tensioner
Honda / 14520-RCA-A01
Front Camshaft Seals x 2
Honda / 91213-R70-A02 /91213-RKG-003
Front Crankshaft Seal
Honda / 91212-R70-A02 /91212-5MR-A01
Serpentine Drive Belt
MITSUBSHI / HONDA /38920-RCA-A03 /56992-R70-A01 / 56992-RV0-A05/38920-RCA-A01


My local Acura dealer confirmed that if I had these parts in hand, they would quote labor at $500. Which I thought was pretty good, until the guy that quoted me that price said that they typically don't replace the pulleys and seals, and that would not be included. I thought this was a bit strange, but whatever.

Is it worth doing pulleys and seals at a car over 200k? Is a $500 labor quote too high for the belts, water pump, and tensioner? Should I look elsewhere?

Thanks for any input.
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When I got my timing belt service completed on my previous TL, I did all of the parts you listed, including the pulleys and seals, plus new fluids and spark plugs.
If you want to keep the car running at optimum levels, I would advise to get these things replaced as well. I bought my kit off ebay, it was 399 at the time and all parts were OEM.

Since you have an 06 model, your transmission is more susceptible to failing, or known to fail more than the 07-08 models. I would advise to have oil changes done more frequently in order to prolong the car's life. Not sure if yours is an auto or manual..... manual's will be more reliable in your model year.

In terms of labor costs, I think 500 is a good price considering the amount of work involved. However, it doesn't make sense to me as to why they wouldn't do the pulleys and seals while they are in there......
When I got my current type-s, the previous owner before me had gotten the 105k service completed at a dealer just days before I took delivery. I also noticed that the dealer hadn't done pulleys and seals during the servicing, when I asked a family member why, he said that they hardly ever replace those components......

I just left it at that, I'm hoping my pulleys and seals last until its time for the next 105k service.
Hope this helps.
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How much are the parts and why not just get an Aisin kit?
https://www.amazon.com/Aisin-TKH-002-Engine-Timing-Water/dp/B008EEYTRE/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=2006+tl+aisin+timing+belt+kit&qid=1552837397&replacementKeywords=aisin+timing+belt+kit&s=gateway&sr=8-3&vehicle=2006-58-749------------&vehicleName=2006+Acura+TL https://www.amazon.com/Aisin-TKH-002-Engine-Timing-Water/dp/B008EEYTRE/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=2006+tl+aisin+timing+belt+kit&qid=1552837397&replacementKeywords=aisin+timing+belt+kit&s=gateway&sr=8-3&vehicle=2006-58-749------------&vehicleName=2006+Acura+TL

Looks good, the only thing to add would be oil pump reseal, if it's leaking. I think everything is held by silicon, so there is no additional parts required, just labor.
But then with those miles and transmission, you can skip this one.

And finally, some independent places quote ~$700 range for the whole job including parts (labor + Aisin kit from Amazon or rockauto or whatever).
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5 hours of labor, that not bad at all consider its a dealer. Becareful how you present your parts, if you know the dealer very well they most likely take OEM supplier parts meanwhile if you are total stranger dealer they will flat out reject your parts (they only accept parts that has honda tag aka OEM).
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The quote for labor isn't bad. I had gotten everything you listed done, including the pulleys and seals at an independent shop for $450, which I thought was a steal. Everyone seems to think that Honda/Acura dealers are the best...but to me, it all really depends on how much you can trust your mechanic and the work he does. Get the kit that Peter6 listed from Amazon. I used the same kit for my service. Its a great deal and the parts are same as OEM. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by mhtut83 View Post
The quote for labor isn't bad. I had gotten everything you listed done, including the pulleys and seals at an independent shop for $450, which I thought was a steal. Everyone seems to think that Honda/Acura dealers are the best...but to me, it all really depends on how much you can trust your mechanic and the work he does. Get the kit that Peter6 listed from Amazon. I used the same kit for my service. Its a great deal and the parts are same as OEM. Good luck!
What is all included in the kit, and what else should I buy that this kit does not include? My car is at 108k and starting to emit screeching/rattle/chirping noises.
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What is all included in the kit, and what else should I buy that this kit does not include? My car is at 108k and starting to emit screeching/rattle/chirping noises.
If you get the Honda kit, I think the only extra thing you might want to consider is whatever is necessary to reseal the oil pump. If you get the Aisin kit, then you should consider a front main oil seal and the two cam seals (and of course the aforementioned oil pump).
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Thanks for all of the great info here, I appreciate the answers. It looks like that I'll simply be replacing the belts, water pump, tensioner, and bearings with that Asin kit suggested by a few of you above. However, I don't see a serpentine belt mentioned in the Asin kit - though the original package I was looking at has a serp belt included. Is this a standard part I can simply find elsewhere?
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you can use any belt but I just to happen to use OEM belt.
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Aisin kit TKH002 and Bando 6PK2135 serpentine belt from rockauto. End of story..........
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Aisin kit TKH002 and Bando 6PK2135 serpentine belt from rockauto. End of story..........
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And check in with your local Honda dealer to see if you can save some $$ vs. your Acura dealer.
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I did the AISIN kit this time around with the gates accessory kit from rockauto with coupon, way cheaper than amazon and ebay.
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If you get the Honda kit, I think the only extra thing you might want to consider is whatever is necessary to reseal the oil pump. If you get the Aisin kit, then you should consider a front main oil seal and the two cam seals (and of course the aforementioned oil pump).
So if I go with the Aisin kit, I'd only need the seals. I'd have to buy the serpentine belt and the oil pump. I have a serpentine already, just need the part number for the oil pump. These would pretty much cover the 105k service?
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So if I go with the Aisin kit, I'd only need the seals. I'd have to buy the serpentine belt and the oil pump. I have a serpentine already, just need the part number for the oil pump. These would pretty much cover the 105k service?
No need to buy an oil pump, just have it resealed; otherwise, yes.
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