neuronbob

^^^
Au contraire, my friend. You can program Trip A to reset automatically with each fuel-up.

"Current drive" is really current drive and resets every time you restart the car. What's on the dash (first picture) is the same as Trip A, which in the second screen you select by moving the jogwheel to the right.

pcloadletter

Makes sense, I was idling for a few minutes before resetting the trip computer, hence the same distance.

Been resetting on each trip, my 37 mile commute started with 28.6 and has risen since.

getakey

"Au contraire, my friend. You can program Trip A to reset automatically with each fuel-up."

well ok that too, but "you" program it to do that

ptbarnett

You can also program one of the trip counters to reset every time you start the car.

I let A reset when I fill the tank. B resets every time I start the car.

sri_gondi

I have a daily commute of close to 100 miles. 40% stop and go and 60% of it is more on mid 70's . I get a remarkable mileage of close to 31 MPG both combined. I used to drive Passat TDI which is like 40 MPG give or take but, the mileage i get on my RLX is not comparable to the amazing ride quality i get with my black beauty.

RLX-Sport Hybrid

Right back at ya! I drove a friend of mine to the airport this morning and we got 38.9 mpg for the trip in mixed driving. What is interesting is the drive home which was identical in every way I got 34.7 mpg. The difference I think is that my home is about 700 ft above sea level and JFK is basically at sea level, so it was slightly down hill going and slightly uphill on the return. Other than that, I can figure out what the difference was. My friend was astonished by the ride, the power delivery and the mpg. Then I turned on the sound system and he was hooked. That is when he said "this is an Acura?" We are very fortunate people to be able to enjoy this car. Have a good day my friend!

George Knighton

19,000

31.1

Don't hate me. :-)

neuronbob

pcloadletter

10 mile trip, reset on the hwy, cruise set at 65, 42 mpg.

Last week, 37.8 mpg on a 6 mile trip in town, 50% ev.

neuronbob

My current Fuelly:



The last tank, the car calculated at 28.1 mpg, which is a record in my ownership. (Fuelly disagrees and says it was 27.3 mpg ) It was the full first tank completed after my first oil change. Adding this as a data point.

My record mileage on a single commute was 34.2 mpg driving to downtown Cleveland from home, during morning rush hour. Very happy with that.

I haven't changed my driving style, though I do try to be aware of how much pure electric cruising I'm doing in the city. This alone drives mileage up. Otherwise, I drive it like I drive my V--that is, I enjoy the power.

George Knighton

<p>19,600</p><p>I'm going to wait for 20,000 to see if it holds, but it's looking pretty damned good. &nbsp;Better than I've been able to report before.</p><p>Summer blend? &nbsp;Shell 93? &nbsp;I dunno. &nbsp;My driving hasn't changed!</p>

RLX-Sport Hybrid

I use Shell 93 religiously and up until my accident I was consistently seeing 31.5 -33+ mpg for a tank full. Individual local trips were in the upper 30's to the mid 40's. I can't wait to feel well enough to get behind the wheel again.

neuronbob

Mid-40's? O_o No way.

RLX-Sport Hybrid

I know you have been getting smaller mpg numbers than many of us, but I think that may be your right foot talking more than the car. I have posted on this thread somewhere of my getting mid 40's for about a 10 mile trip on local roads and not driving like a Hoonigan. I guess you were kidding around?

fsmith

Yeah, but that was 10.1 miles all downhill. How about the uphill return trip?

And what's with the previous trip at 142 mpg?

RLX-Sport Hybrid

If my memory serves me I got around 42 mpg on the return trip, but it was a while ago so I may be slightly off. The 142 mpg was almost an all ev run (90%) home from the grocery store 3 miles away, and yes it was more down hill than uphill. That is not unusual for that trip. Usually I get into the 50's, but it is such a small trip I don't really count that.

neuronbob

Affirmative.

George Knighton

<p>The past few posts indicate the secret that some of us can take advantage of, although it's mostly accidental.</p><p>He was 50% EV Mode at his 40-plus trip, and it was a short trip.</p><p>I think that my secret to averaging 31 or better for 20,000 miles is that my commuting takes me over quite a few secondary roads. &nbsp;The speed limit is 45, and they'll spot you to 55, and it is usually an ideal environment to use ACC _ LKAS and have the car handle its own affairs.</p><p>I'll be about 30% EV Mode on many trips, and I think that's the secret. &nbsp;We're able to maximize the car's EV Mode strengths, even though you might be able to tell from our posts elsewhere that we hardly baby the cars and make frequent use of the performance potential.</p><p>You might remember my trip from DC-Orlando and back, a few months ago. &nbsp;The car did great and returned Sterling MPG, but perhaps not as good as you might have expected. &nbsp;Long high speed trips on the Interstate system won't give you maximum efficiency (meaning the maximum this particular car can get).</p><p>It's true your transmission is quicker and more efficient than the regular automatic on the P-AWS car, but it's hampered by the extra weight of the Sport Hybrid. &nbsp;So you're not that much better than a P-AWS car when you're on the Interstate at high speeds for prolonged periods.</p><p>You're aided incrementally when the rear motors cut on to vector you on curves and ramps, and when you're passing cars. &nbsp;But it's &quot;incremental&quot; and not evocative of a huge improvement in highway MPG compared to the P-AWS car.</p><p>At least, that's my story. &nbsp;:-) &nbsp;And I'm sticking to it.</p>

TampaRLX-SH

Although I am only half way into my second tank of fuel with this car, I agree with most all stated in this thread.

However one factor determined by your driving habits is how much you drain and recharge the batteries. If you do short < 50mph runs, you can optimize the EV efficiency for that run. However, runs like that do not offer enough > 50mph run time that charges up the battery pack quickly.

Example of a 4 mile run to my local market on < 45mph roads.

A) If the batteries are charged from the start. Most of the run will be EV with excellent mpg. At the end of the run the batteries are typically < 1/4 'full'.

B) The return trip from 'A' requires more ICE engine use as the batteries are low already. Being a < 45mph run, the ICE is on and off consuming the power it is generaterating keeping the charge level mid range from 'full'. The result when ending the route, the batteries are < 1/2 'full'....impacting how much EV time I will get on next run.

But if you have stretches of >50mph in your run, the batteries will charge up faster and build up 'reserve' for your next run permitting more EV drive time.

Another point I would like to make, is that most all careful launches from a stop will still ignite the ICE, only yards from the stop on most >45mph roads - impacting the efficiency. Learning to feather the throttle launch is an acquired skill but seems futile in most normal traffic pace. I have surrendered trying to stay on EV in traffic stop and go, but succeed more in parking lots and leaving my sub-division. What I do is moderately launch the car, and when desired speed is achieved, then I back off the throttle to shut down the ICE and maximize the EV ride. Depending on the charge state of the batteries will determine how much EV ride I get.

It would be nice if the batteries held power a little longer. But they do charge relatively quickly and with AC, Stereo, Cooled Seats all on max, I cannot complain. I know this hybrid system is really designed to lessen efficiency penalty from the great power and enhance the power and the amazingly dynamic SHAWD system of this car.

With this car in particular, depending on your driving style and types of commutes / runs you make with it, as well as temperature variations,,,,more than ever.... YMMV.

RLX-Sport Hybrid

George and Tampa,

I think you are both correct. More or less we are all saying the same thing. When I could drive it previously.... I have learned how to maximize efficient driving which is fun in its own way, however thrust enjoyment is just a tip of the toe away from you at anytime which is fun in a different way. It is quite the blessing that we can afford such cars. Very special I must say.

My wife drove the SH this morning to the grocery store and that trip returned 26.8 mpg (so she told me) when I can get as much as double that just based on how I can drive the same car on the same road in the same conditions. She is not proficient in knowing how to "manage the throttle" like I can so her efficiency is much less than I can get. That is what I am trying to communicate. Until a SH owner gets a lot of seat time in the car and can learn how to access the various methodologies for throttle input, mpg will vary significantly between users. The mix of highway and local, hills and flat roads, stop and go traffic, and heat/AC/electrical usage all affect the overall car's mpg returns. The variability of those returns is another thing that makes the car so unique.

fsmith

I agree with George about the best conditions for good SH-AWD mileage. I have been commuting all summer between MA and ME, and I have been routinely getting 33-34 mpg on two-lane country roads going 40-50 mph, where I can get onto EV frequently. As soon as I get on the highway, my mileage drops to 30-31 mpg.

George Knighton

Well.

Over 20 grand, now.

31.3 MPG lifetime.

:runs for cover:

RLX-Sport Hybrid

30.3 mpg @ 15,000

George Knighton

I'm glad somebody else is managing over 30 for a lifetime average.

Makes me seem a lot less like an old man.

:-)

pcloadletter

Is this your calculation? Can this info be accessed in a menu? I believe the Volt keeps this info, but have not found it in the RLX.

George Knighton

If you've reset both meters, then you'll have to do it yourself.

I keep my B meter set to the lifetime mileage.

I used to check manually every once in a while using the A meter, but it was always spot on so I stopped checking and just let the car tell me.

So....

If your B meter is set to lifetime, then all you have to do is scroll your MID to where it shows mileage and then hit the Trip button until the B meter is what is showing.

That's what I do, anyway, although there's certainly any other way you want to imagine to do it. :-)

George Knighton

22,000 miles now

31.3 mpg seems to be where it's going to stay.

George Knighton

It might get shot to hell the next two weeks or so.

The firm are taking their usual sabbatical/retreat at Massanutten, and a former racing champion has volunteered to drive over the mountains.

I'll probably get dizzy. And that'll probably be the end of the good fuel economy.

neuronbob

^^^
At least it'll be fun. Enjoy the trip!

pac1999

slowly getting better mpg here as I play with letting the ACC do the driving and letting the car go into EV mode. The problem is my lead foot keeps taking over. I have noticed I get around 31 on the way downhill to work near the port at 5am. Quite a bit less in afternoon LA traffic going back uphill. My last four tanks are below.
272 miles 26.7 mpg
290 miles 25.2 mpg
201 miles 24.7 mpg
216 miles 25.4 mpg

RLX-Sport Hybrid

Keeping your foot out of it is hard to do, but if you can restrain yourself you should be able to achieve high 20's to 31 mpg for most tanks in the warmth. Since it is starting to cool off around my area, my mpg are starting to tail off from their highs and my driving style is not any different. Once the heat kicks in, you start utilizing EV mode less and the mpg starts to drop slightly. On a trip I typically see 38-39 mpg very predictably, now I am getting 36 mpg. As it gets colder I expect that number to drop further, not that anyone has a right to complain about that kind of mpg for a sled like this.

My overall mpg at 15,600 miles is at 30.2 mpg now. With the drop in gas prices and better mpg with the Blackbird, my fuel costs are about $130 less per month than they were with my previous TL-SHAWD. As you learn how to drive this car which takes some time, you learn how to finesse better mpg in the same trip without sacrificing significant levels of performance. I have found that a quicker start from stop to get to 40 mph on an average side road and then use as much EV mode as possible will jackrabbit your mpg results. What a brilliant driving experience the SH is. Truly a privilege.

neuronbob

Still getting 33-34 mpg on my trips to downtown Cleveland, and 27 mpg on the way back. The only difference I can come up with is that I live at 1100 feet and downtown Cleveland is at 800 feet, and it's mostly downhill into the city from where I live. Conversely, uphill is opposite.

Short trips when you don't get to charge the battery (i.e. City block driving, which I also do a fair amount of), kills the mileage except if you drive live the stereotypical granny. The car has enough torque to want to constantly put your foot in it, though, so it takes discipline to get 28 mpg, the city mileage. Never done it, myself.

RLX-SH is correct in that you do have to really finesse the car to get anywhere close to advertised mileage, especially in city driving. It's an art to master this car.

George Knighton

Humph.

RLX-Sport Hybrid

A couple of observations as it is getting cooler. On a 9.7 mile trip I make very often, I typically see that trip return 39.2-41.1 mpg in the warmer weather. I made the same trip three times between yesterday and today when it was near or below freezing and the car was already warmed up. I was using the seat warmer on high and the inside temp was set to 70 degrees. The trips were as follows: 29.3, 31.9 and 31.2 mpg. Also the EV mode normally would be about 50% of the trip. All three of these trips in the cold were averaging around 30% in EV mode. I believe it is because of the heat requirements which causes the ICE to run more often. Does that sound right to all of you?

neuronbob

Yes.

Malibu Flyer

That is certainly part of the reason but also the batteries are not as efficient in cold weather. Keep in mind that in the summer on a hot day that the AC also takes a fair amount of juice which causes the ICE to run. I would guess that think the seat heater drains the battery more than the heater.

RLX-Sport Hybrid

My wife drove the Blackbird for two more days while I was traveling and her mpg was 28.9 in mixed driving. I drove about 70 miles today and got 33.8 mpg in similar driving, so driving style is important to its efficiency. My rental car was a Dodge Challenger. What a POS that was. Very disappointing that Dodge can't build a better automobile.

RLX-Sport Hybrid

Traveled 47.2 miles, 22.8 miles on EV only, 35.1 mpg in normal mixed driving today. (eco mode)

George Knighton

A companion's son was fooling around in my car and reset the B meter, so I doubt I'll be updating my "lifetime" averages.

The last time I checked, at 23500 miles it was still at 31.3.

Letting the Honda Challenge champion zoom up and down the Blue Ridge didn't make a big difference in the lifetime. If I'd looked at the A meter, I might've been horrified, but the B meter stayed at 31.3 since those zoomy miles didn't affect the average that much.

I'm sure my daily average mileage will go down now that the weather's colder, but I've already been through one winter in Virginia. I bought the car at the end of 10/14 and now it's 11/15 with the average 31.3, so I think that's just about it.

RLX-Sport Hybrid

That can be frustrating. Sorry.

I am still at 30.2 mpg for the lifetime number and I am at around 18k approximately now.