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Honda Division sales up 1.2 percent for first four months of 2017
CR-V posts fifth straight record month, up 26.6 percent for the year
HR-V sets new April record, up 25.5 percent for the year
Civic and Accord sales remain strong with retail customers
Acura TLX sales jump 39.1 percent in April
TORRANCE, Calif. – American Honda Motor Co., Inc. today reported April sales of 138,386 Honda and Acura vehicles, a decrease of 7.0 percent from year-ago results. The Honda Division saw a decrease of 6.3 percent on sales of 124,254 vehicles, while Honda trucks were up year-over-year, posting a 1.2 percent gain on sales of 61,114 units. Acura Division sales of 14,132 cars and SUVs were up from last month and were led by the TLX sedan with a 39.1 percent jump in April versus year-ago results.
Honda With strong truck sales and sustained, steady demand for cars continuing in April, Honda Division sales grew 1.2 percent for the first four months of 2017. The Honda CR-V and HR-V continued their record-setting ways, both posting record April sales, as the Ridgeline pickup also posted solid April results of 3,186 units, and Pilot continued to experience strong demand in the face of constrained supplies.Despite the market shift toward SUVs, Honda saw continued strong retail demand for cars, with Fit recording sales of 4,871 units, Accord posting sales of 26,938 units, and Civic again topping the 31,000 mark, with virtually all sales coming from individual, retail car buyers.
Honda trucks had a best-ever April, gaining 1.2 percent on sales of 61,114 units
CR-V led truck gains with an April record of 32,671 vehicles, up 13 percent
HR-V set a new April record, rising 22.4 percent on sales of 8,527
Ridgeline sales surpassed 3,100 units in April
With another strong sales month of 31,211 units, Civic was easily the best-selling passenger car in America on a retail basis for the first four months of 2017
Clarity Fuel Cell posted 34 sales for the month, pushing total deliveries to 126 units
"While there seems no end in sight to consumers' love affair with trucks and SUVs, we continue to keep a focus on passenger cars to maintain a balanced sales mix in the retail marketplace," said Jeff Conrad, senior vice president of the American Honda Automobile Division. "Our efforts to build more Honda light trucks at our plants in North America are paying dividends with sales records for both CR-V and HR-V."
Acura Acura division sales of 14,132 units were led by TLX, which posted its best month since October 2015 on sales of 5,258 units, up 39.1 percent from last April, following a strong first-quarter marketing campaign. Next month TLX will receive an additional boost with the launch of the significantly redesigned 2018 model, with three distinct variants including a new V6-powered A-Spec model, adding aggressive new styling to the performance luxury sedan.
TLX recorded its best-ever April and 2nd best month ever on sales of 5,258 units, up 39.1 percent over last year
Acura light truck sales remained strong with MDX and RDX combining for sales of over 7,845 units, with the launch of the new 2017 MDX Sport Hybrid expected to boost sales in the months ahead.
"We're seeing our new marketing efforts resonate with buyers with TLX posting strong sales in a tough segment," said Jon Ikeda, vice president & general manager of Acura. "With the new 2018 TLX launching next month, including the all-new A-Spec model, we look forward to broadening our appeal with performance-focused buyers."
57 MDX hybrids and 91 NSX sold? I didn't even think MDX was available yet... Impressive or sad depending on what lens you view it through. Personally I like driving the most "exclusive" Acura ever made (well, you know once MDX and NSX pass the RLX SH in a few months...)
I am glad you have a positive attitude towards things.
There are different ways to have the most exclusive Acura or cars on the road, you can get the cars that others can't afford or you can get the cars that others don't want.
My local Acura dealer has a new NSX in the showroom. Someone ordered it with a $25,000 deposit, then cancelled the order after it was manufactured. Walked away from the deposit ! List price $200,000.
I am glad you have a positive attitude towards things.
There are different ways to have the most exclusive Acura or cars on the road, you can get the cars that others can't afford or you can get the cars that others don't want.
My local Acura dealer has a new NSX in the showroom. Someone ordered it with a $25,000 deposit, then cancelled the order after it was manufactured. Walked away from the deposit ! List price $200,000.
He couldn't have walked away from the price of an Accord in deposit. I mean, wow.
I thought that's what the salesman implied. I will ask again next time I am there. ( I don't get there very often anymore now that PAWS is gone ! ) I also noticed that Ebay has a few NSXs. Big gamble trying to flip them so soon.
He couldn't have walked away from the price of an Accord in deposit. I mean, wow.
I doubt that a dealership would have held onto someone's 25 grand.
Too big a chance of a news story, and it's not the system's natural inclination to take money for nothing.
You know they're going to be able to sell the car. It won't be a problem. A deposit is just a way to be more sure that they're not wasting time and effort configuring a vehicle to your specifications.
I doubt that a dealership would have held onto someone's 25 grand.
Too big a chance of a news story, and it's not the system's natural inclination to take money for nothing.
You know they're going to be able to sell the car. It won't be a problem. A deposit is just a way to be more sure that they're not wasting time and effort configuring a vehicle to your specifications.
This. They're going to sell the car and car dealerships are to some extent like airlines. Customers tend to mistrust them and dislike them. This type of thing would blow up.
One of our local has two NSX's under covers and one of the individuals passed away, the other dealer has a sale sign on their NSX $175, 000.00.
I just cant see myself trying to squeeze in or out of it.....
16 hybrids. I was almost a buyer, if not for price....
RLX overall is down 23% from last year. Here's hoping the MMC comes soon, and is as much a bang-up job as the TLX! Given all the work that went into the TLX makeover, there is hope that the RLX MMC will be as good. Let's get to it, Acura!
Forgot to mention in my post above--163 MDX hybrids!!!!! Whoa.....More MDX SH in June alone, than RLX SHs the entire year to date for the last two years. Acura has a hit on its hands, it appears. It appears the primary fix for the RLX SH is to put the hybrid system in an SUV. I suppose it matches consumer demand for SUVs. Sigh....
We were 1 of those 163 MDX hybrids as well. Every dealership in my area now has a couple of the MDX Sport Hybrids. None have an RLX Sport Hybrid and only had 1 @ most. I ponder if they will up the production for the MMC?
This story is about the sales of Tesla vehicles vs. other large luxury sedans in the first half of 2017. But look at the comparison chart showing the Tesla Model S (only) outselling the Acura RLX by a factor of 25, with all the competitors bracketed!
^^^ I would guess that in ten years you may not be able to find an ICE. Of course, by then you may not be actually driving the car yourself anyway. Also, when the SH-AWD is running on EV only, I can still clearly feel its soul, even if I can't hear it!
I have no trouble with owning an electric car. The issue is that Tesla needs to clean up its quality control first.
At some point, somebody who knows either a lot about cars, or a lot about consumers, needs to team up with Tesla to get their interiors on the right path.
The early Model S was awful, and I can see how they've made very big improvements in the current Model S, but it's still lagging far behind other cars that cost up to around 125,000.
I understand where the money's gone, but the thing is that people expect a certain kind of build quality when you get up there to those prices.
By comparison, a Lexus LS460 seems like heaven. You're willing to stop at the gas station with the Lexus just to be more comfortable and have an overall better vehicle.
I'm afraid that to get the price point they wanted, it's not likely the Model 3's interior is going to be all that hot, either.
How come in the article the "top gasoline-powered large premium sedans" somehow includes the Audi A6 but leaves out the Mercedes E-Class and BMW 5 Series? Could it be that they both sell more than the Model S by a wide margin? No, no it couldn't be, must have been an oversight.
The Tesla S has always been measured against the MB S-Class and BMW 7 series in terms of market segment.
I once shopped the Tesla S against a Lexus LS460 and came away thinking the Lexus was the much better quality car and much better value, fuel economy notwithstanding.
:-)
But I hear that Model S quality has improved quite a bit since then.
Perhaps, but the SH is up 13.7% YTD over 2016. Still kinda cool that SH owners are driving an exclusive car that only 130 other people have bought in the entire US this year (and far far fewer in Canada).
Hell, even the Bugatti Chiron (at a price of $2.7M USD) sold 200 units before the first delivery of the car and I haven't seen one of those in my local grocery store parking lot either.
^ and the odds that the Chiron will appreciate in value over time are better than that of the RLX
Originally Posted by justnspace
sure it's exclusive...but it's also very forgettable...
the Chiron doesnt have that problem, you know you're looking at something special.
I was being facetious comparing the SH to a Chiron - clearly they are not comparators and for $2.7M - it damn well better be something special! I was attempting to make light of how rare the SH is and yes, it will depreciate like any other non-exotic vehicle on the road.
I would agree that its styling is somewhat forgettable (even though I actually like it) - that said, its driving dynamics are definitely not. I have yet to take one person for a drive in my car who hasn't brought up in subsequent conversations how much fun the car was to drive... I think that by definition is considered memorable.
^^^
I liked the exterior styling. Even so....the RLX was the "incognito" car in my fleet. Try driving a 1G NSX anyplace. It attracts a crowd even at the grocery store. The V wagon, less so, but it is still more eyecatching than the RLX was. RLX was a break from automotive attention.
To continue the rarity streak....the Sport Hybrid is also more rare than my 1 of 513 6MT CTS-V wagon. I suspect my wagon will be worth a little more money someday.
^^^
I liked the exterior styling. Even so....the RLX was the "incognito" car in my fleet. Try driving a 1G NSX anyplace. It attracts a crowd even at the grocery store. The V wagon, less so, but it is still more eyecatching than the RLX was. RLX was a break from automotive attention.
To continue the rarity streak....the Sport Hybrid is also more rare than my 1 of 513 6MT CTS-V wagon. I suspect my wagon will be worth a little more money someday.
I also had no problem with exterior styling. I do not like Lexus styling and BMW is always same o same o
Looks like they want to blow out the 2017 RLXs, what few there are extant. They are finally linking it with the NSX.
I like the shot with the HUD. I so miss my HUD. *snif*
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Yes, finally, this is the ad they should have run at the beginning of the model year!
I'm waiting for the 2018 MMC before jumping in.
And here is an idea for how to launch the MMC RLX-SH:
Rent track time at courses like AMP and bring a pair of NSXs and three or four RLX-SH's (on sticky high performance summer tires). Invite pre-qualified SH and NSX customers, sell ride tickets to tire kickers,
Once a prospective RLX-SH buyer gets a taste of the NSX (I have,with 9 laps at AMP and now have undying lust) and understand just what the SH drivetrain is all about, then get a a couple of laps driving the RLX-SH also getting a feel for just how much better handling and performance a SH drivetrain can provide in a 'luxury' sedan, most will sign the papers that day.
I mean, the RLX-SH is less than half the cost of an NSX, yet offers more than 2/3's the performance on track, and on the street, allows one to really use that performance, as it is as incognito a performance car as one could get.
Can't tell you how many Lambo's, Ferraris, etc. I see (I live close to AMP) and they are barely doing the speed limit. I can zoom along in my RL and even pass stopped cruisers and hardly worry.
For NSX prospects, getting to experience just how magical the SH drivetrain is in a sports sedan might lead to a purchase of one in addition to the NSX just to enjoy the sports-hybrid experience in something that is more low-key and can carry four plus luggage. My dream garage includes both.
So pushing the concept of the RLX-SH as a 'four-door stealth NSX' might make it more of a practical choice for those that aspire to an NSX, but whose real-world requirements limit their choices.
05-04-2017, 06:33 AM
April 2017
those that dont want. ZING!
Hybrids
