New NSX - do these numbers sound right?
#1
Three Wheelin'
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New NSX - do these numbers sound right?
So I am at the dealer this afternoon getting the first oil change for the MDX Sport Hybrid, and the black NSX I have been drooling over is just sitting there, calling to me. The manager leans up next to me and says he is willing to take a serious stab at it and take $25k off of the $205k price. On a lease with 7,500 miles per year on a 36 month term, it comes out to $2,200 per month with $11,500 down (+/-) for taxes and fees and a $105k residual. Now $2,200 per month is a lot better than $4,000 per month which is a total deal breaker in my house. However, my wife did not throw up when I broached the topic tonight over dinner, so it is a possibility here. My question is are these numbers sounding right or is there fine print I have not seen yet. This is loaded with every option and is black in color, includes the carbon fiber package, has black calipers, the track ready wheels, carbon ceramic rotors, and the tan interior inserts. The car is sexy as hell. BUT what am I missing here? I feel like there is a bate and switch potentially. Sounds too good to be true.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
#2
those numbers are spot on
#3
and make sure you do 5,000 miles a year. 20 cents a mile for 7,500 is gonna be less 1% of residual on that car.
#4
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I have to think about this seriously. Thank you for the feedback.
#6
Drifting
There's one at one of our local dealers advertised for about 30-35 K off MSRP. Good luck. Sweet car. (I have to get my kid out of college fast!)
#7
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So the latest offer is $30,000 + $11,200 off the sticker. Test drove one today. Simply an amazing piece of machinery. Giving this a very hard look.
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#11
Maybe 47-50k off Msrp offer to see which dealer is most desperate to make a sale ?
db11/huracan/r8 are all leasing in the 2200-2700 a month just FYI
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#12
The numbers sound reasonable. What's the cost per mile if you exceed the 7500/year?
I'm not sure how to justify a car with $47k in options.
I'm not sure how to justify a car with $47k in options.
#13
This thread says 50-55K off on the 205K MSRP cars. Someone even got 60K off. The base cars are getting 35-35K off.
https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/acura...ounts/22834/79
https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/acura...ounts/22834/79
#14
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I did not ask. I'll look on the quote to see if it states that. Very exciting to even consider this. Right now I'm 50-50 on taking the leap.
#15
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This thread says 50-55K off on the 205K MSRP cars. Someone even got 60K off. The base cars are getting 35-35K off.
https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/acura...ounts/22834/79
https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/acura...ounts/22834/79
#16
After seeing the thread above and reading through it on NSX prime, $45K on a 205K car isn't a deal at all. I would keep shopping.
#17
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One of the largest local franchise dealer principles lives on my block. He's 70 years old, and his dad bought the dealerships, he has increased the amount of brands they are carrying. He tells me (when I was looking at RCF/GSF which are almost 17-20K off), that they weren't making money on individual units only necessarily. But selling certain amount of cars at certain times, factory gave them lots of bonus etc, which made up for any "loss" they incurred.
After seeing the thread above and reading through it on NSX prime, $45K on a 205K car isn't a deal at all. I would keep shopping.
After seeing the thread above and reading through it on NSX prime, $45K on a 205K car isn't a deal at all. I would keep shopping.
#18
Lots of car purchases happen when not shopping. A member here in Charlotte (CLtotheTL32 - moderator) and me were talking, and on a whim I bought a new convertible from Cape Cod for my wife's upcoming birthday. Working on shipping it now. I need another car, like I need a post on the forum. I am sure the NSX is similar for you
Good luck.
#19
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So I got a call on one just now. Here are the details:
Navigation, Carbon Ceramic Rotors, Red Calipers, White outside and red inside color combo, no Carbon Fiber Package, works out to $176k before discounts, and after $42,500 off, it works out to $1,574 per month for 36 months on a 7,500 mile per year contract, and $7,600 down. I drove this one today. Paint looks fantastic with the mother of pearl in it. It looks light grey indoors, and a beautiful white in the sunlight. Also it has black wheels. Very tempting....
Navigation, Carbon Ceramic Rotors, Red Calipers, White outside and red inside color combo, no Carbon Fiber Package, works out to $176k before discounts, and after $42,500 off, it works out to $1,574 per month for 36 months on a 7,500 mile per year contract, and $7,600 down. I drove this one today. Paint looks fantastic with the mother of pearl in it. It looks light grey indoors, and a beautiful white in the sunlight. Also it has black wheels. Very tempting....
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#20
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Holy shit. That's cheap as fuck.
at $1600 a month, I'm now considering one. Could likely swing it in a year or two.
at $1600 a month, I'm now considering one. Could likely swing it in a year or two.
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#21
So I got a call on one just now. Here are the details:
Navigation, Carbon Ceramic Rotors, Red Calipers, White outside and red inside color combo, no Carbon Fiber Package, works out to $176k before discounts, and after $42,500 off, it works out to $1,574 per month for 36 months on a 7,500 mile per year contract, and $7,600 down. I drove this one today. Paint looks fantastic with the mother of pearl in it. It looks light grey indoors, and a beautiful white in the sunlight. Also it has black wheels. Very tempting....
Navigation, Carbon Ceramic Rotors, Red Calipers, White outside and red inside color combo, no Carbon Fiber Package, works out to $176k before discounts, and after $42,500 off, it works out to $1,574 per month for 36 months on a 7,500 mile per year contract, and $7,600 down. I drove this one today. Paint looks fantastic with the mother of pearl in it. It looks light grey indoors, and a beautiful white in the sunlight. Also it has black wheels. Very tempting....
Ask for 50K off MSRP off the 176, and pull the trigger.
#22
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So typically I drive around 19,000 miles per year on average on the RLX hybrid and we are pacing about the same on the MDX hybrid. I think that 7,500 miles makes sense as this would not be driven in the winter and most likely a sunny day car most of the time.
#24
Drifting
Of course, we're all encouraging you to spend YOUR money to get one, so we can live our dreams vicariously through you. Just so you know. But boy, 42K+ off, and the price starts to sound less "I'll never do that."
#25
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I'm really thinking about doing this. Again I was not looking to do this at all before a few days ago. This isn't a logical decision. If I put my big boy smart hat on, this is stupid. But then there is the teenager in me that says, go do it! High class things to consider. It isn't an affordability issue. $1,600 per month is meaningless in our world. It is really about getting past my own vanity and whether I'm comfortable with it. Right now I'm not.......yet.
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So I got a call on one just now. Here are the details:
Navigation, Carbon Ceramic Rotors, Red Calipers, White outside and red inside color combo, no Carbon Fiber Package, works out to $176k before discounts, and after $42,500 off, it works out to $1,574 per month for 36 months on a 7,500 mile per year contract, and $7,600 down. I drove this one today. Paint looks fantastic with the mother of pearl in it. It looks light grey indoors, and a beautiful white in the sunlight. Also it has black wheels. Very tempting....
Navigation, Carbon Ceramic Rotors, Red Calipers, White outside and red inside color combo, no Carbon Fiber Package, works out to $176k before discounts, and after $42,500 off, it works out to $1,574 per month for 36 months on a 7,500 mile per year contract, and $7,600 down. I drove this one today. Paint looks fantastic with the mother of pearl in it. It looks light grey indoors, and a beautiful white in the sunlight. Also it has black wheels. Very tempting....
And on another note....if cars in this price range is clearly financially feasible, have you considered other competitors in this segment like the 911 Turbo or R8 or a McLaren?
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#27
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Wow insane deal. At the rate these discounts are going.....there'll be a point where you'd be an idiot to NOT take a new NSX at that price (even if its just a lease). Amount of car/$ is incredible.
Damn. Congrats on doing well in life where that is a drop in the bucket. I'm curious as though what specific issues would make you uncomfortable owning the new NSX?
Damn. Congrats on doing well in life where that is a drop in the bucket. I'm curious as though what specific issues would make you uncomfortable owning the new NSX?
#28
Market isn’t that surprising
For those old enough to remember in 03-05 they couldn’t give nsx away. If you go back and search through prime there were advertised 600-700$ monthly lease deals
of course that was end of nsx production and this is opposite timing wise
that said, market knows best and always corrects
good luck OP
For those old enough to remember in 03-05 they couldn’t give nsx away. If you go back and search through prime there were advertised 600-700$ monthly lease deals
of course that was end of nsx production and this is opposite timing wise
that said, market knows best and always corrects
good luck OP
#29
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It is a very enticing deal for sure. Like I said I think it is more of a vanity deal for me and just feeling comfortable pulling the trigger on this kind of luxury. We are doing just fine. My family is healthy, we have a successful business, and good heads on our shoulders. I just need to feel comfortable personally doing this kind of thing. Like I said it isn't an affordability issue. It is hard to explain. If I'm going to do this, I'm just going to pull the trigger and get it. But if I decide not to, there is always tomorrow. And yes my buddy told me that you only live once, so he thinks I should have it already. Like I said, these are high class problems. I'll make a decision soon. Who knows, they may come back at me with a larger discount to further encourage me to do it. I doubt it though as I think they put their best deal out already.
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Market isn’t that surprising
For those old enough to remember in 03-05 they couldn’t give nsx away. If you go back and search through prime there were advertised 600-700$ monthly lease deals
of course that was end of nsx production and this is opposite timing wise
that said, market knows best and always corrects
good luck OP
For those old enough to remember in 03-05 they couldn’t give nsx away. If you go back and search through prime there were advertised 600-700$ monthly lease deals
of course that was end of nsx production and this is opposite timing wise
that said, market knows best and always corrects
good luck OP
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#32
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So I have decided not to make this purchase at this time. Everything about the car is absolutely killer in every way but two things. The exhaust note and missing V8 American rumble is really what I want and the NSX just does not cut it. I spent the day today with a friend of mine with a Z06 and that killed it for me for the NSX. For less money I could buy the new ZR1 when it comes out next spring. If not, for even less than $100k a Z06 with all the trimmings could be acquired. For about $70k a Camaro ZL1 can provide the same thrill of speed and American hustle. While some may disagree, that is my decision. For the record my wife was all for the NSX. Besides buying anything like this going into the winter seems dumb. I would like to enjoy it for the spring/summer/fall for the first year, before it sits for the winter. I would basically not drive it for the first three/four months of ownership. Just does not make sense to me. If I lived in a southern climate, that would be different as there would be no salt on the roads, and no performance vehicle I will own will ever see any of that.
#33
Drifting
Makes sense, but we're all officially (and vicariously) bummed!
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#34
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Understand completely, but there will be another time where this makes more sense. I was not looking to make this purchase anytime close to now. Maybe I will revisit this in the spring.
#35
Three Wheelin'
You made the smart call, RLX-Sport Hybrid. If there is any doubt in your mind at all, waiting for a while is the right thing to do. We all let emotion dictate what we do from time to time, but you took a step back and made a logical decision based on your current wants and needs.
The NSX of your dreams is still out there waiting for you whenever you decide the time is right and are sure that the NSX is the perfect extravagance you want to splurge on.
Just my two cents.
The NSX of your dreams is still out there waiting for you whenever you decide the time is right and are sure that the NSX is the perfect extravagance you want to splurge on.
Just my two cents.
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In my mind, as cheap as I can be at times, you made the right decision. BUT, The exclusivity of the NSX would be the reason I would choose it over a Z06 or ZR1. Unless you are planning on taking it to the track and risk damage, speed limits do need to be obeyed 75% of the time, the other 25% for open, desolate roads. The NSX is one sexy ride. Certainly out of my league, but as a friend once told me, "...you can live in your car, but can't drive your house."
#37
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You know the teenager in me just says "do it" and we are very fortunate to be able to very easily afford such a luxury, even if we were not planning for such a thing at the moment. Doing something like this has very little to do with logic and is about testosterone and a repetitive Dopamine drip in the frontal cortex. The NSX is a beautiful automobile no doubt, and there are many that one can buy that have equal appeal. Just yesterday while driving home, a beautiful black Aventador with a crazy double wing on the back drove past us. Simply a beautiful rolling piece of artwork. Amazing! I guess that was $400,000 or so and that sounds so outlandish that anyone could really afford such an extreme luxury, but there are lots of those kinds are cars with owners who own many of them at one time, around the New York area. From Long Island, to the city, to northern NJ, Greenwich CT, and Westchester, there is enormous wealth and prestige in the area, so the luxury car buyer has the choice to get anything they want here. It can torque your perspective on what one really "needs". Real estate is such that in the city buying a million dollar apartment equates to a 600 sq/ft nothing with no views or services. If you step up to the $3-5 million range you start to get "better" choices, but that still isn't rock star kind of stuff. All of that is in the $5 million and up range, and I mean up! One Fifty Seven (that tall concrete skinny building that goes up like a 1,000 feet and sticks out like a sore thumb near Central Park), had apartments that you would not believe cost what they do. Rupert Murdoch bought three apartments that were unfinished for $25 million each, held them for less than a year and then flipped them for cash buyers to the tune of $40 million or more each. None of us for all of our working years could create $75 million in after tax savings deposits to be able to make purchases like that, and then make the profits he made in those trades. It is things like that which make extreme luxury purchases in this area is almost viewed as normal in a way. It is similar in many parts of Los Angeles too. So I'm not saying this to defend my decision, but as a statement of fact about our modern society and the amazing gifts we all share by being citizens of this great nation, where we can make opportunities happen so that we can even consider buying an unnecessary luxury (intentional oxymoron) like the NSX or any hyper-car for that matter.
The deal I was considering is a great one and someone out there will get it, but it will not be me..........today. In the meantime, we can all gawk and admire other peoples' luxury but enjoy what we have now.
The deal I was considering is a great one and someone out there will get it, but it will not be me..........today. In the meantime, we can all gawk and admire other peoples' luxury but enjoy what we have now.
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#38
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And my morning coffee must not have been strong enough as I made grammatical errors galore in my previous post. oops.
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I have to agree with your decision. My spring, summer, and fall weekender is a '16 C7 Convertible in Long Beach Red. Amazing car that nicely compliments my '16 RLX Hybrid Advance in Pomegranite. There is no substitute for the sport exhaust of the V-8. Pure driving and aural pleasure all weekend long until it's back-to-reality Monday morning in the RLX. I am very blessed to be able to enjoy both rides. I just put it away for the long winter's slumber. Enjoy your ZR1 when it arrives.
So I have decided not to make this purchase at this time. Everything about the car is absolutely killer in every way but two things. The exhaust note and missing V8 American rumble is really what I want and the NSX just does not cut it. I spent the day today with a friend of mine with a Z06 and that killed it for me for the NSX. For less money I could buy the new ZR1 when it comes out next spring. If not, for even less than $100k a Z06 with all the trimmings could be acquired. For about $70k a Camaro ZL1 can provide the same thrill of speed and American hustle. While some may disagree, that is my decision. For the record my wife was all for the NSX. Besides buying anything like this going into the winter seems dumb. I would like to enjoy it for the spring/summer/fall for the first year, before it sits for the winter. I would basically not drive it for the first three/four months of ownership. Just does not make sense to me. If I lived in a southern climate, that would be different as there would be no salt on the roads, and no performance vehicle I will own will ever see any of that.