28,000 on this set of tires then a pothole took out the sidewalls!
11-05-2018, 08:12 PM
#1
Three Wheelin'
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28,000 on this set of tires then a pothole took out the sidewalls!
That's right folks. A rain filled pothole ruined two sidewalls and bent a rim tonight! I still have 6/32nds of tread and they were still quiet and smooth riding after 28,000 miles. I thought I was going to get more than 50,000 miles on this set. Nope. Thanks New York Department of Transportation! This was after I missed a sink hole last week by straddling it and just missed it. What a bummer. Well a new set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ 255/40/19 tires will be installed again shortly. What a waste.
11-06-2018, 11:55 AM
#2
That's right folks. A rain filled pothole ruined two sidewalls and bent a rim tonight! I still have 6/32nds of tread and they were still quiet and smooth riding after 28,000 miles. I thought I was going to get more than 50,000 miles on this set. Nope. Thanks New York Department of Transportation! This was after I missed a sink hole last week by straddling it and just missed it. What a bummer. Well a new set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ 255/40/19 tires will be installed again shortly. What a waste.
11-06-2018, 01:17 PM
#4
Three Wheelin'
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11-06-2018, 01:21 PM
#5
Three Wheelin'
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It's funny you comment about that. I never buy the tire insurance normally, but I did on this last set for some reason. I found out that the insurance will partially pay towards the replacement. I'm still going to get 4 so they all match, but it is irritating. I'll get an alignment too just to be sure it didn't send that out of adjustment.
11-06-2018, 04:22 PM
#6
Three Wheelin'
I'm going to agree with R. White and condemn the trend towards lower profile tires.
What gives me pause for thought is the fact that tire and auto manufacturers are making a fortune selling replacement rims and replacement tires, so maybe the move to lower profile tires is a calculated move to boost profits??? I really would need to see the quantitative data on how much lower profile tires improve handling to see if the rougher ride and greater risk of damage are worthwhile. My suspicion is that the move to lower profile is driven by marketing (the typical salesmen can certainly be heard convincing the unsuspecting buyer that a 19 inch tire must be better than an 18 inch tire - it is "one better") and esthetic reasons and not vast improvements in handling or safety.
Sorry for your trouble RLX-Sport Hybrid. You've made me more paranoid than ever about avoiding potholes.
What gives me pause for thought is the fact that tire and auto manufacturers are making a fortune selling replacement rims and replacement tires, so maybe the move to lower profile tires is a calculated move to boost profits??? I really would need to see the quantitative data on how much lower profile tires improve handling to see if the rougher ride and greater risk of damage are worthwhile. My suspicion is that the move to lower profile is driven by marketing (the typical salesmen can certainly be heard convincing the unsuspecting buyer that a 19 inch tire must be better than an 18 inch tire - it is "one better") and esthetic reasons and not vast improvements in handling or safety.
Sorry for your trouble RLX-Sport Hybrid. You've made me more paranoid than ever about avoiding potholes.
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11-06-2018, 07:58 PM
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Three Wheelin'
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11-07-2018, 06:00 AM
#9
Three Wheelin'
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I'm going to agree with R. White and condemn the trend towards lower profile tires.
What gives me pause for thought is the fact that tire and auto manufacturers are making a fortune selling replacement rims and replacement tires, so maybe the move to lower profile tires is a calculated move to boost profits??? I really would need to see the quantitative data on how much lower profile tires improve handling to see if the rougher ride and greater risk of damage are worthwhile. My suspicion is that the move to lower profile is driven by marketing (the typical salesmen can certainly be heard convincing the unsuspecting buyer that a 19 inch tire must be better than an 18 inch tire - it is "one better") and esthetic reasons and not vast improvements in handling or safety.
Sorry for your trouble RLX-Sport Hybrid. You've made me more paranoid than ever about avoiding potholes.
What gives me pause for thought is the fact that tire and auto manufacturers are making a fortune selling replacement rims and replacement tires, so maybe the move to lower profile tires is a calculated move to boost profits??? I really would need to see the quantitative data on how much lower profile tires improve handling to see if the rougher ride and greater risk of damage are worthwhile. My suspicion is that the move to lower profile is driven by marketing (the typical salesmen can certainly be heard convincing the unsuspecting buyer that a 19 inch tire must be better than an 18 inch tire - it is "one better") and esthetic reasons and not vast improvements in handling or safety.
Sorry for your trouble RLX-Sport Hybrid. You've made me more paranoid than ever about avoiding potholes.
11-07-2018, 08:03 AM
#11
I don't want to jinx it, but I have been driving either an Acura TL, RLX P-AWS or RLX SH all on 19's since 2012 and have never had a tire or rim issue due to potholes. I guess that's one positive about higher Canadian taxes 
. If you see a pothole, you email/tweet or call the city and they go out and fix it right away. With some high travelled routes as an exception, our streets are quite good. Winter can be tough on the road surfaces, but they are still out there repairing potholes 365 days a year.
. If you see a pothole, you email/tweet or call the city and they go out and fix it right away. With some high travelled routes as an exception, our streets are quite good. Winter can be tough on the road surfaces, but they are still out there repairing potholes 365 days a year.
11-07-2018, 09:19 AM
#12
Three Wheelin'
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I don't want to jinx it, but I have been driving either an Acura TL, RLX P-AWS or RLX SH all on 19's since 2012 and have never had a tire or rim issue due to potholes. I guess that's one positive about higher Canadian taxes . If you see a pothole, you email/tweet or call the city and they go out and fix it right away. With some high travelled routes as an exception, our streets are quite good. Winter can be tough on the road surfaces, but they are still out there repairing potholes 365 days a year.
. If you see a pothole, you email/tweet or call the city and they go out and fix it right away. With some high travelled routes as an exception, our streets are quite good. Winter can be tough on the road surfaces, but they are still out there repairing potholes 365 days a year.
11-07-2018, 10:10 AM
#13
40 Series tires are a no go for me-will not consider it at all. As much as I like the MMC on the RLX the tire choice is unacceptable for the road conditions most of us endure.
11-14-2018, 01:19 PM
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11-14-2018, 01:42 PM
#15
Three Wheelin'
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I believe that is the case, however when we find ourselves being frustrated by things that can't be avoided, it is my understanding that the regulations state that at some point we all let a curse word out, which is acceptable under certain conditions. I don't think any of us would say "oh sugar" if we got into an accident or somehow damaged our cars. I do appreciate the comment though. All in good fun. Got the new tires on today. Back in business.
11-16-2018, 11:04 AM
#16
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Dear RLX-Sport Hybrid,
I see you're driving on the Pilot Sport A/S 3+, correct? I was driving in my SH yesterday on some rather slick roads, and whilst accelerating through a left turn from a stop light, my rear really fish-tailed on the OEM Primacys more than I have ever experienced. They have about 2 yrs of wear on them now, but I was really surprised how much they lost grip. Granted the outside temp was about 36 degrees, but there was no ice, at least visably. I wanted to ask how you would compare the PS A/S 3+ vs the OEM Primacys because I think I'm going to replace after this winter... How do you find the ride, handling/grip, sportiness, noise, etc?
I see you're driving on the Pilot Sport A/S 3+, correct? I was driving in my SH yesterday on some rather slick roads, and whilst accelerating through a left turn from a stop light, my rear really fish-tailed on the OEM Primacys more than I have ever experienced. They have about 2 yrs of wear on them now, but I was really surprised how much they lost grip. Granted the outside temp was about 36 degrees, but there was no ice, at least visably. I wanted to ask how you would compare the PS A/S 3+ vs the OEM Primacys because I think I'm going to replace after this winter... How do you find the ride, handling/grip, sportiness, noise, etc?
11-16-2018, 11:12 AM
#17
Three Wheelin'
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Bellanova,
This is my second set of these and I could not be happier. I lived with the OEM, then went to the Conti DWS06, then the Mich A/S 3+ and will not go to another make/model again. They are fantastic especially in the 255/40/19 size I am using. Sidewall protection is excellent, and the ride/performance/noise level/traction is superb. I can't recommend them more. Yesterday was a particularly slippery day with the snow, but they performed nearly as good as dedicated snow tires. I would say traction was about 80% of what dedicated snow tires would produce. Far exceeded my expectations and yes there was a little slipping, but it was very controllable and predictable. Excellent!
This is my second set of these and I could not be happier. I lived with the OEM, then went to the Conti DWS06, then the Mich A/S 3+ and will not go to another make/model again. They are fantastic especially in the 255/40/19 size I am using. Sidewall protection is excellent, and the ride/performance/noise level/traction is superb. I can't recommend them more. Yesterday was a particularly slippery day with the snow, but they performed nearly as good as dedicated snow tires. I would say traction was about 80% of what dedicated snow tires would produce. Far exceeded my expectations and yes there was a little slipping, but it was very controllable and predictable. Excellent!
11-16-2018, 01:29 PM
#18
I replaced my OEM Michelin rubber with the AS3+ for my summer set after a few low speed white knuckled unexpected fishtails in light rain while turning as you described and have loved them: super grippy and quiet with excellent wet driving performance. Not one fishtail experience in plenty of wet driving conditions with the AS3+.
Interestingly enough, I have DWS06 rubber on my OEM 19 wheels as my winter set and they had terrible grip in yesterday’s snow. I didn’t remember them being so poor last winter...
Interestingly enough, I have DWS06 rubber on my OEM 19 wheels as my winter set and they had terrible grip in yesterday’s snow. I didn’t remember them being so poor last winter...
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11-16-2018, 02:18 PM
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Three Wheelin'
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I replaced my OEM Michelin rubber with the AS3+ for my summer set after a few low speed white knuckled unexpected fishtails in light rain while turning as you described and have loved them: super grippy and quiet with excellent wet driving performance. Not one fishtail experience in plenty of wet driving conditions with the AS3+.
Interestingly enough, I have DWS06 rubber on my OEM 19 wheels as my winter set and they had terrible grip in yesterday’s snow. I didn’t remember them being so poor last winter...
Interestingly enough, I have DWS06 rubber on my OEM 19 wheels as my winter set and they had terrible grip in yesterday’s snow. I didn’t remember them being so poor last winter...
11-16-2018, 04:17 PM
#20
Three Wheelin'
I looked at the Conti DSW's a while ago and the primary knock on them in the reviews that I read was that the snow traction decreased substantially with a year or two of wear. Otherwise, everyone seemed to love them. For that reason, I don't think they are a suitable substitute for a true winter tire.
Limelight, hopefully the issues you experienced were related to a specific set of conditions ( temp, wetness, freezing rain?) and you can still get a couple of more seasons with your DSW's.
Just my two cents.
Limelight, hopefully the issues you experienced were related to a specific set of conditions ( temp, wetness, freezing rain?) and you can still get a couple of more seasons with your DSW's.
Just my two cents.
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11-16-2018, 06:36 PM
#21
Dear RLX-Sport Hybrid,
I see you're driving on the Pilot Sport A/S 3+, correct? I was driving in my SH yesterday on some rather slick roads, and whilst accelerating through a left turn from a stop light, my rear really fish-tailed on the OEM Primacys more than I have ever experienced. They have about 2 yrs of wear on them now, but I was really surprised how much they lost grip. Granted the outside temp was about 36 degrees, but there was no ice, at least visably. I wanted to ask how you would compare the PS A/S 3+ vs the OEM Primacys because I think I'm going to replace after this winter... How do you find the ride, handling/grip, sportiness, noise, etc?
I see you're driving on the Pilot Sport A/S 3+, correct? I was driving in my SH yesterday on some rather slick roads, and whilst accelerating through a left turn from a stop light, my rear really fish-tailed on the OEM Primacys more than I have ever experienced. They have about 2 yrs of wear on them now, but I was really surprised how much they lost grip. Granted the outside temp was about 36 degrees, but there was no ice, at least visably. I wanted to ask how you would compare the PS A/S 3+ vs the OEM Primacys because I think I'm going to replace after this winter... How do you find the ride, handling/grip, sportiness, noise, etc?
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