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Old 07-11-2018, 08:59 AM
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Again, the issue isn't that they can't be upgraded. The issue to me is why does the CR-V which sells for 10k less in base trim have full exterior LED lights? We shouldn't be paying $35-45k for a "premium car" and then have to swap out LED lights which should have been that way in the first place.
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Originally Posted by chickdr
...why does the CR-V which sells for 10k less in base trim have full exterior LED lights? We shouldn't be paying $35-45k for a "premium car" and then have to swap out LED lights which should have been that way in the first place.
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Okay, but is it really an issue though? They’re turn signals. The person behind you has to look at them. Not you
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Old 07-12-2018, 08:19 AM
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Okay, but is it really an issue though? They’re turn signals. The person behind you has to look at them. Not you
Completely missing the point. Acura is selling a "high tech" theme for their brand. Why does the much cheaper Honda line have better tech than Acura?
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Who knew a bulb type could cause such discontent!?!
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Who knew a bulb type could cause such discontent!?!
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Completely missing the point. Acura is selling a "high tech" theme for their brand. Why does the much cheaper Honda line have better tech than Acura?
with all the technology in the RDX I don’t think one incandescent turn signal would disqualify the brand from being high tech. Plus, they’re going after the Prescision Crafted Performance theme anyway.
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I ordered a set of 'Canbus error-free' LEDs from Amazon.
When I get my car back from the body shop, I'll give them a try.
If they're suitable, fine; if not, they were only $19.95.
I'll update when I can.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:04 PM
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I think the discontent is from Acura making a conscious decision not to include something that is so commonplace and even expected. It’s things like this that stopped some people buying what is otherwise a really good car.
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Have you seen the CRV rear turn signal lights? They look cheap. The LED beam is weak, broken, and the design is cheap. I wouldn't want that on the RDX. I'd take these incandescent bulbs any day over cheaply done LEDs.

Now Audi rear LEDs turns are premium. If you do it... Do it right.
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Originally Posted by SebringSilver
I think the discontent is from Acura making a conscious decision not to include something that is so commonplace and even expected. It’s things like this that stopped some people buying what is otherwise a really good car.

How do we know it was conscious decision? I mean, the guy in charge of rear end lighting could be smacking hisself in the head, and saying ‘I coulda had a LED’.
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Is anyone really not buying this car because it lacks led bulbs? Really?

Acura set sales records last month with this car... so yeah they royally F’ed up the whole tiny light bulb thing. Can you imagine if it had led turn signals? They’d have a 6-9 month waiting list!!!

I guess the internet needs something to be outraged about. Maybe start a class action lawsuit citing mental anguish, or a FB movement to get the Acura design team fired for such an egregious misstep.
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Old 07-12-2018, 10:58 PM
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Is anyone really not buying this car because it lacks led bulbs? Really?

Acura set sales records last month with this car... so yeah they royally F’ed up the whole tiny light bulb thing. Can you imagine if it had led turn signals? They’d have a 6-9 month waiting list!!!

I guess the internet needs something to be outraged about. Maybe start a class action lawsuit citing mental anguish, or a FB movement to get the Acura design team fired for such an egregious misstep.
It’s probably not because of the absence of LED turn signals, at least not in my case. I didn’t get one simply because it wasn’t possible to get a fully loaded A-Spec with all the bells and whistles of the Platinum Elite (Advance in the US). Anyway, I’m sure everyone who bought one is thrillled with their purchase so that’s all that matters.
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Now Audi rear LEDs turns are premium. If you do it... Do it right.
Was behind a new Audi A4 and the sequential turn signal was very nice, seemed very smooth even better than the Ford Mustang.

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The old school bulbs just don't look premium. Acura is playing catch-up in the premium market, and appearances mean something. More than one Youtube reviewer has stated the rear can be mistaken for a RAV-4; and the side looks like a CR-V or a Murano. The non-LEDs don't help. Should this be a deal breaker ALONE, no. But did it sway some potential buyers who maybe weren't crazy about the push-button shifter, and/or the extremely limited interior color combinations? Probably.
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Originally Posted by TLX17
The old school bulbs just don't look premium. Acura is playing catch-up in the premium market, and appearances mean something. More than one Youtube reviewer has stated the rear can be mistaken for a RAV-4; and the side looks like a CR-V or a Murano. The non-LEDs don't help. Should this be a deal breaker ALONE, no. But did it sway some potential buyers who maybe weren't crazy about the push-button shifter, and/or the extremely limited interior color combinations? Probably.
LEDs equate to premium? Isn't truly just an aesthetics "feature". Sure, LEDs will last longer but incandescent will last many years too.

Acura created the premium import market. Sure, Lexus and Infiniti leap frogged over them and you will pay a good bit more for that

To each their own I guess, I am just surprised that there is so much complaining about a bulb type, to the point that a vehicle would be otherwise good if it were not for the bulb. #shrug*

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Originally Posted by Stew4HD
LEDs equate to premium? Isn't truly just an aesthetics "feature"....

Acura created the premium import market. Sure, Lexus and Infiniti leap frogged over them and you will pay a good bit more for that...
It appears that Acura has jumped ahead of Lexus now. Even though the RX350 costs more it still has *GASP* incandescent bulbs - front AND rear turn signals no less.

Civilization surely must be approaching an apocalyptic end.

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I converted all the incandescent bulbs in my house to LED bulbs. Not because I am classy or rich, I’m neither, but because I am a cheap bastid, and LED bulbs save me money.
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I bet it will be a "new" feature for 2020 RDX. "Full LED rear lights"
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I converted all on the lights in my home too. I see the benefits of LED, don't get me wrong, especially in the home.
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It appears that Acura has jumped ahead of Lexus now. Even though the RX350 costs more it still has *GASP* incandescent bulbs - front AND rear turn signals no less.

Civilization surely must be approaching an apocalyptic end.

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yeah I mean, if I’m buying a car with regular light bulbs (can’t even fathom the thought of that) then I might as well save $30k and just buy a Kia.

I was going to buy a 7 series BMW but the underhood light was incandescent. Once I saw that I threw up, cried, and stormed out of the dealership.
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Originally Posted by Spiller
Have you seen the CRV rear turn signal lights? They look cheap. The LED beam is weak, broken, and the design is cheap. I wouldn't want that on the RDX. I'd take these incandescent bulbs any day over cheaply done LEDs.
Hadn't noticed until you brought it up but, I was behind a CR-V at a red light today and took a good look at the LED pipe turn signal. You're right. Really weak execution.
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I know. I was going to get a new RDX and despite all of the very impressive content and over the top positive reviews on driving dynamics, I have changed my mind because there are no rear LED turn signal bulbs. Fire everyone at Acura.
An interesting deal breaker ...
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Dear Acura,
Why not just include LED bulbs so you can say you have full led lights and BMW charges 2K for this?
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Originally Posted by Stew4HD
LEDs equate to premium? Isn't truly just an aesthetics "feature". Sure, LEDs will last longer but incandescent will last many years too.

Acura created the premium import market. Sure, Lexus and Infiniti leap frogged over them and you will pay a good bit more for that

To each their own I guess, I am just surprised that there is so much complaining about a bulb type, to the point that a vehicle would be otherwise good if it were not for the bulb. #shrug*
Considering all other exterior bulbs are LED including the hidden rear license plate light, it is weird the rear turn signals are incandescent. This can't be an oversight; there must be some reason why they aren't LED.
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Considering all other exterior bulbs are LED including the hidden rear license plate light, it is weird the rear turn signals are incandescent. This can't be an oversight; there must be some reason why they aren't LED.
I have no doubt there is a reason they didn't use LEDs for that and we'll probably never know the reason
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I have no doubt there is a reason they didn't use LEDs for that and we'll probably never know the reason
Acura RDX Lighting Project Manager: “ Listen... I ain’t got no ‘mo money. Deal with it!!”
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Acura RDX Lighting Project Manager: “ Listen... I ain’t got no ‘mo money. Deal with it!!”
That's it, I am getting rid of my RDX! This is just not acceptable!
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Originally Posted by Stew4HD
I have no doubt there is a reason they didn't use LEDs for that and we'll probably never know the reason
The Illuminati said no rear LED turn signals
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Originally Posted by CGO
...This can't be an oversight; there must be some reason why they aren't LED.
I remember seeing or reading something somewhere that offered a reason - damned if I can find it now though.

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Enough with the hyperbole - "fire everyone", the BMW/Lexus has incandescent bulbs..etc . When Acura is trying to go after the Germans that all offer full LED lighting, the incandescent bulbs look pedestrian like Honda. Again, Acura is still very behind in the "luxury" market. Stupid oversight on their part just to have something to add for the MMC. Still a good vehicle, but I'm hoping they tweak it enough to look like an actual luxury SUV by the refresh.
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Seems like an easy mod to replace with LEDs? Acura doesn’t sense lights burned out and throw a dummy light on the dash due to the lower amp draw like the German competition, do they? -or- is this more of a matter of principle?
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Seems like an easy mod to replace with LEDs? Acura doesn’t sense lights burned out and throw a dummy light on the dash due to the lower amp draw like the German competition, do they? -or- is this more of a matter of principle?
I think the turn cycle timing still relies on a given amount of electrical current going through the incandescent bulb to get a normal flashing rate and the rate jumps up if a bulb goes out to alert you something is wrong. An LED would require a dummy parallel load resistor to compensate because it draws much less current but that could be hacked in there if you really wanted to. I think it's more a matter of principle for these folks.
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I think the turn cycle timing still relies on a given amount of electrical current going through the incandescent bulb to get a normal flashing rate and the rate jumps up if a bulb goes out to alert you something is wrong. An LED would require a dummy parallel load resistor to compensate because it draws much less current but that could be hacked in there if you really wanted to. I think it's more a matter of principle for these folks.
I am still amazed how turn signals rely on 30-40 year old technology to flash. One would think that would not be the case any longer.
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I am still amazed how turn signals rely on 30-40 year old technology to flash. One would think that would not be the case any longer.
There aren't too many ways to detect a burned light bulb. You can either measure its current draw or its light output. So what method would you prefer?
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Here is premium turn signals for you all, make sure you wear your apple watch or whatever premium, luxury time piece while performing these actions.

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Here is premium turn signals for you all, make sure you wear your apple watch or whatever premium, luxury time piece while performing these actions.
I cant use that in the winter. Another fail by Acura.
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I cant use that in the winter. Another fail by Acura.


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Or do like they do here in Texas, just refuse to signal intent! That way the bulb type is inconsequential.


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