Rear turn signals not LED
05-30-2018, 05:17 PM
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Rear turn signals not LED
Seems that front and side turn signals and all other exterior lighting elements are LED. Can the rear halogens turn signal lights be swapped out for LEDs easily?
Also, speaking of lighting, has anyone seen anything about puddle lamps?
Also, speaking of lighting, has anyone seen anything about puddle lamps?
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05-30-2018, 06:47 PM
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Never understand why they don’t make the turn signals led. Much lower end cars have them. It’s annoying. I think it really adds to a car.
I did read somewhere puddles are an option.
I did read somewhere puddles are an option.
05-30-2018, 06:49 PM
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There are four lights!
Yeah, every exterior light is LED except for the turn signals. Lame. Puddle lamps are available on certain trim apparently.
05-30-2018, 11:16 PM
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The Honda CR-V is one of them. Hilarious to me it has full LED and the RDX continues the same as before with a mix. At least the license plate lights are now LED. I had to go through and change a bunch of bulbs to LED on my 16.
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05-31-2018, 12:00 AM
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To me, Acura still just doesn't know how to be a real luxury brand. They tend to cut corners (at least in the US market) that although small individually, combine to make their products lack the presence of a high end vehicle (RAV-4 style tailights, halogen turn signals, no power-folding mirrors).
Disappointing to me b/c I was considering a purchase of the new RDX after my current lease expires. Hopefully they'll get it right with the MMC.
05-31-2018, 06:27 PM
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If that's the case, most so called luxury brands don't understand luxury....
I mean, why can't all luxury cars have LED headlights when they are standard on a Corolla?
I mean, why can't all luxury cars have LED headlights when they are standard on a Corolla?
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06-03-2018, 10:04 AM
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I know. I was going to get a new RDX and despite all of the very impressive content and over the top positive reviews on driving dynamics, I have changed my mind because there are no rear LED turn signal bulbs. Fire everyone at Acura.
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06-03-2018, 10:21 AM
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To me, Acura still just doesn't know how to be a real luxury brand. They tend to cut corners (at least in the US market) that although small individually, combine to make their products lack the presence of a high end vehicle (RAV-4 style tailights, halogen turn signals, no power-folding mirrors).
Although it might not tick off every box from a loaded S-class, Acura offers a pretty sweet bundle of features in their packages, for thousands less than the competition.
06-03-2018, 11:00 AM
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You can level this kind of argument about virtually every legitimate "luxury" brand, e.g. heated seats don't come standard on a Carrera. Keyless entry isn't standard on the E-class. The 3-series doesn't even offer ventilated seats or even a sync button for the climate zones.
Although it might not tick off every box from a loaded S-class, Acura offers a pretty sweet bundle of features in their packages, for thousands less than the competition.
Although it might not tick off every box from a loaded S-class, Acura offers a pretty sweet bundle of features in their packages, for thousands less than the competition.
06-03-2018, 03:48 PM
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My thoughts exactly. This aggression will not stand, man.
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06-03-2018, 04:42 PM
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It's not like the existing halogen turn signals are bad...car makers have been using them for decades and they're compliant with DOT. LEDs just offer better visibility and brightness than existing, but I highly doubt you can't see them while driving.
06-03-2018, 10:55 PM
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I'm pretty sure you can....I swapped out my incandescent bulbs to LED ones for my CTR, inside and out.
Someone above already posted a link:
No Hyper Flash 7507 PY21W LED Turn Signal Light Bulbs, Plug-N-Play Style
Someone above already posted a link:
No Hyper Flash 7507 PY21W LED Turn Signal Light Bulbs, Plug-N-Play Style
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06-03-2018, 11:32 PM
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You can level this kind of argument about virtually every legitimate "luxury" brand, e.g. heated seats don't come standard on a Carrera. Keyless entry isn't standard on the E-class. The 3-series doesn't even offer ventilated seats or even a sync button for the climate zones.
Although it might not tick off every box from a loaded S-class, Acura offers a pretty sweet bundle of features in their packages, for thousands less than the competition.
Although it might not tick off every box from a loaded S-class, Acura offers a pretty sweet bundle of features in their packages, for thousands less than the competition.
06-04-2018, 01:14 AM
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I don't think anyone is disagreeing that Acura doesn't have the same brand reputation as the German brands. The point people are making is that based on the new RDX, Acura is heading the right direction. Not having rear LED turn signals is a bit surprising, but it doesn't really mean Acura still doesn't know how to be a real luxury brand. That seems a bit harsh when the car does most other things so well. The idea is to make a car that feels like a luxury car, Missing a few features doesn't really take away from that. The problem with current Acura models is that if you take the price away, they aren't competitive, other than the MDX. The new RDX on the other hand, even if you don't consider the price, based on the first impressions and reviews so far, it at least looks, drives, and feels like a luxury car that can go head to head with the equivalent German models.
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06-04-2018, 01:35 AM
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I don't think anyone is disagreeing that Acura doesn't have the same brand reputation as the German brands. The point people are making is that based on the new RDX, Acura is heading the right direction. Not having rear LED turn signals is a bit surprising, but it doesn't really mean Acura still doesn't know how to be a real luxury brand. That seems a bit harsh when the car does most other things so well. The idea is to make a car that feels like a luxury car, Missing a few features doesn't really take away from that. The problem with current Acura models is that if you take the price away, they aren't competitive, other than the MDX. The new RDX on the other hand, even if you don't consider the price, based on the first impressions and reviews so far, it at least looks, drives, and feels like a luxury car that can go head to head with the equivalent German models.
Not trying to be overly-critical, but I guess my standards were too high for an Acura in 2018. Hopefully by the time my A4 lease is up the MMC will include everything they left out.
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06-04-2018, 09:28 AM
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...The fact is that Acura still isn't perceived as true luxury. I don't think anyone can honestly disagree with that. I was simply stating that if they including the little things that luxury cars have to COMPENSATE for their lessened-status as still generally being seen as 'fancy Hondas' , they'd be headed in the right direction.
Overlooking small details like a turn signal doesn't help, but there's no silver bullet here.
06-04-2018, 09:48 PM
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I see where TLX17 is coming from. IMO, the normal wheels from the German brands are quite bland too. Mercedes offers a lot of wheel options though for quite a bit of money. I feel bad for you guys down in the States lol, We do get power folding mirrors here in Canada. I think not having real wood trim is alright in other trims since they still use real aluminum. Not sure about the US but the bundles/packages from Lexus are similar to Acura.
06-10-2018, 06:02 PM
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At least it's a nice silver/amber bulb.
The LED replacements in the link to JDMTOY are not only $33.99 each but, claimed to be 3X brighter.
That seems unnecessary.
I'll wait until somebody else does it successfully. I won't be first
The LED replacements in the link to JDMTOY are not only $33.99 each but, claimed to be 3X brighter.
That seems unnecessary.
I'll wait until somebody else does it successfully. I won't be first
07-05-2018, 04:45 PM
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So I contacted the vendor that sells those turn signal LED bulbs, and because the front turn signals are already LED we will experience hyper flash if we only do a swap of the rear turn signal bulbs. You need to wire a load resistor to the turn signal plug to eliminate that.
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07-05-2018, 05:00 PM
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Thanks for getting that information. They said you couldn't replace both front and rear without hyper-flash. I was wondering if that would affect us since we already had LED fronts.
That's a deal breaker.
The other problem is that every one of these LED vendors tout the fact that they are 3-4 times brighter than halogens.
We've got clear lenses. I don't want to blind the driver behind me. I've already been rear ended once.
Hopefully somebody can do an error-free LED that doesn't blind people.
That's a deal breaker.
The other problem is that every one of these LED vendors tout the fact that they are 3-4 times brighter than halogens.
We've got clear lenses. I don't want to blind the driver behind me. I've already been rear ended once.
Hopefully somebody can do an error-free LED that doesn't blind people.
07-05-2018, 05:26 PM
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Every car is a series of pluses and minuses.
The RDX is an absolutely fine car in all driving aspects. Rather than comparing the Advance to the run-of-the-mill competition, look at the Tech package. Can you get anywhere near there for a car that performs at this level? Five thousand won’t get you there. A robust 2.0 liter that is a match for BMW and Audi, a 10 speed modern tranny (the BMW and Audi are just as good, even if the number of speeds is different). An equal if not better AWD. Comfortable leather seats, a panoramic roof, all the driving aids, and on.
As a car, you can’t get near the RDX for 5 thou, if not more. If dropping a few things keeps the total under 50K for the balls-out trim levels, well, you can easily load up the competition with six or seven grand more stuff and go over 55K. (Shop Curry Acura online for your self-installed accessories, like cargo nets.)
I test drove a Tech today. The RDX is flying off the lot. While I sat there, mid day, mid week, the floor model sold, another couple came in to close out their deal, and a third came in asking about the new RDX. The salesman said, when asked (I was waiting for their dedicated test-drive Tech to come back), that they sold their last ‘18 a couple of days ago, and these things are moving. In conversation, he knew I wasn’t buying today, that my timeline is after the summer, when we get back from traveling, and enough before we go to Florida (end of January) to have the car fully broken in and my learning curve complete. So he said, November December? And I said, yeah. And, hopefully, by then, things will cool off. He said the new Acura support stuf will come out any day now, and will likely carry through ‘till Labor Day, so look to the next promo after that; all they have now is the thousand loyalty. He doesn’t know if it is lease or buy promo.
When end the time comes to make a decision, I will get the (as always) the best deal I can on the car I want to buy. Some folks get the best car they can on the deal they like best. To me, for a car, that is bass ackwards.
The RDX is an absolutely fine car in all driving aspects. Rather than comparing the Advance to the run-of-the-mill competition, look at the Tech package. Can you get anywhere near there for a car that performs at this level? Five thousand won’t get you there. A robust 2.0 liter that is a match for BMW and Audi, a 10 speed modern tranny (the BMW and Audi are just as good, even if the number of speeds is different). An equal if not better AWD. Comfortable leather seats, a panoramic roof, all the driving aids, and on.
As a car, you can’t get near the RDX for 5 thou, if not more. If dropping a few things keeps the total under 50K for the balls-out trim levels, well, you can easily load up the competition with six or seven grand more stuff and go over 55K. (Shop Curry Acura online for your self-installed accessories, like cargo nets.)
I test drove a Tech today. The RDX is flying off the lot. While I sat there, mid day, mid week, the floor model sold, another couple came in to close out their deal, and a third came in asking about the new RDX. The salesman said, when asked (I was waiting for their dedicated test-drive Tech to come back), that they sold their last ‘18 a couple of days ago, and these things are moving. In conversation, he knew I wasn’t buying today, that my timeline is after the summer, when we get back from traveling, and enough before we go to Florida (end of January) to have the car fully broken in and my learning curve complete. So he said, November December? And I said, yeah. And, hopefully, by then, things will cool off. He said the new Acura support stuf will come out any day now, and will likely carry through ‘till Labor Day, so look to the next promo after that; all they have now is the thousand loyalty. He doesn’t know if it is lease or buy promo.
When end the time comes to make a decision, I will get the (as always) the best deal I can on the car I want to buy. Some folks get the best car they can on the deal they like best. To me, for a car, that is bass ackwards.
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07-05-2018, 05:58 PM
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Regarding the RDX I'm waiting on right now I ended up about $500 better than my goal and about $2600 better than the dealer's initial 'offer'. Took about 3 hours and 2 emails before we got to "Done Deal".
Different strokes for different folks.
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07-05-2018, 06:09 PM
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I used to be one of those that always tried to get the 'best' deal. Problem is there's no way to determine what the 'best' deal is so it becomes an exercise in frustration and stressing about whether or not I can do better. Now I sit down with all the information I can gather and decide on a deal I can be happy with and if I get it I go with it and don't look back, if I don't I don't buy and don't look back on that decision either. A lot less work and a lot less stress.
Regarding the RDX I'm waiting on right now I ended up about $500 better than my goal and about $2600 better than the dealer's initial 'offer'. Took about 3 hours and 2 emails before we got to "Done Deal".
Different strokes for different folks.
Regarding the RDX I'm waiting on right now I ended up about $500 better than my goal and about $2600 better than the dealer's initial 'offer'. Took about 3 hours and 2 emails before we got to "Done Deal".
Different strokes for different folks.
Maybe it is a matter of definition, or emphasis. I get the best deal I can get. I normally get three bids, press each one, and arrive at a number I will either take, or go back to the drawing board. I can’t always get what I want, but I try to get what I need.
07-05-2018, 08:34 PM
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Yeah, sounds like we do pretty much the same.
07-05-2018, 09:48 PM
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yes. And the death penalty! Funny. For the lights that count, e.g. head lights, fog lights, etc., of course LED. But a rear turn signal? Seriously? Had I not read about it I’d never know. Irrelevant.
07-05-2018, 10:11 PM
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Don't forget that the back-up lights are three LEDs on each side. While not having LED rear turn signals is not an issue for me, I just don't understand why they designed all the lights to be LEDS except for the rear turn signals. Oh well, I guess that I'll live without them.
07-06-2018, 06:32 AM
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Guys, it's even worse than previously reported. 
The Vanity Mirror Lights, Door Courtesy Lights and Glove Box Light are also incandescent.
Seriously thinking about cancelling my order - NOT.
The Vanity Mirror Lights, Door Courtesy Lights and Glove Box Light are also incandescent.
Seriously thinking about cancelling my order - NOT.
07-07-2018, 06:30 AM
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If the lack of LEDs bother anyone a stero shop can pro install them with load resistors with an hour of shop time. They solder all the connections and mount the resistor to the frame for heat dissipation. Have done this on a few cars - no issues through 8yrs/100k
07-07-2018, 07:52 AM
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I haven’t looked but there are probably kits out there to swap them for LED. I know in my tsx I swapped some head lamps and markers to LED and I had to buy a clip that converted them which had some internal wiring so that it didn’t fry anything in the electrical system. Maybe a matter of waiting for them to hit the aftermarket.
07-07-2018, 11:29 AM
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Yeah all it takes is a load resistor to dissipate the extra power. Quite simple, but I wouldn’t rely on any clip on kits...make sure all the connections are soldered and protected with heat shrink.
07-08-2018, 09:04 AM
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My two cents...
While LED turn signals aren't a game changer for me, as an Acura loyalist I see this as a bit of carelessness, oversight to the details, and lapse amongst the decision makers at Acura probably related to keeping the price down. The cost of aftermarket bulbs and load resistors is what, $70 total? Through economies of scale, high volume orders with Honda's many suppliers, I'm sure they could've delivered LED turn signals for 25% of that amount if not more. On a $45k car, what's another $20-30 at that point to the buyer? If they're going to go through the trouble of doing LED for everything else, why not go all the way?
The fact is that we've all noticed this miss, and are to some extent bothered enough to comment on it. Thousands of other potential buyers may notice it too. Will it be a deal breaker for people? Probably not.
While LED turn signals aren't a game changer for me, as an Acura loyalist I see this as a bit of carelessness, oversight to the details, and lapse amongst the decision makers at Acura probably related to keeping the price down. The cost of aftermarket bulbs and load resistors is what, $70 total? Through economies of scale, high volume orders with Honda's many suppliers, I'm sure they could've delivered LED turn signals for 25% of that amount if not more. On a $45k car, what's another $20-30 at that point to the buyer? If they're going to go through the trouble of doing LED for everything else, why not go all the way?
The fact is that we've all noticed this miss, and are to some extent bothered enough to comment on it. Thousands of other potential buyers may notice it too. Will it be a deal breaker for people? Probably not.
07-08-2018, 09:47 AM
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Just a thought - is it possible they didn’t do LEDs in the turn signals because they somehow blend too much with the LED break lights so it would be harder to see that the turn signal is blinking if it was LED also? Has to be a legit reason for it.
07-08-2018, 05:36 PM
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This discussion reminds me of the very old Arnold Palmer joke (this is the PC version) when a unknowing gas station attendant asked Arnie what those things (tees) were he had in the ashtray. Arnie said, “I put those under my balls!”. The attendant responded, “Damn, this Cadillac has everything!”.
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