RDX Advanced vs Volvo XC 60 /40
#42
The T6 has (in my lowly opinion) nice pick up to it.....And then add the Polestar addition.....I found it to me sort of a "I'm going that fast already" car as it was quiet @ smooth..but I am coming from a 2016 Outback 2.5......But people are right, the RDX is the better value
#43
Aside from the price difference, what about reliability?
I know that the XC90 (which shares a platform with the XC60) has been plagued with dreadful reliability issues (electronics, nav, etc.).
I know that the XC90 (which shares a platform with the XC60) has been plagued with dreadful reliability issues (electronics, nav, etc.).
#44
I honestly can't say...The few people I have chatted with have had no issues and love the car.....the volvo forums, like most of these forums (Acura forums here are full of people posting issues, but yet people believe its a great car) are people that have issues and looking for solutions.....I would say, most have very few problems at all.....2019 is only the 2nd yr of the model chg.....To help ease my concerns with long term issues, I plan to buy the Volvo 10 yr warranty......If I had bought the RDX, I too would have bought an extended warranty as I plan to keep this car for at least 10 yrs.....well so my wife says,lol
#45
Three Wheelin'
My RDX did that when I first got it. But it doesn't do that anymore. So if I have brake hold activated, when I come to a stop, the engine stops, I let go of the brake pedal, car remains stationery. After a while, engine restarts, the brake hold is still activated and does not roll forward.
#46
My issue though is that whatever breaks on the Volvo, it's going to cost A LOT more to repair than on the Acura. So even if they are equally reliable, the Volvo will always cost more. A good warranty is a must!
#47
Null and proud of it
It still sucks spend $700 usd to fix the RDX every few months...
What would a Volvilo cost to repair, $1500???
Acura repairs are close to that if a Honda, given most of my repairs have taken place at a Honda dealer... Just so it's not electrical....
What would a Volvilo cost to repair, $1500???
Acura repairs are close to that if a Honda, given most of my repairs have taken place at a Honda dealer... Just so it's not electrical....
#48
I think if one is going to keep their car long term, an extended warranty is worth it......a 10 yr/100,000 mile warranty is around $2200 (with a $250 deductible) for the volvo
#49
#50
Volvo has announced they are phasing out internal combustion engines, and fairly quickly as I recall (5 years or so). Not sure what that means for someone buying a current model they plan to keep a while, but something to note.
#51
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Null and proud of it
Even then, aftermarket and salvage parts should be available...
Atleast the old days are over where you can't get parts for a 10 year old car. I can find so many parts so cheap for my old 2001 Camry, it's not even funny!
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#62
Three Wheelin'
Here’s the problem with the Audi S4: It’s boring. Both inside and out. All right, that’s not a crime, but it’s inexcusable in this day and age. Tesla makes an electric sedan that is more interesting, visually, than this car is, for goodness sake.
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That translates to a zero-to-60 sprint time of 4.4 seconds. The base-level BMW M3 can do 60mph in 3.9 seconds, and the Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG can do it in 4 seconds flat. There’s really no comparison.
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That translates to a zero-to-60 sprint time of 4.4 seconds. The base-level BMW M3 can do 60mph in 3.9 seconds, and the Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG can do it in 4 seconds flat. There’s really no comparison.
Also, base-level BMW M3? As opposed to which level?
As for the RDX, the alternatives he suggests are all way more expensive. The BMW X3's seats are plain uncomfortable.
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#64
Burning Brakes
Bloomberg is a long way from being considered an authoritative automotive organization.
Last edited by MI-RDX; 12-22-2018 at 05:32 PM.
#65
The Volvo XC60 really is priced too high. I like th volvo the best but $7k difference seems too high for similiar SUVs Here are the deals I have so far:
2019 XC60 $51k + taxes
2019 BMW X3 $44k + taxes
2019 Acura RDX Advanced $44k + taxes
2019 XC60 $51k + taxes
2019 BMW X3 $44k + taxes
2019 Acura RDX Advanced $44k + taxes
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No, they are not. I have the Tech, and to get the X3 equipped the same way was a good chunk over $5K more, almost 10K. Leather, Nav, an equivalent sound system, all the driving aides, the pano roof, that stuff adds up fast on a German car. I do like the BMW iDrive better, plus folding mirrors. The Bimmer did drive a tad better as well, IMO, but I was coming from a 535, so I might have been prejudiced about that.
Too, if you want to wait, you can pick and choose your options. Have kids? Might want to give up leather and stick with the BMW vinyl, which is good. Can skip the pano roof, and put in the hud, options like that can be done with BMW, but not Acura.
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#69
I know with the Volvo, if one goes with the T5, it sure feels less peppy than the RDX, 1 would have to spend another $1200 for the Polestar upgrade which tunes it to give a bit more HP/Torque.....The T6 is like another $3000 over the T5. Pretty hard to beat the RDX value wise
#70
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/s4-...-list-2964373/
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#71
No, they are not. I have the Tech, and to get the X3 equipped the same way was a good chunk over $5K more, almost 10K. Leather, Nav, an equivalent sound system, all the driving aides, the pano roof, that stuff adds up fast on a German car. I do like the BMW iDrive better, plus folding mirrors. The Bimmer did drive a tad better as well, IMO, but I was coming from a 535, so I might have been prejudiced about that.
Too, if you want to wait, you can pick and choose your options. Have kids? Might want to give up leather and stick with the BMW vinyl, which is good. Can skip the pano roof, and put in the hud, options like that can be done with BMW, but not Acura.
But yeah definitely missing a lot of options to have the same price. Not surprised that the X3 drives a little better, it has a really good weight balance and RWD dynamics. But the RDX definitely keeps up which is nice.
I found that Bloomberg article over at Audiworld where I frequent, as I have an S5. Some even defended the RDX.
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/s4-...-list-2964373/
https://www.audiworld.com/forums/s4-...-list-2964373/
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I think it is pretty hard to go wrong with any of the cars in discussion. Is this or that worth the difference between those over there compared to the one over here? Any of the cars in question are good choices, IMO.
#73
Instructor
I'm not sure your level-headed, rational perspective fits in here, Madd Dog. Do you understand how these forums work??
#74
IMO it's actually pretty hard to buy a bad crossover these days. Everything has moved so far forward and the gap between mainstream and luxury is narrower than ever. I mean hell did you know the new Hyundai 7 passenger crossover is going to have heated and cooled BACK SEATS?! That's incredible in a mainstream crossover to me. Can't go wrong. All a matter of how you like driving, what features you want, and what size you want.
#75
IMO it's actually pretty hard to buy a bad crossover these days. Everything has moved so far forward and the gap between mainstream and luxury is narrower than ever. I mean hell did you know the new Hyundai 7 passenger crossover is going to have heated and cooled BACK SEATS?! That's incredible in a mainstream crossover to me. Can't go wrong. All a matter of how you like driving, what features you want, and what size you want.
#76
Hyundias have really improved..I think when soem think Hyundai..they think of the old crappy Ponys. Back in 2010 we test drove a Tuscan and was very suprised....ended up buying a CRV as we were going over seas and had more trust in a Honda.....few yrs later going to another over seas posting and knew Hyundias were very popular there, so bought a 2012 Tucson...No issues at all. When we came back to the USA, had planned on buying a new 2016 Tucson, but they were having DCT issues..and the CRvs were having vibration issues....thus went with a Subaru. Even Kai's get some pretty good reviews as well. I believe you you take care of your car, it will treat you well.....I have friends that do complain about their cars not lasting....but they tend to drive them very hard and not do the basic maintenance! Merry Xmas all.....and if you dont celebrate Xmas, have a great day!!
But I just appreciate that they always try and punch above their class with some unique touches and features. Although IMO they are not really a value play anymore. A fully loaded Santa fe (the smaller one) is like 45k-46k canadian....that's a couple k more than a base Q5 or GLC. A Kia Sorento SXL is about 50k, that's Honda Pilot money. But I mean for that 45k you get something that honestly wouldn't be out of place to compare to an RDX.
Don't get me wrong, the RDX is definitely a nicer vehicle, but it is about 10-13k more comparably equipped. Again it's up to the buyer to decide if it's worth spending more to jump from mainstream to premium/luxury class or to jump up within the premium/luxury classes.
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Originally posted by : DWG
I'm not sure your level-headed, rational perspective fits in here. Do you understand how these forums work??
Usually lots and lots of and some to say the least...
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@Midnight Mystery ...amen bother. This is one of the most touchiest groups of folks I have ever run into on any forum I've ever been on in the last 15 years. You get attacked for saying just about anything. We are driving an ACURA...not a Ferrari or Lambo but the egos on this site come out loud and clear. This site makes my Audi site look like a group of angels but, at last there, everyone is cordial and not in constant attack mode. You try to correct an incorrect statement...attacked. You have an opinion that is different....attacked. Now, I am sure it won't take long for me to get bashed...again
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