JustMe...

But, didn't they want to charge you $8k for a head unit you say you fried doing a nav update on your old GS? This clearly should have been covered under warranty.

ross7777

irishbrahmin

That happened out of town. I think that my hometown dealership would have handled things differently. But aside from that, even among Lexus dealerships there's a wide spectrum.

zroger73

Either this was back in 2015 or this salesperson was ignorant.

Hyundai's 5-year, 60,000-mile New Vehicle Limited Warranty covers repair or replacement of any component manufactured or originally installed by Hyundai that is defective in material or factory workmanship, under normal use and maintenance. The exceptions are:

• Radio and audio systems (i.e., radio, compact disc player, DVD player, navigation system and Bluetooth®): for MY 15 and prior, 3 years/36,000 miles—Equus: 5 years/60,000 miles
• Radio and audio systems (i.e., radio, compact disc player, DVD player, navigation system and Bluetooth®): for MY 16 and newer, 5 years/60,000 miles for all models
• Paint: 3 years/36,000 miles
• Battery: for MY 15 and prior, 3 years/unlimited miles (100% covered 2 years/unlimited miles; after 2 years and within 3 years, 25% cost of battery and 100% labor cost covered)
• Battery: for MY 16, 3 years/36,000 miles (no proration)
• Air conditioner refrigerant charge: 1 year/unlimited miles
• Adjustments: 1 year/12,000 miles
• Wear items: 1 year/12,000 miles (e.g., belts, brake pads and linings, clutch linings, filters, wiper blades, bulbs and fuses)

https://www.hyundaiusa.com/assurance...arranty.aspx#2

ross7777

Jim7707

One nice thing about the Acura warranty, at least for the prior generation, is that the battery is fully covered under the 4yr/50k warranty. If you live in a hot climate, like say Phoenix, it is almost a 100% certainty that the battery won't last 4 years. I just got my battery replaced at no cost on my 40 month old 2016. 32 of those months spent in Phoenix. 40 months is longer than I've had a battery last in the 30 years I lived there so the factory battery performed well.

zroger73

I live in a moderate climate and rarely get more than 3-4 years of out any lead-acid battery these days. 20 years ago, it seemed like I rarely replaced batteries. I blame cheaper battery construction and much higher electrical demands on modern vehicles.

ross7777

My 2012 Infiniti G37 had the original battery when I traded it in December and my wife's 2013 Highlander still has the original battery. I used to replace at 5 years but I now use a battery tester. 3-4 years seems short to me.

MI-RDX

Best I ever got out of a battery was an OEM Panasonic in a 2002 Toyota Highlander. I replaced it after 7 1/2 years only because I figured I was on borrowed time. The tech in the battery shop checked it out beforehand and confirmed it had no problems and was surprised at it's condition and age.

Midnight Mystery

I had a 2001 Toyota Camry that would go through a battery a year. I've also had cars where they last 5+ years. Who knows...

Rmsanger

anoop

I'm not @RDX10, but here's my experience
2015 328i -- No issues other than minor rattles, but N20 timing chain issue was a ticking bomb. Car was under BMW warranty and maintenance to 100K. Only brakes were replaced. LOUSY headlights even with Xenon. (Please pay attention to the headlights in the X1.)
2014 328 -- Lemon buy back because of chassis errors that couldn't be fixed, but had several other issues as well. Enough said.
2003 325i -- Super fun to drive and the last of the ultimate driving machines. Car was under BMW warranty and maintenance to 100K. Several issue under warranty -- (fuel sending units x 2), rattles, ignition coils (left me stranded), power window regulator, moonroof issue, etc. Cost about $4K-$5K per year in maintenance after 100K (I used to drive about 20-25K miles per year). I was very particular about preventative maintenance. To me it was worth it because it felt special.

Just take a close look at the CPO warranty and find out if prepaid maintenance is available and how much it costs. That will give you an idea of what it will cost to maintain the car if you get a bad one. The X1 is considerably smaller than the RDX and it's built on the FWD Mini platform. Seat comfort cannot hold a candle to the RDX.

I think it really depends on what you are looking for. One is big in size and big on luxury. The other is small in size and big on power. I'm not sure I would call the X1 sporty. I have had one as a loaner and wasn't impressed. If I wanted a sporty SUV I would go for the Stelvio (no 6-cylinder option unless you go for the QF which is $$$) or the Macan ($$, $$$ with 6-cyl).

Dereileak

bl^5

Don't keep your Explorer passed warranty. I have a '17 Sport fully loaded and I'm about to let it go.

Pros:
1. Powerful
2. Enough Tech for me (folding mirrors, remote start, dual panel sunroof, android auto, AWD (I visit construction sites often so I actually put it to use)
3. Great layout for a family of five. Second row buckets, and split power folding 3rd row.
4. Work acceptable (smh, I work in an industry where lux cars aren't in the parking lots and will get you the side eye)

Cons:
1. Gas tank is SMALL
2. Dealer experience is that of Ford. No loaner cars. No regard AT ALL for your time. Treat you just like they treat a Ford Focus owner or a fleet driver.

Background:
I had a company explorer ('16 XLT) that I put 90K miles on in 2 years. It was solid, reliable, and did everything I needed it to do (minus the annoyingly small fuel tank). I changed companies and opted to get my own Explorer. I tested the Sport and really liked the power bump. After 50K miles in 18 months it started misfiring under heavy RPM. They appear to have an issue with the fuel pump breaking down and sending debris into the fuel system. Mine has been in the shop for almost a month now waiting on a back ordered fuel rail (apparently this is a wide spread issue). From what I understand this is a ~$6K issue. Luckily it's covered under the 60K warranty, but I don't want to caught with the same issue after the warranty is gone. The dealer experience was/is HORRIBLE.
I anticipate picking it up and taking it straight to CarMax....

I used to agree with the sentiment to buy a car that doesn't break down in stead of buying a car with a good dealer experience. I thought that was what I was doing, but when push comes to shove, having that good dealer to fall back on would be beneficial.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

Not sure if it's the same in the US, but in Canada, my RDX has a camera washer. It helps greatly when it's raining.

RDX10

My experiences were with a 2005 X5 4.4I and a 2008 X5 4.8I. It was just constant repairs for parts that would last much longer on normal cars. Engine oil leaks and burning oil, displays losing pixels to the point of becoming non legible, idrive stopped working so it would reset all my settings, it was just a ton of very expensive repairs and every time I would deal with one thing another thing would pop up just as fast to replace it. Not to mention resale value is absolute shit.

My advice, please stay away from the X1 and grab the RDX. Thank me later. I would get an Audi any day of the week but never ever a BMW. I too was pulled in to BMW with the promise of a great driving experience and sure when it was working it was awesome but it was never really fully working. I reiterate I will NEVER EVER touch a BMW again.

RDX10

This is only on the PE though right?

Midnight Mystery

Not going to say I trust Audi, but they seem to be doing much better than most of the other Euro brands. That being said, RDX all of the way.

zroger73

In the US, only the Advance trim has a camera washer and it works very well - this should be standard on all vehicles. It only costs the manufacturer a few dollars for a plastic nozzle, hose, and fittings and it runs off the windshield washer pump.

RDX10

Agreed! The reverse camera is a brilliant safety innovation that is rendered absolutely useless when conditions are wet or slushy. The washer is the perfect solution. My last 5 vehicles have had a reverse camera and it's useless unless I go and clean it every few days.

kurtatx

Audi has figured out their engines and transmissions to the point they're fairly reliable. The problem is the cost to fix is still too high. RDX is nice because under the hood it's a Honda.

iforyou

iTrader: (1)

I'm not sure if it's PE only, but if it's only on the Advance, then it's probably only on the PE haha.

Yup, it's a lovely feature! Without it, it's unusable (like many cars) when it's raining.

Midnight Mystery

Like I said before, the one VW I had experience with felt very tight and solid at 180K miles, cost tobfix if it breaks is high, but when it works, it works incredibly well, and given the old track record, it suprises me very much, in retrospect...


But Honda makes some bad ass engines, regardless...

RDX10

Exactly! I can't believe it's taken this long to trickle down to less ultra lux brands.

Midnight Mystery

What is PE? I just can't put it together.

RDX10

PE = Platinum-Elite, it is the Canadian trim that is equivalent to Advance in the states. We have a really stupid trim structure in Canada. Base, Tech, A-Spec, Elite, Platinum-Elite. Except the A-Spec has some features not available on the elite such as 16 speakers and ventilated seats and the Elite is like a tech plus 2 small features. It's just stupid IMO.

Midnight Mystery

OK. That clears things up, thanks!!!

RDX10

MM why the hell is your avatar a dragon humping a VW GTI? Like why?

Midnight Mystery

No one has pointed that out until now, I've had it there for about three weeks now. LOL!

I forget to change it sometimes... I changed when I confirmed "dragoning" to
CCColtsicehock ey's NSX thread... It's been an off/on thing since about October....

IDK, it's different... I know, I've been in 3G Ramblings too much as well...


It seems Taco rage quit again, BTW.

mamat

I completely agree with you .There are many happy owners and I feel bad for those who are having so much trouble, but for every bad post, there are 10 others who are happy, but are just not on this forum.

JB in AZ

Yep! I registered here, and on a few other forums of vehicles I was considering. Did I read about issues here and on the others? Of course. That's what primarily brings folks to the forums, to find a fix, or resolution to an issue. Anyone who has frequented forums for any length of time will tell you that there are far more vocal folks with issues than without. And I bought an RDX after two weeks of intense forum reading, and test driving. It is the best vehicle for my needs, at a price that can't be matched by any of the competitors. Will I experience issues? Probably.

I used to work for a company that had a saying, "Make Raving Fans". They knew unhappy customers would complain, tell everyone they knew about their unsatisfaction.... and happy folks would be silent. They wanted to make customers so happy, that they would RAVE about the company. Same thing applies on forums, happy folks mostly are silent, unhappy folks are vocal.

MI-RDX

...and repeat themselves (sometimes a lot) so 1 problem seems to be many problems unless you take time to determine how many unique instances are being reported.

JB in AZ

Thanks for adding this thought! You are absolutely correct!

RDX10

I was wondering why he wasn't posting, I thought he might have been temp banned but he isn't. Any idea what happened?

Damion Goodrich

Can I ask what they offered you in trade amount? I am ready to offload my 19' RDX also.

Damion Goodrich

The quality control from Acura is crap. My new 19' RDX is full of paint issues. It really makes me upset. I wished I know this before I took it home.

irishbrahmin

I don't remember; and unfortunately I'm traveling so I cannot look at my paperwork.

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zroger73

It cost me right at $5,000 to own a 2019 RDX Advance for 3-1/2 months.

To add to this, I'm an active member on several forums in including Civic, Accord, CR-V, Ridgeline, and TOV. From what I can see, the RDX seems to suffer from a larger number of complaints that are more common relative to the number of vehicles sold than any of these others. Yes, each of these models have problems and negative characteristics just like anything else, but the RDX comes across as one of the more unfinished and rushed products that is plagued by an unusually high number of issues.

I've owed a lot of vehicles and trade often. Normally, I trade because I get tired of something or something else comes along that I just can't live without. In the case of my RDX, it had so many problems that were above my tolerance threshold that I was willing to take an even bigger loss than normal just to get out from underneath it.

PWMDMD