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Old 12-30-2018, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by russianDude
In the other thread someone pointed out that they are using the same Honda OEM filters as in 1st and 2nd gen RDX,
If this is the case, the same size Mobil1 filter is M1-110/110A. Mobil1 website likely is not updated yet.
it doesn't says fit 2019 rdx on amazon..
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Originally Posted by Yotrek
it doesn't says fit 2019 rdx on amazon..

So oemacuraparts.com says that part# for 2019 RDX is #90015-PH1-013. It also shows that the same part fits 2008 RDX. Which means M1-110A is the Mobil1 filter. If you put 2007-2011 RDX into Mobil1 website, they will say that M1-110A is the part.
It looks like they continue using the same filter.
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Originally Posted by Yotrek
it doesn't says fit 2019 rdx on amazon..



These are the OEM Parts for the '19 RDX.
  • 15400-RTA-003 - Oil Filter
  • 94109-14000 - Drain Plug Washer
As someone stated -- doesn't really matter what you can pick; Pennzoil / Mobil 1 / Valvoline / etc. get whatever you really want. As long as you're following the maintenance minder you'll be okay. I prefer Mobil 1 0w-20 advance fuel economy, and just buy in bulk because there's usually a sale/coupon/rebate combo that brings the price down significantly ($10-12 for a 5-qt).

The only stuff I personally stay away from is the store's brand of oil (i.e. SuperTech for Walmart), and the additives like fuel cleaners and what-not.
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I'm a firm believer in using FULL Synthetic oil in all my cars for decades, even more so if it has a turbo. If the RDX came from factory with FULL Synthetic oil when the time comes, use FULL Synthetic oil again, However if it came with standard oil I'd wait until having about 7,000 to 7,500 miles to change over to FULL Synthetic oil as the engine may need to break in a bit. Use the weight indicated. NEVER USE A BLEND SINCE YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT % IS Synthetic. There are no gov't or industry regulations for a "Blended" oil

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Originally Posted by Mark S Long Island
I'm a firm believer in using FULL Synthetic oil in all my cars for decades, even more so if it has a turbo. If the RDX came from factory FULL Synthetic oil then when the time comes, use FULL Synthetic oil again, However if it came with standard oil I'd wait until you have about 7,000 to 7,500 miles change it to FULL Synthetic oil as the engine m=may need to break in a bit
Avoiding synthetic oil during engine break-in is an old wive's tale; in this day and age, there is exactly zero reason to avoid synthetic during engine break-in.
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Old 01-04-2019, 10:05 AM
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Anyone here using Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20 ? what you think?
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Originally Posted by Yotrek
Anyone here using Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20 ? what you think?
Some will say it sucks, some will say it's great, and still other will say, "Who the hell cares?"

The thing is, oil is like religion, use the brand and weight you worship, it will make zero difference in how long your engine lasts.
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Originally Posted by horseshoez
Some will say it sucks, some will say it's great, and still other will say, "Who the hell cares?"

The thing is, oil is like religion, use the brand and weight you worship, it will make zero difference in how long your engine lasts.
I would agree with you, but the reason I asked because when I am bringing my own oil for oil change last week, mechanic saying that this oil is so no good, not made for Honda or Acura..

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Originally Posted by Yotrek
Anyone here using Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20 ? what you think?
Both pennzoil and mobil1 are top brands sold in stores. They both do well with normal OLM. I used to like mobil1, but lately they got crazy by introducing dozens of different synthetic oil products for pure marketing. Seems like they are more concerned about marketing rather than focusing on making good oil(IMHO). If you go with pennzoil, Id suggest Ultra version which is only few bucks more.
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Old 01-04-2019, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Yotrek
I would agree with you, but the reason I asked because when I am bringing my own oil for oil change last week, mechanic saying that this oil is so no good, not made for Honda or Acura..
what??? Is that acura mechanic, he is an idiot. If its 0w-20 its as good as any other 0w-20 oil
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Old 01-04-2019, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Yotrek
Anyone here using Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20 ? what you think?
Yes.

Pennzoil is my #1 choice. #2 is Mobil 1 or Castrol (whichever is cheaper)

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Originally Posted by Yotrek
I would agree with you, but the reason I asked because when I am bringing my own oil for oil change last week, mechanic saying that this oil is so no good, not made for Honda or Acura..
I agree with @russianDude, your mechanic is a complete moron and has no freakin' clue what he's talking about; time for a new mechanic.
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If you want to get technical about it according to these measurements.

Higher film strength means less chances of metal-to-metal contact between moving parts, so less engine wear.
The HIGHER the psi value, the BETTER the Wear Protection.

1. 0W20 Quaker State Ultimate Durability, API SN, synthetic (gold bottle) = 124,393 psi
Its onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
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2. 0W20 Toyota Motor Oil, API SN, synthetic = 101,460 psi
Its onset of Thermal Breakdown = 255*F
.
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3. 0W20 Mobil 1 Extended Performance, API SN, dexos 1 approved, synthetic = 100,229 psi
Its onset of Thermal Breakdown = 265*F
.
.
4. 0W20 Pennzoil Platinum, Pure Plus Technology, made from Natural Gas, API SN, synthetic
(silver bottle with blue vertical stripe on the label) = 92,504 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 275*F
.
.
5. 0W20 Castrol Edge, Fluid Titanium Technology, API SN, dexos 1 approved, synthetic
(black bottle) = 90,745 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
.
6. 0W20 Valvoline SynPower, API SN, synthetic = 89,556 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
.
7. 0W20 Mobil 1 Advance Fuel Economy, API SN, dexos 1 approved, synthetic = 79,612 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
.
8. 0W20 Kendall GT-1, with liquid Titanium, API SN, synthetic = 71,385 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 260*F


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The mechanic probably saw mobil1 0w-20 “Recommended for most Honda and Toyota” . Another misleading mobil1 advertisement that means nothing.
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Old 01-04-2019, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by OliveBread
If you want to get technical about it according to these measurements.

Higher film strength means less chances of metal-to-metal contact between moving parts, so less engine wear.
The HIGHER the psi value, the BETTER the Wear Protection.

1. 0W20 Quaker State Ultimate Durability, API SN, synthetic (gold bottle) = 124,393 psi
Its onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
.
2. 0W20 Toyota Motor Oil, API SN, synthetic = 101,460 psi
Its onset of Thermal Breakdown = 255*F
.
.
3. 0W20 Mobil 1 Extended Performance, API SN, dexos 1 approved, synthetic = 100,229 psi
Its onset of Thermal Breakdown = 265*F
.
.
4. 0W20 Pennzoil Platinum, Pure Plus Technology, made from Natural Gas, API SN, synthetic
(silver bottle with blue vertical stripe on the label) = 92,504 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 275*F
.
.
5. 0W20 Castrol Edge, Fluid Titanium Technology, API SN, dexos 1 approved, synthetic
(black bottle) = 90,745 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
.
6. 0W20 Valvoline SynPower, API SN, synthetic = 89,556 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
.
7. 0W20 Mobil 1 Advance Fuel Economy, API SN, dexos 1 approved, synthetic = 79,612 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
.
8. 0W20 Kendall GT-1, with liquid Titanium, API SN, synthetic = 71,385 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 260*F



Oh wow, this is an amazing info for all of us, thanks for this and all the info from you guys, now I know where I stand..
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Originally Posted by OliveBread
If you want to get technical about it according to these measurements.

Higher film strength means less chances of metal-to-metal contact between moving parts, so less engine wear.
The HIGHER the psi value, the BETTER the Wear Protection.

1. 0W20 Quaker State Ultimate Durability, API SN, synthetic (gold bottle) = 124,393 psi
Its onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
.
2. 0W20 Toyota Motor Oil, API SN, synthetic = 101,460 psi
Its onset of Thermal Breakdown = 255*F
.
.
3. 0W20 Mobil 1 Extended Performance, API SN, dexos 1 approved, synthetic = 100,229 psi
Its onset of Thermal Breakdown = 265*F
.
.
4. 0W20 Pennzoil Platinum, Pure Plus Technology, made from Natural Gas, API SN, synthetic
(silver bottle with blue vertical stripe on the label) = 92,504 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 275*F
.
.
5. 0W20 Castrol Edge, Fluid Titanium Technology, API SN, dexos 1 approved, synthetic
(black bottle) = 90,745 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
.
6. 0W20 Valvoline SynPower, API SN, synthetic = 89,556 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
.
7. 0W20 Mobil 1 Advance Fuel Economy, API SN, dexos 1 approved, synthetic = 79,612 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
.
8. 0W20 Kendall GT-1, with liquid Titanium, API SN, synthetic = 71,385 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 260*F


This is great info if you're on a race track for 15-20 minutes per session. Engine oil (especially 0w20) will break down when oil temps are high. This does not really apply to folks who drive an RDX and folks who 'full throttle' it here and there. Just my opinion. What do you guys think?
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Most people can use cheapest possible 0w-20 and still be fine.
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Originally Posted by jesser916
This is great info if you're on a race track for 15-20 minutes per session. Engine oil (especially 0w20) will break down when oil temps are high. This does not really apply to folks who drive an RDX and folks who 'full throttle' it here and there. Just my opinion. What do you guys think?
I know "conventional wisdom" says "oil breaks down at high temperatures, however, such wisdom applies less and less as the quality of the base oil goes up. The thing about 0W-20 is the spec requires a very high quality base oil (regardless of which group is used), and it breaks down to a far lesser degree than oils such as 5W-30 (which typically uses a fairly low quality base oil).
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Originally Posted by OliveBread
If you want to get technical about it according to these measurements.

Higher film strength means less chances of metal-to-metal contact between moving parts, so less engine wear.
The HIGHER the psi value, the BETTER the Wear Protection.

1. 0W20 Quaker State Ultimate Durability, API SN, synthetic (gold bottle) = 124,393 psi
Its onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
.
2. 0W20 Toyota Motor Oil, API SN, synthetic = 101,460 psi
Its onset of Thermal Breakdown = 255*F
.
.
3. 0W20 Mobil 1 Extended Performance, API SN, dexos 1 approved, synthetic = 100,229 psi
Its onset of Thermal Breakdown = 265*F
.
.
4. 0W20 Pennzoil Platinum, Pure Plus Technology, made from Natural Gas, API SN, synthetic
(silver bottle with blue vertical stripe on the label) = 92,504 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 275*F
.
.
5. 0W20 Castrol Edge, Fluid Titanium Technology, API SN, dexos 1 approved, synthetic
(black bottle) = 90,745 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
.
6. 0W20 Valvoline SynPower, API SN, synthetic = 89,556 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
.
7. 0W20 Mobil 1 Advance Fuel Economy, API SN, dexos 1 approved, synthetic = 79,612 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 270*F
.
.
8. 0W20 Kendall GT-1, with liquid Titanium, API SN, synthetic = 71,385 psi
It’s onset of Thermal Breakdown = 260*F


Looks like you got that info from 540 Rat's website. That testing method is invalid for motor oil. Its more for gear oils. The one arm bandit test is not what happens in your engine. The funniest part is that he says he is a mechanical engineer! Heck its been shown that a shampoo like Head & Shoulders does better than any single oil. I guess we can just put H&S in our engines then!
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