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Old 09-03-2018, 08:41 PM
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Buy now or wait?

I think I’ve decided to go with the RDX, but I’m curious what people recommend for when to purchase (it’s been a while since I bought a new car)? I’m in no rush, as it is I’m sad to give up my A4 and stick shift. Right now I have a $42k price on a AWD Tech in the Boston area - do people think I can do much better than that anytime soon?
Old 09-03-2018, 09:21 PM
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I would wait for the first year gremlins to be worked out. Not that the RDX has anymore gremlins than any other first year models, but it is still a first year model of a complete redesign from top to bottom.
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If I was you, I would have waited until end of this year. 6 months for Acura to fix some of the minor issues that buyers are complaining.

Good luck and great choice whenever you proceed
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I feel the same way, I have a 2009 tsx, runs great, I’m ready to upgrade but I’m waiting till next year...get the first year bugs out.
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I am glad I didn't wait. I have a great vehicle, great technology... just a POV from an accused fanboy
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Does everything work okay though?
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I’m kinda in the same situation as you where I want the ASPEC AWD model but my local dealership is only willing to go $1000 below MSRP. I’ll wait until the end of the year to hopefully get 10% off.
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Everything I have used does. Maybe it's the learning curve, maybe it's not using all systems or every possible thing but I am happy with my purchase so far. I look forw3ard to driving it daily, that is all I am saying.
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I've had mine since the last week of July and the only issue so far is that on one trip the clock was an hour off and the MPH indicator wasn't working. Other than that no bugs whatsoever.
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Buy now, live for the day. Especially since its not my money
Old 09-05-2018, 10:22 AM
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If a major design problem was surfacing, I would wait. But I don't see that in this forum or on my own 2019 Advance model. What I do see on the forum are sporadic problems coming from perhaps the assembly line or a bad component. Then there are the software bugs that seem to affect mostly the infotainment system and probably most owners have seen at least a couple of them. These apparently made it through pre-availability testing and will be fixed as they are uncovered and tested. In my opinion there will be no magic line between the 2019 and the 2020 models on this since at 2020 availability time a timely software maintained 2019 and the 2020 will probably be close to the same software code levels. Maybe it depends on if you are happy driving your current vehicle for another year as part of the decision process to buy now or wait. Over the near future I am confident that Acura will commit resources to take care of this since they are touting this design as the base for future vehicles across their model lineup..
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The longer you wait, the more the bugs get worked out. But also, the more of a chance your A4 might give you trouble, and the longer you are waiting before you get what the RDX has that makes you want it.

Nobody knows that balance but you.
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Personally I'm not in a rush so I'm waiting until late Spring, early Summer next year. I purchased my TLX right after it launched in September 2014 and am still chapped that I just didn't wait a few more months to get a deeper discount plus to let some of the gremlins (the tranny) get worked out. If you can wait I would imo, the money saved could go to another purchase:-). On a side note, I've decided to go with the Modern Steel with the red leather A-Spec w.SH-AWD. Based on the inventory I've seen so far, finding that specific combo is like trying to find Bigfoot. Hrrmpphh...
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I say you wait. There's always going to be newer better technology that comes out.
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
I say you wait. There's always going to be newer better technology that comes out.
There will always be newer and better technologies coming down the road. 2020 will be better than 2019, 2021 will be better than 2020, 2030 will be better than all of them. Wait forever to make sure you get the absolute best.
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Don't Wait

I really enjoy the feeling of driving a vehicle that isn't the twin of any other vehicle I see on the road. The last two vehicles I purchased for myself were a 2004 Pacifica and a 2013 Fusion Hybrid in the same month they were released. In each case it was over six months before I saw another vehicle

like them in my immediate area. I'm getting the same feeling with the RDX we purchased over three weeks ago. We haven't encountered any important issues yet, although I wish the transmission was a little smoother at slower speeds. It is excellent, however, when accelerating a little faster than I normally would.
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I have yet to see another '19 RDX on the road.
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Originally Posted by vvlien
I’m kinda in the same situation as you where I want the ASPEC AWD model but my local dealership is only willing to go $1000 below MSRP. I’ll wait until the end of the year to hopefully get 10% off.
Does anybody think it’s at all likely this will be 10% at the end of this year? I haven’t purchased enough cars to know. I’m not going to wait for the 2020, but can wait a few more months, especially since Audi just settled a class action lawsuit that will cover the ticking time tomb that is my timing chain.
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Originally Posted by Colin Whooten


Does anybody think it’s at all likely this will be 10% at the end of this year? I haven’t purchased enough cars to know. I’m not going to wait for the 2020, but can wait a few more months, especially since Audi just settled a class action lawsuit that will cover the ticking time tomb that is my timing chain.
10%! Discount, not likely,
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Originally Posted by Colin Whooten


Does anybody think it’s at all likely this will be 10% at the end of this year? I haven’t purchased enough cars to know. I’m not going to wait for the 2020, but can wait a few more months, especially since Audi just settled a class action lawsuit that will cover the ticking time tomb that is my timing chain.
I do think you will get close to 10% off MSRP. You should be able to get about $1500 under invoice by years end. So, on an FWD Advance that has an MSRP of about $46,800, and invoice of around $44,200, that would be about 10%
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Last week, I drove a new RDX advance 120 miles doing a dealer transfer. I immediately liked it very much, except for the price, over $45K. I have had a bunch of Honda CRVs since around 2000. Unlike Honda right now, the Acura dealers wont even really talk discount at present in my checking. On CRV, you can get $1500 plus off on an EX-L. I did a dealer trade on a CR-V today and was talking with the dealer person at the other end of my swap. Told him i liked the new RDX, he then said to me, get a CRV and save $10k(Actually more in reality). So, I left there and all the way back, I was thinking, OK, I am in a new CRV getting over 35 mpg on regular gas, and this one has nearly everything on it that a RDX has, Sure it aint as refined as the RDX, but then there is the savings in gas, taxes, and initial cost. The CRV does have a real spare tire in it...a plus. I told one Acura dealer, who has called me 4 times trying to sell me a RDX, that I have never paid MSRP for any car and dont plan to start now. He would not even give me a price! It is NOT that i dont have the money, whatever I buy will be a check, no financing. But, have never paid over $30 or so K for a car. I think I will wait til they get all the bugs fixed, and during that time, there are new models of other cars coming out and i want to try some of them too. Maybe by then, the RDX production will catch up with demand and we can get a break on the price.
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Last week, I drove a new RDX advance 120 miles doing a dealer transfer. I immediately liked it very much, except for the price, over $45K. I have had a bunch of Honda CRVs since around 2000. Unlike Honda right now, the Acura dealers wont even really talk discount at present in my checking. On CRV, you can get $1500 plus off on an EX-L. I did a dealer trade on a CR-V today and was talking with the dealer person at the other end of my swap. Told him i liked the new RDX, he then said to me, get a CRV and save $10k(Actually more in reality). So, I left there and all the way back, I was thinking, OK, I am in a new CRV getting over 35 mpg on regular gas, and this one has nearly everything on it that a RDX has, Sure it aint as refined as the RDX, but then there is the savings in gas, taxes, and initial cost. The CRV does have a real spare tire in it...a plus. I told one Acura dealer, who has called me 4 times trying to sell me a RDX, that I have never paid MSRP for any car and dont plan to start now. He would not even give me a price! It is NOT that i dont have the money, whatever I buy will be a check, no financing. But, have never paid over $30 or so K for a car. I think I will wait til they get all the bugs fixed, and during that time, there are new models of other cars coming out and i want to try some of them too. Maybe by then, the RDX production will catch up with demand and we can get a break on the price.
There is a spare tire in the advance and tech trim.
I think you get what you pay for between the RDX and CRV. To me the RDX looks better, more comfortable, has more power, and also bunch of extra features not in the CRV. RDX does use more gas because there's more power, technically you can use regular gas, premium is only recommended. The biggest turn off for the CRV for me is the CVT. I had a 2017 Civic with CVT, while it is a very good CVT, it just didn't feel right. It's not something I enjoy driving. If the CRV satisfy all your need there really is no reason to spend the extra 10K+ on an RDX. It is really up to you to decide if the RDX is worth the extra 10k. I think the RDX is still a good value.
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The CRV also suffers from the 1.5T oil dilution issue which is not good!
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I have yet to see another '19 RDX on the road.
I pulled up to an intersection the other day and a twin to mine pulled up beside me. The driver was a little old Indian lady. She took off from the light like a bat out of hell. I think she enjoys her RDX too!
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...She took off from the light like a bat out of hell. I think she enjoys her RDX too!
I can relate to that. If I'm first in line at the light there aren't many times when someone is ahead of me when it turns green. There is a chance this will change as the 'newness' of the RDX wears off - maybe.

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On CRV, you can get $1500 plus off on an EX-L. .....get a CRV and save $10k(Actually more in reality)........ I told one Acura dealer, who has called me 4 times trying to sell me a RDX, that I have never paid MSRP for any car and dont plan to start now.
I came from a 2015 CRV, or CR-Vibrator as I called it. Maybe the 2018s are better, but for me there’s no comparison. And I don’t get this fixation with a discount off MSRP. If Acura priced like BMW ar $55k but offered a $5k discount, it seems like everyone would be happy at $50k, yet will refuse to pay $48.5k list for an Advance.
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Originally Posted by DrWoo
...And I don’t get this fixation with a discount off MSRP. If Acura priced like BMW ar $55k but offered a $5k discount, it seems like everyone would be happy at $50k, yet will refuse to pay $48.5k list for an Advance.
Ain't that the truth? Seems like a lot of people fail to consider what they're getting for what they're paying.
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My daughter has a CR-V. Other than size and general utility, there is just no comparison.

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As long as it doesn’t have a 1.5T engine.........
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The last gen RDX was absolutely trash, and I personally called it a dressed up CRV with a V6, even though the CRV had features not even available on the RDX like a heated steering wheel. However it's absolutely no comparison between this generation RDX and CRV IMO. You definitely get what you pay for here.
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The last gen RDX was absolutely trash, and I personally called it a dressed up CRV with a V6, even though the CRV had features not even available on the RDX like a heated steering wheel. However it's absolutely no comparison between this generation RDX and CRV IMO. You definitely get what you pay for here.
I wouldn't go as far as to say that the previous generation was trash but, when I went to buy a 2016 RDX, I ended up with a SH-AWD TLX instead due to my perception of quality feel.
The new generation is a big step forward IMO.

Just do it.
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Waiting a few more months will save you a few bucks. I was hoping to see the introduction of some incentives, or at least a better money factor on the leases, come Sept. 5 but no dice - same as pre-Sept. 5 and set to continue through the end of Oct. Seems likely that if Honda/Acura is holding the line then dealers won't be in much of a position (due to restrained inventory) to do much better either at least on the most popular trims.

I was going to wait too, but my lease is up on my TLX and nothing else currently in the Acura stable is of interest. I was totally going BMW x3 until I played with an '19 RDX. So, I'm now the very happy driver of a 2019 RDX AWD Advance. I got some discount on top of the $1k loyalty incentive but not much.... definitely the closest to MSRP I've ever paid for a car and hope to never repeat. No gremlins so far but I'm only a few hundred miles in...

If you're ready to ditch the Audi I would consider going for it now. The likely-hood of significantly larger discounts just isn't looking too promising in the near-term or even by year end.
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Originally Posted by RDX10
The last gen RDX was absolutely trash, and I personally called it a dressed up CRV with a V6, even though the CRV had features not even available on the RDX like a heated steering wheel. However it's absolutely no comparison between this generation RDX and CRV IMO. You definitely get what you pay for here.
While that is your option the previous gen RDX was caught in Acura's trying to cut cost, but I found my wife's 16 RDX AWD Advance to be a solid car and was a great value. I personally find it was quieter inside than her 19 RDX Advance. The 3G is more refined and feels a substantial step better, but the 2G was a strong seller because it filled a niche spot in the market at a great price.
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There is a spare tire in the advance and tech trim.
I think you get what you pay for between the RDX and CRV. To me the RDX looks better, more comfortable, has more power, and also bunch of extra features not in the CRV. RDX does use more gas because there's more power, technically you can use regular gas, premium is only recommended. The biggest turn off for the CRV for me is the CVT. I had a 2017 Civic with CVT, while it is a very good CVT, it just didn't feel right. It's not something I enjoy driving. If the CRV satisfy all your need there really is no reason to spend the extra 10K+ on an RDX. It is really up to you to decide if the RDX is worth the extra 10k. I think the RDX is still a good value.
I agree with you about the crv cvt, I am not crazy about the CVT, but it works and works well and I got used to it on my currently owned 15 crv. It is actually quite smooth, but some people dont like it for the very same reason some do like it. Some are not gonna be Ok with all the gear changing of the 10 speed, I actually like the 6 speed transmission in the new Pilots, better than the 9 speed( I think they are) on the Touring and up Pilot. Too many gears, let alone ten. Even the RDX transmission jumps across up to four gears or something like that when it can be done. I also find in the new Pilots, that they seem to get better mileage with the 6 speed vs the 9 speed. I, also like a shift handle rather than the 50s style push buttons on the RDX and 9 speed Pilot. Takes more time to shift it to reverse when backing, you have to look at the buttons to press the right one, where you dont have to be looking with as much with the shift handle.
Someone else mentioned the oil dilution problem on 1.5 Turbo's. I asked my svc manager who has no reason to lie to me and he said that he has had one case on a turbo Civic, guy brought it in with 30K on it, with the engine and turbo blown (turbo parts destroyed the engine). Turned out he never changed the oil! The guy ended up forking out $7k to get it fixed as he was denied warranty and I dont blame Honda for that. The thing that makes me pause about a Turbo car, is that had it been a regular car, one could have driven it 30k without oil change and it would have never blown up most likely. Now I would not go without an oil change on any car, but would be super worried if I bought a used one as the first owner may not have serviced it correctly. I have changed my on oil and filter in the pass, so it would never show up on the online carfax or dealer record as having the oil changed. I would have to get a certified used one if buying a used one for the warranty. And as for the 2.0 turbo, who says that they are not susceptible to the same oil dilution? There are not enough of them out there to know yet. Only the accord and Type R have them so far, now the RDX. The longer I wait, the more I am thinking a non-turbo vehicle, but I know, that this is the future. My son told me the answer is to lease one, and then you are relieved from getting stuck with a problem down the road, and he said you can sometimes get a better deal on a lease. I have never tried a lease, but I rarely keep a car passed three years, so it could work for me, except in the case of my Tacoma. Bought it in 2014...MSRP..$31 k, paid $28K out the door, current Kelly Bluebook value on trade in....$ 25k-26K, see them on lots priced at more than I originally paid for it. Got to be the best resale of any common vehicle out there! More i think about the RDX, more inclined to wait or get a V6 vehicle before they are gone. As far as paying list because other comparable brands are more, that makes no matter to me, I dont even look at the other brands priced that high to start with and I expect a break on the MSRP from any of them. Always have, Some one has to get a break with all you folks paying list,and that is me! LOL!
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The 1.5T engine oil dilution problem is wide spread and very well known. Overseas, there is actually a stop sale on CRV's and Civics with this engine until Honda can come up with a plan on how to handle. It's all over the CRV and Civic forums and TONS of folks are VERY unhappy! Honda USA and Honda Canada actually published a letter confirming the issues to their dealer base. I am sure your service manager is a real gem
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While that is your option the previous gen RDX was caught in Acura's trying to cut cost, but I found my wife's 16 RDX AWD Advance to be a solid car and was a great value. I personally find it was quieter inside than her 19 RDX Advance. The 3G is more refined and feels a substantial step better, but the 2G was a strong seller because it filled a niche spot in the market at a great price.
I own a 2017 RDX and what's his name (whom I had already put on "ignore" a couple of weeks ago) saying it's "absolute trash" is the one of the stupidest thing I've heard anyone say. What a drama queen. It's a very nice car and would've been quite happy driving it a few more years (it's paid off) except for the 2019 coming out with the new bells and whistles (and looks) that captured my attention.

I understand everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, but good grief..."absolute trash?" I can think of terrible cars out there...the 2G RDX is NOT one of them, as evidenced by it sales numbers (segment leader) and "buy" recommendations from within the auto press. And, oh, by the way -- this "trash" car is hovering around $30K in resale value.
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2020 RDX would certain have some tweaks to software bugs, and perhaps it would save you few extra visits to the dealer to get TSBs done. But you have to wait 1 year, thats not cool
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Originally Posted by catbert430
I wouldn't go as far as to say that the previous generation was trash but, when I went to buy a 2016 RDX, I ended up with a SH-AWD TLX instead due to my perception of quality feel.
The new generation is a big step forward IMO.

Just do it.
It's just my opinion, I feel that there were plenty of better options for the price and the driving dynamics were almost scary to me. It's cheaply built and incredibly boring and lacking many features available on normal models. But you're definitely free to feel otherwise.

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While that is your option the previous gen RDX was caught in Acura's trying to cut cost, but I found my wife's 16 RDX AWD Advance to be a solid car and was a great value. I personally find it was quieter inside than her 19 RDX Advance. The 3G is more refined and feels a substantial step better, but the 2G was a strong seller because it filled a niche spot in the market at a great price.
The 2G got caught in a lot of obvious cost cutting but it wasn't just the poor interior quality that is the issue for me, it was the drivetrain, driving dynamics, feature content, price to feature ratio, and styling. As stated above, there were many options to me that were better than it for cheaper prices.

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I own a 2017 RDX and what's his name (whom I had already put on "ignore" a couple of weeks ago) saying it's "absolute trash" is the one of the stupidest thing I've heard anyone say. What a drama queen. It's a very nice car and would've been quite happy driving it a few more years (it's paid off) except for the 2019 coming out with the new bells and whistles (and looks) that captured my attention.

I understand everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, but good grief..."absolute trash?" I can think of terrible cars out there...the 2G RDX is NOT one of them, as evidenced by it sales numbers (segment leader) and "buy" recommendations from within the auto press. And, oh, by the way -- this "trash" car is hovering around $30K in resale value.
Hey once you've got your panties unknotted, you can get your head out of your ass too. You like it, cool good for you, would you like a cookie? And aww sweetie, you blocked me? I'm so hurt, grow up and stop whining like a man child. This big scary thing called the internet is full of people with different opinions. I know terrifying concept for you to grasp but maybe someday you will
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TacoBello (09-07-2018)
Old 09-07-2018, 03:02 AM
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Im not choosing sides as I haven’t seen the original post(s) regarding it, but, suffice to say, I found this pretty funny to read
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Old 09-07-2018, 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by TacoBello


Im not choosing sides as I haven’t seen the original post(s) regarding it, but, suffice to say, I found this pretty funny to read
I honestly don't even know what she's talking about, I wasn't even on here much the past few months but apparently she can't handle being told her car is not a good one. I think it hurt her feelings.

The 1G RDX is one of my all time favorite cars and I read a lot of shit about how ugly it is and how dated it is and honestly I have to agree. It's pretty ugly, but it doesn't make me upset to read that people don't like it.


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