Brief Reactions from a New Owner
06-14-2018, 09:24 AM
#41
Team Owner
As was stated earlier:
Engine start/stop doesn’t activate unless you’ve exceeded a certain speed immediately prior to bringing a car to a halt. It won’t happen in a parallel parking situation.
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MTD (06-14-2018)
06-14-2018, 10:20 AM
#43
06-14-2018, 11:11 AM
#45
Lost in translation
So much back & forth on this 'disable stop-start,' I do not recall if anybody said the disable feature works only with the RDX in park.
Can you be on your merry way and reach over and defeat the feature? Or, re-enable it if desired?
Also, I imagine the "opening the driver's door will throw the tranny into park" function will not occur with the car moving.
Thinking how many times in my life it became necessary for me to open and close the door while in motion.
Can you be on your merry way and reach over and defeat the feature? Or, re-enable it if desired?
Also, I imagine the "opening the driver's door will throw the tranny into park" function will not occur with the car moving.
Thinking how many times in my life it became necessary for me to open and close the door while in motion.
06-14-2018, 01:02 PM
#47
So much back & forth on this 'disable stop-start,' I do not recall if anybody said the disable feature works only with the RDX in park.
Can you be on your merry way and reach over and defeat the feature? Or, re-enable it if desired?
Also, I imagine the "opening the driver's door will throw the tranny into park" function will not occur with the car moving.
Thinking how many times in my life it became necessary for me to open and close the door while in motion.
Can you be on your merry way and reach over and defeat the feature? Or, re-enable it if desired?
Also, I imagine the "opening the driver's door will throw the tranny into park" function will not occur with the car moving.
Thinking how many times in my life it became necessary for me to open and close the door while in motion.
A number of the features are controlled electronically and can be toggled while the vehicle is in motion, such as auto idle stop (on/off), D/S (Drive/Sequential), and brake hold (on/off).
06-14-2018, 01:06 PM
#48
06-14-2018, 02:04 PM
#49
Volvo Defector
Accord07........I love stick shift cars. I own a 6 speed manual Porsche Boxster.
Having said that, the idea of a start/stop system isn't for me. I can just imagine trying to parallel park where one has to move back and forth to maneuver into the spot and each time coming to a full stop each time....does that mean the engine will stop and start each time I move back and forth?.........IF so, a total PITA. I really wanted to like this SUV but spending years pressing a defeat button each time I drive is something I'd get tired of fast.
Having said that, the idea of a start/stop system isn't for me. I can just imagine trying to parallel park where one has to move back and forth to maneuver into the spot and each time coming to a full stop each time....does that mean the engine will stop and start each time I move back and forth?.........IF so, a total PITA. I really wanted to like this SUV but spending years pressing a defeat button each time I drive is something I'd get tired of fast.
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robuckj (06-15-2018)
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robuckj (06-15-2018)
06-14-2018, 02:17 PM
#51
Does anyone else's car shake quite a bit when waking up from the start/stop tech? This is first time I've had a car or rode in one that has this feature and it can be quite annoying... I've thought someone pushed my car or what not on a few occasions.
06-14-2018, 02:19 PM
#52
So much back & forth on this 'disable stop-start,' I do not recall if anybody said the disable feature works only with the RDX in park.
Can you be on your merry way and reach over and defeat the feature? Or, re-enable it if desired?
Also, I imagine the "opening the driver's door will throw the tranny into park" function will not occur with the car moving.
Thinking how many times in my life it became necessary for me to open and close the door while in motion.
Can you be on your merry way and reach over and defeat the feature? Or, re-enable it if desired?
Also, I imagine the "opening the driver's door will throw the tranny into park" function will not occur with the car moving.
Thinking how many times in my life it became necessary for me to open and close the door while in motion.
06-14-2018, 09:04 PM
#53
06-14-2018, 09:25 PM
#54
Unfortunately that's part of the deal, every engine start will come with some vibrations, not any worse or better than when you start the engine "normally".
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robuckj (06-16-2018)
06-14-2018, 09:52 PM
#55
Yes, I know some are very much against the buttons. It didn't take me long to get used to it. Besides, without mechanical linkage between the shifter and actual gears, buttons actually make sense to me. Except when I intend to leave the engine idling, or when my kids are using a Roku stick to stream video (stopping the engine stops USB ports in the back as well, the Roku stick is powered by one of them, not all streaming apps deal with a sudden loss of power well and may not resume at the correct location on the next run); the data-capable USB port in the console, however, is directly connected to the head unit and remains on until the driver door is opened), I usually hit the engine start/stop button directly when I park my van, because hitting P first is just a formality now and the shifter will go to P automatically.
06-15-2018, 07:45 AM
#57
Advanced
Well......sorry folks but the system that makes the start/stop system work is sounding more and more complex with each reply. There's a button to disable it each time you get in to drive, brake peddle pressure can affect when the system works, outside temps can affect how it works, stop and go traffic can affect the system, better yet I can push the D/S 3 times and it will disable it BUT then only use 8 gears not all 10 etc etc......REALLY???.......A system that "variable" is bound to present problems 3-4-5+ years down the road. It's NOT about "pressing buttons", its about designing a complex system to save a few sips of fuel to satisfy the EPA......AND by the way the new RDX gets only fair fuel economy ratings at best. And I haven't even mentioned the 2019 RDX has the lowest in class towing capacity (1,500 lbs)....but that's a discussion for another thread.
06-15-2018, 08:54 AM
#58
Well......sorry folks but the system that makes the start/stop system work is sounding more and more complex with each reply. There's a button to disable it each time you get in to drive, brake peddle pressure can affect when the system works, outside temps can affect how it works, stop and go traffic can affect the system, better yet I can push the D/S 3 times and it will disable it BUT then only use 8 gears not all 10 etc etc......REALLY???.......A system that "variable" is bound to present problems 3-4-5+ years down the road. It's NOT about "pressing buttons", its about designing a complex system to save a few sips of fuel to satisfy the EPA......AND by the way the new RDX gets only fair fuel economy ratings at best. And I haven't even mentioned the 2019 RDX has the lowest in class towing capacity (1,500 lbs)....but that's a discussion for another thread.
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TacoBello (06-15-2018)
06-15-2018, 09:47 AM
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06-15-2018, 10:06 AM
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06-15-2018, 10:37 AM
#61
2013 RDX tech Amber
I have had start stop in my BMW for last 3 years lease ends this August. After driving the Acura I found its start stop to be much less intrusive and barely noticiable compared to the BMW. To those that are coming from a car without it I know it can be strange at first but after a month of driving you get used to it.
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DWG (06-15-2018)
06-15-2018, 10:41 AM
#62
Lost in translation
Yes, I know some are very much against the buttons. It didn't take me long to get used to it. Besides, without mechanical linkage between the shifter and actual gears, buttons actually make sense to me. Except when I intend to leave the engine idling, or when my kids are using a Roku stick to stream video (stopping the engine stops USB ports in the back as well, the Roku stick is powered by one of them, not all streaming apps deal with a sudden loss of power well and may not resume at the correct location on the next run); the data-capable USB port in the console, however, is directly connected to the head unit and remains on until the driver door is opened), I usually hit the engine start/stop button directly when I park my van, because hitting P first is just a formality now and the shifter will go to P automatically.
06-15-2018, 10:44 AM
#63
Wondering if I'm the only one who does this in my '14: with trans out of park, press off button to shutoff engine, then put trans into park. This keeps my RDX in accessory mode, uninterrupted. I generally do this while listening to music or talking on my phone via Bluetooth thru the car's speakers. It avoids disconnecting. It'd be swell if the '19 allows this.
06-15-2018, 11:40 AM
#64
I never got used to stop/start. Fortunately, I was able to have the dealer disable it in my BMW. (Not permanently, but it was changed to remember the last setting at restart. That's how they should ALL function.) ASS (yep, I said it) doesn't bother my wife in her car now that she's used to it, but I still turn it off on the rare occasion I drive her car. At least Acura allows you to turn it off. Some do not, or like Volvo make you go to far into the infotainment system's menu to bother.
One ASS scenario that I find potentially dangerous goes like this: driver pulls into garage, talking on the phone or listening to their favorite tune. The car shuts off when he/she comes to a stop, but otherwise distracted, the driver doesn't put the car in park or turn off the ignition. When the song or phone conversation finishes a minute or two later, he/she lifts her foot off the brake, and the car fires up and leaps forward. Yes, it's human error, but it's an easy error to make. Cars with collision-avoidance should prevent the car from driving into the kitchen, but even in luxury cars collision-avoidance is far from a standard feature.
One ASS scenario that I find potentially dangerous goes like this: driver pulls into garage, talking on the phone or listening to their favorite tune. The car shuts off when he/she comes to a stop, but otherwise distracted, the driver doesn't put the car in park or turn off the ignition. When the song or phone conversation finishes a minute or two later, he/she lifts her foot off the brake, and the car fires up and leaps forward. Yes, it's human error, but it's an easy error to make. Cars with collision-avoidance should prevent the car from driving into the kitchen, but even in luxury cars collision-avoidance is far from a standard feature.
06-15-2018, 02:03 PM
#65
Wondering if I'm the only one who does this in my '14: with trans out of park, press off button to shutoff engine, then put trans into park. This keeps my RDX in accessory mode, uninterrupted. I generally do this while listening to music or talking on my phone via Bluetooth thru the car's speakers. It avoids disconnecting. It'd be swell if the '19 allows this.
06-15-2018, 04:38 PM
#66
Team Owner
Well......sorry folks but the system that makes the start/stop system work is sounding more and more complex with each reply. There's a button to disable it each time you get in to drive, brake peddle pressure can affect when the system works, outside temps can affect how it works, stop and go traffic can affect the system, better yet I can push the D/S 3 times and it will disable it BUT then only use 8 gears not all 10 etc etc......REALLY???.......A system that "variable" is bound to present problems 3-4-5+ years down the road. It's NOT about "pressing buttons", its about designing a complex system to save a few sips of fuel to satisfy the EPA......AND by the way the new RDX gets only fair fuel economy ratings at best. And I haven't even mentioned the 2019 RDX has the lowest in class towing capacity (1,500 lbs)....but that's a discussion for another thread.
06-15-2018, 05:16 PM
#67
Well......sorry folks but the system that makes the start/stop system work is sounding more and more complex with each reply. There's a button to disable it each time you get in to drive, brake peddle pressure can affect when the system works, outside temps can affect how it works, stop and go traffic can affect the system, better yet I can push the D/S 3 times and it will disable it BUT then only use 8 gears not all 10 etc etc......REALLY???.......A system that "variable" is bound to present problems 3-4-5+ years down the road. It's NOT about "pressing buttons", its about designing a complex system to save a few sips of fuel to satisfy the EPA......AND by the way the new RDX gets only fair fuel economy ratings at best. And I haven't even mentioned the 2019 RDX has the lowest in class towing capacity (1,500 lbs)....but that's a discussion for another thread.
Surely you dont think Acura has created something unique here do you. Everything they have on this 2019 RDX has been used for nearly 10 years elsewhere. 4 of my cars all the features that the 2019 Acura RDX has finally decided to implement. Most manufactures are having limited issues if any with them now that these features have been around so long. Can anyone name a feature that isnt or hasnt been in use for years now? I too had been an analog car guy but in order to purchase newer cars, these features were standard in all of my more recent purchases so I had to adjust to them. Spend a day or two with the RDX or any other newer vehicle and you will get used to the features. If one doersnt like then keep the vehicle you have as more vehicles will have more of these features each year.
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06-15-2018, 05:28 PM
#68
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Surely you dont think Acura has created something unique here do you. Everything they have on this 2019 RDX has been used for nearly 10 years elsewhere. 4 of my cars all the features that the 2019 Acura RDX has finally decided to implement. Most manufactures are having limited issues if any with them now that these features have been around so long. Can anyone name a feature that isnt or hasnt been in use for years now? I too had been an analog car guy but in order to purchase newer cars, these features were standard in all of my more recent purchases so I had to adjust to them. Spend a day or two with the RDX or any other newer vehicle and you will get used to the features. If one doersnt like then keep the vehicle you have as more vehicles will have more of these features each year.
Right.
The problem with all these modern cars is that they are so modern. Whatever happened to sticking a screwdriver into the butterflies and pouring Gumout into the carb? Then you could say to your buds, “lookit that blue shit coming out! This stuff really works.” And then have a couple or few more beers.
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06-15-2018, 06:15 PM
#69
Right.
The problem with all these modern cars is that they are so modern. Whatever happened to sticking a screwdriver into the butterflies and pouring Gumout into the carb? Then you could say to your buds, “lookit that blue shit coming out! This stuff really works.” And then have a couple or few more beers.
When I bought a 1992 Civic, I remember that one of the reasons that I chose it over the Accord was that the Civic was fuel injected, while the Accord still had a carb.
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06-15-2018, 06:18 PM
#70
Wondering if I'm the only one who does this in my '14: with trans out of park, press off button to shutoff engine, then put trans into park. This keeps my RDX in accessory mode, uninterrupted. I generally do this while listening to music or talking on my phone via Bluetooth thru the car's speakers. It avoids disconnecting. It'd be swell if the '19 allows this.
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06-15-2018, 06:24 PM
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Carburators ruled! Except when they did not, which was most of the time. I remember helping my father rebuild the carb in his 1970 Chevy station wagon, which had a 454 engine, with 390 hp.
When I bought a 1992 Civic, I remember that one of the reasons that I chose it over the Accord was that the Civic was fuel injected, while the Accord still had a carb.
When I bought a 1992 Civic, I remember that one of the reasons that I chose it over the Accord was that the Civic was fuel injected, while the Accord still had a carb.
That 454 was a monster. 7.4 liters.
I bet the little, puny-assed 2.0 liter engine could give it conniptions.
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TacoBello (06-15-2018)
06-15-2018, 07:14 PM
#72
Team Owner
Fuel economy on a 7.4L engine? LOL!!
The puny 2.0T can give it a good run for its money... But only after a Hondata tune! Then the 454 might shit a little brick!
The puny 2.0T can give it a good run for its money... But only after a Hondata tune! Then the 454 might shit a little brick!
06-15-2018, 07:19 PM
#73
06-16-2018, 03:46 AM
#74
Actually, in my copy of the new RDX, the re-starts seem to be smoother than the initial start-ups (using the start button). Re-starts also seem quieter; but, that could be because they happen with a lot of other traffic noise all around, while initial starts are in an otherwise quiet garage or parking spot. I’ve got an old sound meter, somewhere, so maybe I can actually measure starts vs. re-starts, in decibels. Just for fun.
06-16-2018, 07:24 AM
#75
Burning Brakes
Probably not your imagination. In other forums where this same discussion is taking place the consensus seems to be that the S/S implementation insures that one cylinder is positioned at (near to?) the top of the compression stroke so that a good portion of the force to turn the engine over comes from firing that spark plug.
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robuckj (06-16-2018)
06-16-2018, 08:19 AM
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06-16-2018, 11:59 AM
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06-16-2018, 12:27 PM
#78
I just wanted to say ASS 😂
06-16-2018, 06:44 PM
#80
Suzuka Master
Just so you know, if you are in neutral, you have to push the brake to shift into either reverse of drive but can shift directly into park. For those that use automatic car washes...